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Posted by Anthony Hopland (Member # 336) on 02-12-2000, 03:14 PM:
 
What is out there that can be booked in the U.S.? What shape was it in last time it was seen? I have seen a list from Paramount and Columbia. Does anyone know of any more?
Is the print(s)of Sound of Music that Films Inc had in the late 80's still out there?
How about the restored My Fair Lady....WB and Kit Parker says CBS ownes it, CBS "does'nt own any movies"
THANX, TJH
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-12-2000, 03:31 PM:
 
Apperently CBS junked My fair lady because it was so badly damaged with actually a song missing
Appocolypse is around as is lawrencce of arabia, Vertigo, Hamlet TopGun and the raider serries
 
Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 02-12-2000, 03:53 PM:
 
lets see... Heres the 70mm titles that I can remember off the top of my head that were in recent circulation:

Hamlet (1996) (mag, all twenty reels of it)
Baraka
Tommy (some prints are in bad shape however)
Apocalypse Now
Vertigo (DTS70)
2001:A Space Odyssey (new mag 70mm prints were struck back in 96 however the film is out of circulation until the planned reissue next year, possibly with some new DTS70 prints)
Lawrence Of Arabia
Titanic (DTS70, some of these prints have been mangled in the hands of incompetent operators, so caveat emptor)
The Doors (mag prints do exist as well as CDS)
Terminator 2 (mag prints do exist as well as CDS)
Tron (ONE new 70mm mag print was struck for a special revival screening at the El Captitan last year, maybe you can get lucky and get a hold of it from BV)

and check out Kit Parker, last I had heard they still had several titles available in 70mm as well, though quality may be unknown at best.

Aaron

 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 02-13-2000, 01:57 AM:
 
There's one splicey as all hell and a bit faded print of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Also a Top Gun in decent shape with light lines. Alien (from Criterion) is fair with bad fading.

70mm titles that I know mint condition prints exist for are:
Hunt for Red October
Days of Thunder
Star Trek 5 and 6

Beware of some of these 70mm prints, as NFS was horrible about keeping things together and I've received prints in the past of The Untouchables, SpaceBalls, Edward Scissorhands, etc that were comprised of a reel of this and a reel of that! I almost wonder if the guys at NFS didn't intentionally move reels around "to get back" as each studio pulled out and went to ETS and Technicolor.

Good prints of Terminator 2 are still available, but what irks me is the fact Universal did not save a 70mm print of Far and Away. All that trouble to shoot the thing in 65mm and they didn't save a large format print!!! AAAAAAAAAARRGH!

 


Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 142) on 02-15-2000, 04:01 AM:
 
70mm prints in circulation in Australia:
Ben Hur, Titanic, Hamlet, Pink Floyd The Wall, Indiana Jones and T.O.D., Lawrence Of Arabia, plus about 20 others.
 
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 02-15-2000, 08:34 AM:
 
As of 1996, the MFL print was in practically mint condition and was bookable through Kit Parker. I don't know what happened to it since then, but it would be a real shame if someone trashed it.
 
Posted by Martin Frandsen (Member # 74) on 02-17-2000, 03:34 PM:
 
Only 70mm prints avalibel in Denmark for rental is 'Baraka' and 'Out of africa' and then there are the prints that are in the safe hands of collectors but thats another story
 
Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 02-17-2000, 09:42 PM:
 
Caught a 70mm print of My Fair Lady last summer at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) Bing Theater. The print looked and sounded pretty good--intact, just a few occasional scratches.

And the American Cinematheque just concluded their first 70mm festival a couple of months ago at the Egyptian. Again, the prints I caught were all in pretty good shape:

Sparticus (mag was quite noisy, degaussed?)
Oklahoma! (30 fps!)
The Sound of Music
Baraka
Apocalypse Now

Regards,
Paul Mayer
Long Beach, CA USA

 


Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 02-17-2000, 10:35 PM:
 
Oklahoma played in Boston two years ago (30fps, Todd-AO!). It was fun to see it and the sound was great, but this print was made from obviously faded negs, except for a few scenes which had good color and were apparently printed off of the separations. R1 had some bad scratches, but most of the rest of it was decent, aside from the overall greenish tint.

Apocalypse Now was probably Coppola's personal print or a collector's print. It's hard enough to get a good 35mm print of this title for a regular booking, and I don't think that a "normal" theatre can even book it in 70mm at this time.
 
Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 02-18-2000, 12:32 AM:
 
Regarding the 70mm screening of Apocalypse Now at the Egyptian, you're right Scott, it was Coppola's print, according to the flyers. And the theater staff handed out photocopies of the cast & credits literature used for the original 70mm limited-release. There *are* some advantages to living in SoCal after all... :-)

 
Posted by David Koegel (Member # 25) on 02-18-2000, 08:35 AM:
 
Martin: If I ever ended up with a decent 70mm print of OUT OF AFRICA in 70mm, I'd invest in a 35/70 projector. Just like when I got my first all-mag print -- that was the excuse needed to get mag heads for my projector. Then again, if I got ANY decent quality print in 70mm of just about anything, I go 70mm. It's always nice to be able to rationalize the purchase of yet another toy
 
Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 08-29-2004, 06:30 PM:
 

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Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 08-29-2004, 06:30 PM:
 
Digging this old thread up to say--that the American Cinematheque will be running a 70mm print of Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines tomorrow night (Monday) at the Egyptian in Hollywood. Co-presented with BAFTA/LA, it's a celebration for Ken Annakin's 90th birthday--he will be there for the screening. Birthday reception in the courtyard from 6:30 to 7:30, screening at 8:00pm.

The Link

Wonder if this is the same print I saw a couple of years ago at the same theatre? That print looked and sounded pretty good.
 
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 08-29-2004, 07:34 PM:
 
We were told by Fox that they do not let the one recent and only 70mm print of "Sound Of Music" out for any general showings. They do allow Patton to go out but they also prefer it to be run via two machine c/o. We tried to get S.O.M. for this past June 1st. No matter what you try to get be sure to book it way in advance!!

MArk @ CLACO
 
Posted by John Stewart (Member # 989) on 08-30-2004, 09:54 AM:
 
Paul,

We ran that print of Men in their Flying Machine last Tues/Wed here in Austin and then shipped it directly to the Egyptian. It is a DTS copy marked answer print #5. Still looks new in spite of some light base side scratches. The print was shipped on cores in boxes like PATTON and HELLO DOLLY. Last Thursday we ran BARAKA. That film really draws a great crowd.

John
 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 08-30-2004, 01:11 PM:
 
Wow, I'm envious. There's an original 70mm release print of Flying Machines still around in the UK, which Darren showed in York on Easter Sunday this year. Great sound, but the print is now very pink.

As Terry-Thomas would say, BUG ORFF!
 
Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 08-30-2004, 03:38 PM:
 
how hard would it be to come across Ghostbusers in 70mm?
 
Posted by Jonathan M. Crist (Member # 413) on 08-30-2004, 04:40 PM:
 
The Sony Pictures Repertory site at www.sonypicturesrepertory.com lists Ghostbusters as being available in 70MM. Michael Slessinger handles the repertory titles.
 
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 08-30-2004, 11:02 PM:
 
A 70mm print of Ghostbusters ran in Seattle this past March. It's out there.
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 08-30-2004, 11:14 PM:
 
Don't get too excited about Ghostbusters being in 70mm. The image looks like 8mm blown up to 70mm. No wait, I've got 8mm that looks better than that 70mm print does. Anyway, it looks like crap with softball sized grain.

The sound is nice though.
 
Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 08-31-2004, 07:14 AM:
 
I went to that screening of "Those Magnificent Men" last night at the Egyptian Theatre. The print looked indeed very good, almost completely clean except for the very few light scratches already mentioned. Some shots looked a little older than the rest, apparently they couldn't find material in top condition for the restoration for these. But these were only a couple of very brief moments. The director was there, 90 years young, and talked about the making of the movie.
 
Posted by Thomas Hauerslev (Member # 566) on 09-01-2004, 12:56 AM:
 
I interviewed Ken in 2000 about shooting in 65mm. He had a ball in Bradford, over here in the real world.
 
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 09-03-2004, 10:02 PM:
 
Ghostbusters is very much available in 70mm and we are running a print (#5001) on Sunday. We ran the first reel today and it looks to be in very nice physical condition, though slightly grainy.
 
Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 09-03-2004, 11:00 PM:
 
LPP stock I take it.
 
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 09-03-2004, 11:07 PM:
 
Yes, and in very early stages of vinegar syndrome, too. [Frown] It shipped out of the ETS Cincinnati depot.
 
Posted by Robert Throop (Member # 61) on 09-04-2004, 02:42 PM:
 
Scott,
Where are you running it?
 
Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 09-04-2004, 03:17 PM:
 
quote: Scott Norwood
Yes, and in very early stages of vinegar syndrome, too.
The mag stripe may well have something to do with that, especially if the print has been stored in conditions of hiigh humidity. A pity, because I like 70mm mag sound.
 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 09-04-2004, 04:02 PM:
 
Me too. Maybe it's just my hearing, but I can hear detail (especially HF) in a six-channel 70mm mix that I just can't pick up in any digital sound I've ever heard in a cinema. It's like the difference between domestic sound played through a cheap CD player versus an obscenely expensive hi-fi geek turntable, playing a decent LP with no more than 15 minutes per side. On paper there ought not to be any difference, but to my ears there sure as hell is.
 
Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 09-04-2004, 04:29 PM:
 
The "Magnificent Men " screening was in DTS. BTW, it didn't appear to have anything on the surround (or "effects" channel), and I couldn't make out directional dialog either.
 
Posted by Darren Briggs (Member # 1071) on 09-04-2004, 05:27 PM:
 
There is a print of Ghostbusters here in the UK, not sure of condition though. May even be a part 2 also. would have to check my list.
There are 100 70mm prints stroed in Deluxe Film in Perivale, some multiple prints of some titles like 'Indy-Last Crusade'
I had 3 prints of it at once a couple of months ago!

Its allways best to get the print and run it fully, as I have a print of Gandhi, which has perfect picture but some reels have sound damage.

Darren
 
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 09-04-2004, 11:31 PM:
 
FWIW, "Days of Thunder" is also available. We played it back in '98.

Josh
 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 09-05-2004, 05:45 AM:
 
Even the prospect of 70mm wouldn't be enough to lure me into sitting through that again. How could the person who wrote Chinatown be responsible for that?!
 
Posted by Darren Briggs (Member # 1071) on 09-05-2004, 07:26 AM:
 
But Nicole Kidman is in Days of Thunder before she started to look rough.
Its a good ole popcorn movie.
Lots of boom on the 70mm print I bet!

Its also avavilable in the U.K.

From what I can gather the UK has the most 70mm prints available it seems. Shame we havn't got distributors to appreciate what a back catalogue they have got.
And we don't get the re-prints like the US, shame would love to see the new print of Hello Dolly and Sound of Music

Darren
 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 09-05-2004, 09:28 AM:
 
OK, maybe it isn't quite as shite as I remember. That memory is probably clouded a bit by Chinatown being one of my favourite films, and wondering just how the same person could have written the script for both of them. He must have been short of money by the late '90s, I guess.
 
Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 09-05-2004, 10:48 AM:
 
I wonder if the print that had CDS on it, got yanked, striped and sounded in mag, is still extant.
 
Posted by Rich Ferrando (Member # 2056) on 09-05-2004, 03:53 PM:
 
There's a 70mm print of "Cliffhanger" out there as well. We had it a couple years ago so that we could test out our 70mm stuff. At present our mag sound head isn't functioning, but I'm going to try to get it fixed up and hopefully show a couple 70mm films next year. My dream would be to attempt to get ahold of a 70mm print of Kurosawa's "Ran," but I seriously doubt there's one floating around anymore.
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-05-2004, 04:02 PM:
 
quote: Steve Kraus
I wonder if the print that had CDS on it, got yanked, striped and sounded in mag, is still extant.
The CDS prints had their image offset from center, just like 35mm does due to the optical soundtrack. It could be done, but it would lower the aspect ratio down. Of course since Scissorhands was 1.85, I suppose they could've gotten away with it.
 




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