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Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 03-01-2000, 11:42 PM:
 
What theaters do you know of that are dumps? Filthy, disgusting, etc.

In my area these are THE WORST:
Regal Cinemas SOUTHSHORE MALL, Aberdeen, Wash

Regal Cinemas CINEMA 3, Centralia, Wash.

Those two are both reek from the filth.

 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-02-2000, 01:18 AM:
 
AMC:
Westminster Promenade 24
Highlands Ranch 24
Seven Hills 10
Tiffany Plaza 6
(AMC only has 4 theatres in town)

United Artists:
Thornton Town Centre 10
Denver Pavillions 15 (yuck!)

Mann:
Green Mountain 6
Union Square 6
Cherry Creek 8
Festival 6
Tamarac Square 6
Southwest Plaza 5
 


Posted by Reeve Byrne (Member # 295) on 03-02-2000, 05:47 AM:
 
Hey what is this beat up or Regal theaters forum?

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Posted by Colin Wiseley (Member # 247) on 03-02-2000, 07:26 AM:
 
The theater I work at used to be a complete dump until it was renovated in '98. Now it's the best one around.

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Lyric Theatre
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Posted by Bryan Redemske (Member # 354) on 03-02-2000, 11:01 AM:
 
Crossroads 12 (CEC) in Waterloo, IA used to be pretty brutal, but we remodeled the place and there's not many that compare around here anymore. but there are a couple of auditoriums that still pretty much suck. just different soundfold on the walls pretty much.
 
Posted by Daryl Lund (Member # 356) on 03-02-2000, 11:39 AM:
 
Ken what about the G theatre in Mossyrock, WA ?
 
Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 03-02-2000, 11:55 AM:
 
Here in Dallas:
AMC Grand 24 (site of a double murder) as well as being just dirty and poorly maintained. Its also just a few miles away from the Strip clubs and cat houses, so the area around it isn't too hot either.
AMC Prestonwood 5 (now closed) used to be considered the WORST theatre in the Dallas/Ft Worth area.
Loews Chisolm, and Loews Park Preston, simply because they have those HORRIBLE seats.
 
Posted by Andrew D'Vrey (Member # 285) on 03-03-2000, 01:46 AM:
 
Per a buddy of mine who works at the place...Regal Cinemas, MN...terrible masking problems, peach fuzz growing on the apeture plates, very dirty prints--many scratched too, poorly functioning automation (lights go UP at policy?!?), highly incompetent projection staff -- less than a year old (the theater--not the staff, tho I could see where confusion may occur).

The funny thing is...the GM came over to my theater, which is about 4-5 miles away and was bragging about how his new theater would steal most of our business. We don't have cushy stadium seating, we charge a dollar more the door and $.50 to $1.00 more at the concession stand, but we kick their *** every day of the week at the box office by thousands. By well over 10,000 on weekends.

I know, I rip on Regal alot. And I know there are Regals with projectionists (and even GMs) who care...I commend you. But after seeing this place and the fact one of their (almost) brand new theaters has already turned into one of the worst dumps in the area... That and news that they are builing a 20-screen plex and expecting an operator to run all 20 screens by his or herself per shift for a pathetic $7.50/hr. Sorry, but one bad apple spoiled the whole damn bunch, for me.

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Posted by Bryan Redemske (Member # 354) on 03-03-2000, 11:02 AM:
 
wait, here's another one - Cinema IV Theatre at College Square, Cedar Falls IA. it's basically the main 'competitor' (if it can be called that) of Crossroads 12 (above). nasty nasty seats (they're even new). the old ones used to sort of recline. they were either straight up or way slouched. no middle ground. the masking is horrible. the projectionist can't tell the difference between flat and scope (flat trailers, scope movie, do the math). that's not a problem if you have a turret of course, but they don't, and they wouldn't know how to use it anyway. plus, if you get one of their movies it's got all these damn Honda and Nascar ads on it along with a mangled version of the 'un'attatched trailer. in closing, they suck.
 
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 03-08-2000, 01:05 AM:
 
London Square Cinema Six, Eau Claire, WI
Localy operated, which isn't nescessarily bad. Theater really sucks though. Staff, auditoriums, everything. The worst part about it is they're our only competition and they are killing us. Why? Bookings. Carmike should be able to squash these guys but I don't they even care.
 
Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 03-08-2000, 04:10 AM:
 
Well I am afraid I have to add MY OWN THEATRE to the list of trashy theatres. Reason is that we have been here 19 years and so far as I can tell little to no maintenance has been done since opening. I even recieved hate mail about how trashy the place is and that they would never return.

So what am I doing about it? Good question. Until recently not very much. My partner in crime has been rather tight on the budget and has refused any payment to vendors and servicemen, so most of the work is done by myself. Good thing I know how to use a glimshafter and a rodthingamajigeroo. Otherwise i would be in real trouble!

Actually we are in the process of refurbishing the intire location. So far I have overhauled most of our projection equipment and replaced all of our reflectors and lamps, had the lenses reground, began using FILMGAURD, the god of all chemicals, installed one and soon a second DTS system, and soon two dolby cp500 units. We will be overhauling whats left of our 20 year old seats as there is no way in hell we can afford new ones.

Soon we paint over the grey and baby blue and PINK walls, using a cool midnight blue and stopsign red color combination. We are installing a new stage and begining live stage shows on the 17th (wish me luck). I admit the place still reeks, but it will take time and by summer we will install a full service kitchen as we are getting a restaraunt liqour liscence so we can serve ACTUAL FOOD WITH BEER AND OTHER DELICACIES. This will be the place to be.

I took before pictures six months ago, I should have brad post them so you can see what I have had to work with.

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Posted by Paul Konen (Member # 41) on 03-08-2000, 10:09 AM:
 
Those Loews seats are incredibly bad. I think they were described in a previous post as either straight up-down or reclined.

I would have to vote for those in Dallas.
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 03-10-2000, 10:33 PM:
 
Worst theater of all time (that I've personally seen)?...the ex-AMC Prestonwood 5 in Dallas.

Worst theater seats of all time? The medieval torture devices at the Loews Chisholm 5 in Plano.

 


Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 03-11-2000, 12:31 PM:
 
Here's a scary thought...
I've heard the AMC Forum 5 over in Ft. Worth is just as bad as the Prestonwood ever was, and its still open!

I would HOPE that the presentation was considered to be slightly bettered during my time at the Prestonwood. To my knowledge no prints were scratched, and only 1 print was damaged, and that was due to a problem with a projector ( the state of the projectors was VERY poor).

I think Sony (Loews) owned stock in the company that manufactured those midevil torture devices they call seats, All of the older theatres have them... At least here in the D/FW area? Any word from the rest of the US?
 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 03-14-2000, 01:21 PM:
 
On the topic of "dumps": there is a theatre in Decatur, AL that was originally a Fairlane/Litchfield theatre (opened in 1982). Carmike took it over around 1990 and built 4 new auditoriums, doubling the size of it in 1992. It appears that nothing has been done to maintain the theatre in many years. Most of their projectors need serious work done on them and the cosmetic condition of the facility is poor, and there are some serious roof leaks. If I were to choose a theatre in my area to call a "dump", this would be the one. I listed the gory details at http://home.hiwaay.net/~criswell/theatre/generated_subpages/facilities/st72a-c8.html . I've heard many horror stories about their booth from previous employees. The city manager for Carmike told me that four new projectors were going to be put in to replace the 1982 ones, and that cosmetic improvements would be made, but I'll believe it when I see it. This is the "dump" in my area. By sharp contrast, Carmike built a top-notch theatre in Huntsville, and has kept it up very well.
 
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 07-02-2001, 05:13 PM:
 
Love this thread so much I'm gonna bring it back up . . .

Hoyts Cinema City in Hartford CT. A 4-plex off the Interstate at the end of a dead-end street, across from the local water treatment plant. Every auditorium is oversize with a 2:1 screen, no masking and mono sound. Yet this dump happens to be Hartford's key arthouse -- gets first crack on all arthouse fare going into Hartford. I walked out of Pi at this theater in '98 because of the crappy presentation.
 


Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 07-03-2001, 02:24 PM:
 
That sound like the Tower theater in Sacramento- a tri-plexed theater with mono sound in 2 of them, but they get exclusive engagements of a lot of good movies. What's sad is some people think this is the best theater in town just because of the movies they get, never mind that the presentation sucks. I think people who go to this theater are 'wannabe' film buffs- they think they're cultured just because they can sit through a subtitled movie and not get bored, but they don't notice that a third of the auditorium is missing and there isn't any (acceptable) sound!
What's really sad is that this place was closed for several months after Landmark dumped it, and the new company that took it over renovated the seats and other stuff but didn't do a damn thing with the projection equipment- in fact I've heard it's now even WORSE than it was when Landmark ran it!
 
Posted by Scott D. Neff (Member # 185) on 07-03-2001, 07:18 PM:
 
I've seen many bad theatres in my travels. Worked at a bad theatre -- even after it was remodelled it was bad.

But hmmm -- the WORST theatre I've ever seen? The Tan Foran 4 in San Bruno, CA.

The TanForan - sublet to many different people by United Artists, was built by UA in about 81-82?. It's on the 1st floor of a mall. You buy your tickets on the 2nd floor -- take escalators down into the lobby. The fun part is that from the 2nd floor of the mall, you can see into the lobby, it's completely open, so people can spit, throw sodas, throw food and I heard once (probably a lie) somebody threw a friend into the lobby.

The kicker is that the bathrooms are half a level up (stairs only) from the auditoriums. The bathrooms hang over three of the auditoriums, and since the theatre had never been kept up, the toilets LEAK into the auditoriums.

As far as projection went, Century projectors, Christie lamphouses and ancient AW3's -- but they didn't have masking, one auditorium I poked my head into didn't have an aperture plate at all -- and they must all be Mono except the big house -- which is just stereo (at least when I was last there.)

If you're ever in the area and want a good laugh, drop in and take a look around -- it's well worth the time.

-Scott
 


Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 07-03-2001, 07:23 PM:
 
There's not very many theaters in Lawton, but there are two which qualify as dumps. The Cache 8 theater (currently run by Hollywood/Wallace and formerly run by United Artists and originally built by Litchfield) is a complete embarassment. The screens are dirty, projection is always dim, sound quality is terrible (and sound leakage between auditoriums is bad --and these are analog shows, not digital!!!). The changeable copy marquee sign out front is nearly demolished from the Memorial Day weekend storm. And there is no sign they are going to fix the thing either (our sign company certainly hasn't received any storm damage calls about it).

I would also say the Vaska theater here qualifies as a dump, but I have some reservations about the harsh judgment. The sound and projection are both crap and the seats remind me of those cheapo wooden things we had to use in elementary school. However, I cannot knock that theater too badly since it is a bargain house and run independently. At least the place is fairly clean and the prices are cheap. The fellow who owns it has pockets that are not too deep. He'd like to put DTS in some day, but finding the money for it and a better sound system is a bit of a problem.

The new Dickinson Theaters 12-plex in Central Mall is a pretty disappointing build. It is not a dump (at least not yet), but it sure didn't live up to its pre-build hype. Incidentally, the Carmike 8 here just had its eighth DTS system installed so it can have the bragging rights of being the only all-digital-sound complex in the Lawton area. I'm doing some tricky looking graphics work for ads that will run in the paper next week to promote this theater's "exclusives".

There are other theaters in the North Texas/Oklahoma area that I usually avoid. I HATE AMC theaters which install the surround speakers in the ceiling. Absolutely wrong! I have had too many sub-par experiences with Hollywood sites in the Oklahoma City and Tulsa area to visit them anymore. I even had a very underwhelming experience at Hollywood's Promenade 12 (which is an all-THX complex). Cinemark theaters can often be hit and miss on quality (but the new one in Tulsa is pretty nice).
 


Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 07-03-2001, 10:14 PM:
 
In Central Ohio, the worst theatre is Drexel Grandview (sorry, Jeff). Screen is small, and the dialog is impossible to understand. Too many echoes. I saw THE BUTCHER BOY in there, and understanding THAT film in there was just about impossible. I refused to see MEMENTO in there, as its just to hard to understand the actors.

Worst seats are at the Wexner Center for the Arts. Seats are designed for a lecture hall, not sitting for 90-120 minutes.

Faux Cinemark Mill Run was, at one time, the best theatre in town. Now, it is run down, with very few employees. Last time I was there was a Sunday to see TRAFFIC. One concession stand worker, one usher and one manager. Film broke twice. This was first weekend of run. I have never gone back, and I never will. This is also the closest theatre to my house. I have friends who go there because they hate crowds, and they know they will never find one there.

Mark Lensenmayer

 


Posted by JC Cowles (Member # 914) on 07-03-2001, 11:25 PM:
 
Well, it's not there anymore (thank God), but I went to a Cinema Cafe and the apeture plate was actually cut like a Trapazoid. It was a second run house so the prints were already in bad condition, but this was pitiful.
 
Posted by Alan Plester (Member # 852) on 07-04-2001, 12:33 PM:
 
"THEATRE ONE" Coventry comes to mind. Very uncomfortable seats, scruffy atmosphere. All noises from booth could be heard but best of all, they had c/o projection, when one of the projectors was operating, some of the picture was on a cieling pole half way down the aisle. A very poor twin house, now shut, and I only went once.
 
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 07-04-2001, 02:30 PM:
 
I've been in a couple of dumps, but one that sticks in my mind was a place in New Jersey, just over the Tappen Zee bridge. A friend became manager there, and asked me to help him hook up the non-sync; it had never been connected. I forget exactly where that place was but it was at the right end of a shopping center/ strip mall. The town it was in looked fairly nice, so I thought it would at least OK inside.

It was a single, but had been twinned later. The automations looked like they were home-made. Not a bad job for home-made, but obviously not professionally made. The controls were pretty much only; "GO" and "STOP". No documentation anywhere; not even labels on the few switches there were. As far as I could tell, there were no provisions for non-sync.

What was really interesting was the front booth wall. The booth was wide but not deep, (guessing) about 40 feet by 12 feet. There was a huge hole in the front wall. It was roughed out cinderblock, but went from floor to ceiling, about 20 wide in the center. There would be no problem for someone to fall accidentally out into either auditourium. You could see the edge of the wall that seperated the two auditouriums. Sound went from one auditourium, through the booth, and out to the other auditourium. They had tried to cut some of the sound down by hanging drapes across the hole, but it didn't work too well. So the rule was not to turn the volume up too loud.

The place looked like it was doing good business, which made me think; here is another example where the locals only go to their local theater, and think it is on a par with most other theaters.
 


Posted by Michael Brown (Member # 890) on 07-21-2001, 02:30 PM:
 
The ABC in Grimsby.

Mono sound, and a screen at an angle to the audience, ie one side of the screen was further away that the other. And wooden seats.
 


Posted by Manuel Francisco Valencia (Member # 710) on 07-23-2001, 03:40 AM:
 
Alright Bobby Henderson, I'm stepping in! Being the only Cinemark theatre in Oklahoma City, you must mean that WE "hit and miss" on quality. Before I go down there and compare why don't you tell me exactly how it is that we miss on quality.
 
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 07-09-2003, 02:14 PM:
 
Ken Layton will love this one: The Capital Mall 4 in Olympia WA. Even its patrons agree it's a dump. A developer just got city approval to build a 12-plex, all stadium, all digital, near the mall. The mall management has sued to block the 12-plex, citing traffic and parking problems.
 
Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 07-09-2003, 02:43 PM:
 
Let's add the Loew's State Theatre in Times Square to this fine list. Every time I have seen a film in this theatre there has been something wrong with the presentation. Like treading the wrong film of a double feature, not just once but three different times. And the electric marquee under the Virgin Megastore sign, showing the wrong films playing in the theatre.
They had films that played 3-8 earlier.

Got to Love that Loew's [thumbsup]
 
Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 07-09-2003, 02:50 PM:
 
I truly wish I had pics of the long since demolished Cineplex Odeon Promenade 6.

This was once a great showcase opened in the '60s by ABC/Interstate theaters as a single screen theater, later a 2nd auditorium was added on. Supposed when like this it was a very nice theater. After changing hands several times, it was chopped into 6 theaters, the original auditorium was split in half, and done half way decently had curtains on walls etc. the other auditorium was split 4 ways, half way up and half way across, to get to the lower auditoriums you had to go though a tunnel. these 4 auditoriums were just bare cinderbock walls, (no need for surround here!) all screens were mono.

I don't remember what projection equipment it had, though I do remember century heads, and superlume-x lamphouses. This theater as notorius for having the hands down worst presentation in the entire D/FW area (The AMC Forum was a distant 2nd).

Not too many people were sad to see this theater go.
However looking back, the consession stand was cleaner than any AMC's I've ever seen.

BTW, this is the only theater that I've ever seen charge for butter on popcorn. Concession workers had to "upsell" butter and were judged on how much butter they sold, never made any sense to me.

With the closing of that theater, I would say that the title of worst theater in town has been passed on to annother theater in Carrollton. At least it was when I was there.

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Posted by Don Sneed (Member # 955) on 07-09-2003, 07:27 PM:
 
In Houston...The Southmore-6 (Dollar Cinema), or now a five screen since the projectionist & owner rob parts from a good machine to keep the other five going...HUH !!!! Bad reflectors, only 4-lumps on each screen...a 12 oclock (noon) scene looks like a 8pm shot, let it be a night scene & no picture is seen on the screen....& the funny part is People go to that theatre to watch a movie....pitiful !!!
 
Posted by Steven Privett (Member # 718) on 07-09-2003, 10:02 PM:
 


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Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 07-10-2003, 01:02 AM:
 
This just about says it all. [Frown]

Better views of the darker pics here

The place WAS pretty nice on the inside during the 70's and 80's (the exterior was a lovely [bs] -brown color until the exterior got redone in 1988.)

It still kills me to see what has happened to the place [Frown]

-Aaron
 
Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 07-10-2003, 02:16 AM:
 
Charles:

I saw the online version of the story. I don't purchase the Olympian newspaper because it's as bad of a newspaper as the Capital Mall is a theater. The Capital Mall Cinemas was a dump from the day it opened. It still has mono sound in 2 houses. Still has it's original 1978 American Seats and vintage 1978 ORC consoles. Surprisingly, the ORC consoles run perfectly and are plenty bright on-screen. The roof leaks and if you look at the entire mall, there's moss and mold growing everywhere. We already have a total of 13 screens in this town and we don't need anymore theaters. All we need is to take better care of the theaters we already have and keep them clean!
 
Posted by Steve Anderson (Member # 364) on 07-10-2003, 07:52 AM:
 
Almost any Carmike theater in Nashville. One 12 screen is nicknamed "Stinky-12" Each house smells like sour milk and popcorn.
 
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 07-10-2003, 09:42 AM:
 
The only 12-plex I'm aware of in Nashville is the Regal Bellevue 12. The Carmike locations in operation are:

Is it one of these you are referring to? If so, which one? Or did I miss one? [Smile]
 
Posted by Don Sneed (Member # 955) on 07-10-2003, 06:44 PM:
 
Hey Steven.....yea buddy I remember the Southmore booth when your Dad was in charge of it, I never had problems when I serviced it...if your dad call for service, then there was a problem...the booth went way way down after your dad left...if you both would see it now, you would cry !!! I think the last few years of life at the Southmore theatre & the Epson Drive In Houston (NOW CLOSED) was the two worst projection rooms & theatre I ever been to in my 33 yrs in the business !!! Tell Dad hello for me....;
 




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