Speilberg said it was a shame that Kubrick died before the project could be completed. he will put all of his attentions into its production and direction. It will be scheduled for release in the summer of 2001 (aptly dated dont you think?)

Now I think that Steven is a decent director, but he's NO Stanley. I think he will do an apt job but he had better do a damn great job. Director's better suited would be Jean Caro or Alex Proyas.

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That sounds pretty darn stupid to me. (with apologies to the Jedi Master Film Handlers )
 

It's not that I like being a Jedi Master Film Handler...I don't! There's just nothing I can do about it right now. It's such a long way from here.

That's your uncle talking...

Yeah, my uncle!

I need your help Luke... She needs your help...I'm getting too old for this sort of thing...

Did i forget to mencen that it must be in 6 track Mag sound with a CP200

Didja see the guys camping out in lines for tickets for this movie? I don't want to be associated with that group.
 

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He made some bizarre stuff in his life, some of it obscure, and some of it mediocre, but all of it 10x more interesting than anything playing on any of our screens tonight (20x if you're doubling "Erin Brockovitch")

Coppola? You mean the guy that directed "Jack" and "One From the Heart"? Puh-leeese! Welles? OK, "Citizen Kane" and maybe "Magnificent Ambersons", and. . . ?

Gawd.
 

Ever hear the joke about the guy who went to heaven and at the gates he was talking to Peter and then he saw Stanley Kubrick. He said to Peter, "Woah is that Stanley Kubrick?"
Peter Replies, "No that's God, he just thinks he's Stanley Kubrick"

or something like that...
 

And by the way, Lucas is most likely, NOT directing Episode II, or so I've read.

Ok, 2 cents dropped...

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No, I have not seen all of Kubrik's films, but I have seen enough to comment on his style. It seems that one of his supporters here on the forum does agree with me that some his work was "bizare ... obscure ... [and] mediocre". My only response to that is the fact that Kubrik had total artistic control after Sparticus (1960), and made films only for the enjoyment of himself. The audience is secondary, and there is the key to my disliking of him. A director should make films for the enjoyment of the audience. This is why many of films failed at the box office. Yes, the critics liked the films, but critics are liberal types that hold artistic rebels in high esteem anyway. In essence they liked him because he screwed the system, not because his films had any legitimate messages (violent human nature - don't we see enough of that from Turner's bizare, obscure, and mediocre CNN).

I respect your positions on the man. Perhaps you do think he was brilliant. I, however, do not. Why? Because he rejects traditional values and is never optimistic in his films. He directs for his own enjoyment, and the enjoyment of a core minority of film goers. I don't think posterity will pay Stanley Kubrik the acolades he received from his contemporaries.

If you're interested, I've seen four of his films: "Sparticus", "Strangelove", "Full Metal Jacket", and "Eyes Wide Shut". I could not get out of "Eyes" fast enough! The worst movie of 1999. Again, I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

Maybe they'll give it to Irvin Kershner to helm. Even though he turns 77 this year, he'd do a better job than Lucas as proved with Empire Strikes Back in 1980.

Don't get me wrong... George Lucas WAS a great director. American Graffiti is one of my all time favourite films. It's just that he didn't direct a single feature from Star Wars in 1977 until that slop last year (why not, I don't know... )and the rust he accumulated in those 22 years of non-directing will take some eradicating.

He produces well...he should stick to that now.

Just a few morsels from my universe...
- Strangelove is pure genius... but I don't think Kubrik should be canonized for his career... he should simply be listed among the top 50 or so directors of all time... which, considering how many people want to direct, is not that bad.
- Spielberg would also be on that list, so let's just be glad that A.I. isn't being done by Brian DePalma! It could be worse!
- My only complaint is that this project could postpone Minority Report... anxious to see what Steve does with Tom.
- Back before Episode 1, there was lot's of talk about George not directing 2 & 3. One person mentioned was Joe Johnston (October Sky, The Rocketeer, Jumanji, Honey I shrunk the Kids, and currently... Jurassic Park 3, a.k.a. "Extinction" or "Embryo"). I'm obviously a fan. Anyway, since "Jar-Jar and the Cute Kid Who Got Lucky" was released, I have heard nothing of George giving up his director's chair. Maybe he's afraid that he won't find a director that'll put up with Yoda's endless on-set antics.

Okay, that's my three cents.
Any other Joe Johnston fans out there?

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One more thing, if I may. You blast "liberal film critics" who applauded Kubrick for being a cinema rebel. What exactly is wrong with being a rebel? Do you feel that conformity and repitition are important to cinema? I would much rather see a film that was to the director a deeply personal statement then any
mass produced exit poll modified mainstream piece of celluloid (ooops, polyester)crapola.
"American Beauty" and "Boys Don't Cry", or "Scream 3" and "What Planet are You From"?
Anything that can be described as "art" is personal. All of it, including film.

My $.02. All right, everyone, back to blasting SDDS. Peace, brother. .
 

Spielberg fits both these catagories.
 

I've always heard the rumor Ron Howard directed more of that film than Lucas ever did.

On "Eyes Wide Shut" I was all hyped about it until I popped it in the VCR. An hour and a half later,I turned it off and when to bed.

--Chris
 

1. The point has been made that Kubrik is not mainstream. This is good. Have you seen the number of mainstream movies these days. THEY SUCK. Kubrik is independant, and he does make films that make him feel good. The great ones always do. Not everyone is going to get it, it is art and as far as that goes that is what art is. It is open to interpretation by each and every person, and the director makes no bones about trying to explain it for the masses of fat munching couch pototoes that slob out 9 bucks for a movie and the equivalent of a house payment for popcorn. This is what makes independant film so great is that it becomes a different film for each viewer, no common demoninator exists. The films that pander to box office grosses often are thin of plot and weak in story, and filled with no talent bums like decaprio.

2. Films should be an extention of the director, not the writer. Yes you need a great script or story line, plot, actors, but the real storytelling is by the director. A powerful director can twist and turn you in your seat, a weak director will leave you wondering if that was a finger in your hot dog. If the director just takes the project, its a job, if it is something close to thier heart, it becomes a story. Case in point: I myself am putting on the reins of directing. A film called "from the winter snow" about a man who through the course of one therapy session comes to terms with what he has always seen as failures in his life and discovers that he never recovered from a near fatal car accident just one year earlier. The basis of the story is if you wanted to die and were ready to take your own life, would you fight to save yourself if fate stepped in to do it for you? Now this movie is going to be a total loss and a disaster at the box office, because it has absolutely no pretense of mass pandering, no special effects, no pretty leading ladies. It is a story special and close to me and will be told with my heart and not with my pocketbook. I estimate fewer than 10 thousand will ever see it, but thats ok, because I make this film of my valition and not to make a buck. That is what is wrong with hollywood these days. More bang for the buck is not such a good thing.

3. My 17 cents were up i think about a dollar and 22 cents ago..

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Done it did it! ;-P

Actually it was on a Flat screen but it was at the MacArthur theatre in Washington DC (my personal favorite of all time). A pair of Norelcos, Futura IIs, Dolby CP-200 and 70mm (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn) and later, the reissue of Raiders of the Lost Ark (the final film to play at the beloved MacArthur before it was cut-up <sniff>. For trivia buffs, the MacArthur was the World Premier theatre for STAR TREK:THE MOTION SICKNESS....er Picture

Steve

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Just to show that everybody has their own opinions...

I have long considered Kubrick to be one of the best directors ever and while living, the best alive. Spielberg, on the other hand, I have at best mixed feeling about and normally find his film "directions" annoying and incompetent. Spielberg makes popular films, no question and picks good topics to film about. I just don't care one nit about the look of his films nor the direction. Of the Spielberg offerings, Raiders was my favorite and in my opinion, still his best offering to date.

As a Kubrick fan, Spielberg would not have been my first choice. I guess some will be pleased nobody consults me on such things as Spielberg is a popular director. I do wonder as film students study directorial techniques in the future how Spielberg will measure up with the likes of Kubrick, Wells, D'Mille, and Lean, to name a few.

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Jean Caro: City of lost children

Alex Proyas: Dark City

either of those would be the choice to direct AI, not speilberg. These two have styles all thier own, inventing movie making as they go along... thats what its all about...

So what about the rest of you? who are the greats?

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(sorry)
 

Doesn't really matter if you like his movies or not. genius is genius, talent is talent, quality is quality. I myself admire things even if I don't like it, just because of the talent/genius/effort that went into those things. Some people also don't like actors because of the roles they play. They don't get that because they are such a talented actor (or actress) they can make you hate them. You got to love their talent even though you hate the character. Take a look at the skill that Kubrik employed to do his job. You got to like him, or at least appreciate him, just because of the immense talent, whether or not you like his movies.

 

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Hey, anyhow, I glad-handed my way into a tour of Larry Miller's "Super Screen" booth the other day. The operator didn't have enough time to answer all my questions, since I didn't have time to crystalize my thoughts and then ask all my questions. When are you going to let me tour your booth?
 

As for my booth, oooohhh my booth.... Not sure how much longer it will be my booth, but we are remodeling at the moment so getting in here is like walking on nails, and i actually mean that too. Just stepped on one today. Bolts are dropping from the cieling now, just got hit in the head with one, this is not a good sign. That and our company is about to reorganize so I am not sure what the hell is going on. But you are on the list for a tour, as soon as i can get this place put back together and rewired we are going to open a projectionist school. Start giving classes on projection and film and the industry. Maybe find some future projectionists out of the deal. Will ahve to have you along for the ride.

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If ya smell, what the Zach is cooking.

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What the hell is THAT supposed to mean? I don't get it.
 

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I found this on a casual surf of the Film Handler's Forum and have brought it back up to get the newbies acquainted.

Suzie the cat said on www.filmreleases.com that this should have been a fall/Xmas release. Any logic in that other than "Oscar Bait"?