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Author Topic: Replace your oven element Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-13-2018 06:32 PM                     Generally speaking, the breaker method is more expensive than a receptacle. A GFCI or AFCI recept. can protect all down-wind recepts on a branch. However, in the AFCI world and in NEC speak, an "outlet" is ANYTHING that outputs electricity (including light fixtures). A receptacle is a particular type of outlet. In general, NOW, all 120V circuits that are either used or CONTROLLED by the living space of a home (switches that control outside fixtures included) need to be protected by AFCI. Again, the idea is, if something in a wall is arcing, particularly something like a switch, you don't want that starting a fire in your house and you might not even be thinking that the controlling device (or its wiring) is the start of the fire. GFCI remains for wet (kitchen, bathrooms, anywhere there is a sink within 6-feet) and unfinished areas (garages, unfinished basements, outside).  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 05-13-2018 08:02 PM                        Not sure I get replacing an oven element like you would a UPS battery. Our oven has had the same elements that were in it when we bought the place... 33 years ago... and it was old then.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-13-2018 10:47 PM                        My mom's stove was about 40 years old when she replaced it about 6 years ago. The new one lasted 5 years. We bought a new stove when we got married almost 18 years ago. It still works fine. The house I lived in for about 15 years before we got married had an ancient stove that had to be from the 1940s or '50s....as far as I know, it's still in that house and working.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-14-2018 06:16 AM                     I guess back to the Original Topic. I've never had to replace an oven/stove element. In my parent's house the original stove/oven/range (Whatever you want to call it) lasted our entire multi-decade stay there without any elements being changed (that I'm aware of, at least). Now it was from the '60s, not modern stuff. Like Mark, we are all gas here so no elements to worry about.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-14-2018 07:33 AM                     Gas is not perfect either. The thermostat failed and left the oven burner on full and could not be turned off. Had to pull the stove away from the wall and turn of the gas valve behind the stove. Very scary as it cremated one batch of cookies beyond recognition.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-14-2018 11:16 AM                     quote: Kenneth Wuepper Very scary as it cremated one batch of cookies beyond recognition. I always set a timer, either on the stove or on my phone. Nothing ever gets burned.... I do this even when cooking on molten lava! Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-14-2018 11:25 AM                     In addition to the local gas shutoffs at each device, at the gas manifold where the distribution happens are individual shutoffs in addition to the master shutoff. So if something where to be really amiss, as you describe, one need not pull out the thing that has open flames to shut it off. Nothing is perfect but for heating things, I'll take gas over electricity any day.  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 05-14-2018 02:54 PM                     Gas can leak and can cause explosions, but gas can also easily be detected. Electricity can arc, short circuit, electrocute and overheat. In general anything that has a lot of (potential) energy running through needs some special care or else stuff has the tendency to go haywire. As long as we keep making electricity from mostly fossil fuels, I guess burning gas directly is still more environmental friendly than electricity if the end result should be just heat.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-14-2018 04:27 PM                     Whereas they are getting the efficiency of things like furnaces up to 97-98% efficient, it's pretty good at turning its BTUs into warmth. Electricity just is a controlled short circuit.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-15-2018 06:32 PM                        Gas cooks best. . . . period. That said, we converted to electric when I was 6. I had been cooking for 2 years. Electric has stayed with us over the years due to lack-of-gas from the utility company and a couple of homes. I am 69.9 years old now and likely will stay with electric unless I build a new house!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-15-2018 08:16 PM                        My wife and I are both lifetime electrical cookers (as is my mom) but we have two friends who swear gas is the shizz, so our stove is almost 20 years old so we're thinking of switching. I guess it depends on how much it would cost to run the gas line and such.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-15-2018 08:55 PM                     My wife ALWAYS wanted gas. So, on the new house, since natural gas was not in the neighborhood, we put in propane. I declared that if we are going to have propane, then anything that generates a lot of heat will use it. So it feeds the oven, water heater (tankless), furnace, generator, clothes dryer. I'm not the cook (I microwave) but as far as HVAC, gas is the way to go. Instant heat.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-15-2018 10:50 PM                        quote: Kenneth Wuepper Gas is not perfect either. Oh yeah. As a 13-year old, I was walking to school one day, when I heard an almighty bang, and a cloud of smoke appeared about 200 yards in the distance. This was the reason why. Throughout my adult life, until I emigrated to America, I would only have electric cookers in any home in which I had a choice in the matter. The really scary aspect of that explosion is that no amount of safety and vigilance by the occupants of the apartments would have done any good: the leak was in the main pipe below the building.  |  IP: Logged

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