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Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 04-02-2000, 01:47 PM:
 
Do any locations still have regulations in effect to the number of staff that must be present compared to capacity and if they have to be present in the auditoriums?
 
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 04-02-2000, 02:34 PM:
 
Staffing requirments as set by our District Office (possibly by someonehigher up than them, I don't know).

We can have 1 concession person per 70 customers. This is watched by the District Office like a hawk and if we're even a little over the correct ratio we hear about it.

Maxinum staffing allowed:
Monday thru Friday Afternoons (per shift):
1 concession
1 usher/projectionist
1 box
1 manager
Sunday thru Thursday nights (per shif):
2 concession
1 usher/projectionist
1 box
1 manager
Fri night thru Sunday Afternnon (per shift):
2 box
6 concessions
1 ticket taker
2 usher/projectionists
1 assistant manager in addition to head manager

Keep in mind this is for a 12 plex. This Saturday night we did 550 people for the seven o'clocks. By the 70 to 1 ratio of customers to concessions we should have been able to have 7 concession workers but were only allowed 6. Not to bad, but I remember having 700 people and only 6 concession to cover it.
 


Posted by Chris Erwin (Member # 176) on 04-02-2000, 09:11 PM:
 
We have run our place with as little as 2. The box girl got sick,the asst. manager sold tix,I threaded up and started the show between slinging popcorn and cokes.

Oh,yes,I did wash my hands before threading up. No tops-it on the prints please!

BTW,we're a single screen!

--Chris
 


Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 04-02-2000, 09:49 PM:
 
Chris - you're bringing back bad memories! I actually managed to run one night (two shows) at a single with just one employee (me) due to an odd set of circumstances involving a management screwup.

Sometimes, on "slow" nights, management would only schedule two employees--one projectionist and one ticket-seller/concession person. Yes, this was stupid and resulted in long lines and many lost concession sales.

Anyway, that night (a Thursday) with shows at 7:00pm and 9:00pm went something like this: 6:00pm - arrive at theatre; 6:05pm - turn on lights, sound system; thread up movie; 6:15pm - start inspecting the first of two features opening the next day; 6:30pm - start wondering where the hell the concession/ticket person is; 6:35pm - count out cash drawer and start making popcorn to help out concession person (including figuring out how popcorn and butter machine work); 6:45pm - call manager at home and leave message on answering machine; 6:46pm - first customers arrive...I start selling popcorn and tix; 7:05pm - start movie, go back down to conc. stand and hope that all goes well
8:00pm - changeover, rewind, thread up first reel; 8:50pm - start selling tix and explain that 9:00pm show will start late; 9:15pm - start second show; 11:30pm - lock doors, break down movie, inspect and make up next week's films, sweep and mop auditorium floor, fill out boxoffice reports, deposit cash, fill out Highway Films shipping paperwork, turn off lights; 2:00am - go home.

Next day - threaten to quit if this sort of screw-up ever happens again.

Amazingly, both shows went perfectly (except for the late starting times) and I sold nearly 200 tix that night and not a bad per-cap with concessions, either. Luckly, a couple of friends of mine were in the audience for the second show and could explain to the customers that I had to leave for a minute to stop the film and bring up the house lights after the end of the first show. Argh...that was an awful experience...NEVER AGAIN!
 
Posted by Nic Margherio (Member # 273) on 04-02-2000, 10:38 PM:
 
You bet your booth they do! Even more so now than in years past given the financial situation of most theatre chains right now. Staff payroll is one of the biggest overheads (together with film rental) any theatre faces. There are all kinds of numbers to hit regarding staffing/attendance and upper management tends to get a little pissed (at theatre management) when the numbers aren't where they should be. After all, this is show business and the goal of any business is, of course, to make money. Listen to me! I'm a little AMC poster boy now! Crikey!
 
Posted by Andrew D'Vrey (Member # 285) on 04-03-2000, 01:03 AM:
 
On weekends we usually have:
15-20 Concessionists (sometimes more depending what's opening)
4-6 box office (we also do MoviePhone ticket sales)
2-4 Ticket rippers
8-12 Cleaners (sometimes pulled from Consessions)
2 Coordinators (basically shift managers)
2-3 Managers (except mondays & tuesdays when they run the booth)
2 Police officers
and ONE Projectionist.

...and THEY say there's no one who can help me move prints!!! Geez. >

Weekdays:
6-10 concessionists
2-4 box
1 ticket ripper
4-6 cleaners
1 coordinator
2 managers
One projectionist

These are usually our limits from what I've observed. But management is quick to cut people if business is slow.

------------------
"And the monkey flips the switch."
- Major Don West, "Lost In Space"

Andrew D'Vrey
IATSE Local 219
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-03-2000, 02:34 AM:
 
Scott, I feel for you. I used to manage an 8 plex where we had NO ONE who could open the theater with the manager. It was the manager...and that was it!

The routine:

This would continue back and forth until...

30 minutes later

And the process would repeat until halfway through the second rush when the ONE daytime employee would get out of school early to come help.

That's no way to run a theater. All the company had to do was pay more for daytime help. They would've made it back easily with the lost concession sales and the people who walked through without purchasing a ticket.

(Thank God I had platters!!!)
 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-03-2000, 03:14 AM:
 
I had to run a 6 plex with only 1 other person on several occasions for the entire day/evening. The staff member was put behind the concession stand, of course. I would thread all of the movies before we opened, but we didn't have any timers (they were there but they weren't reliable at all). I would sell tickets and then wait, run upstairs and start the flick at the appropriate time. Of course, at the end of the movie some couple would come out and say it was slightly out of focus and wanted a refund or pass. Denied. If the focus is good enough that they sat through the ENTIRE MOVIE without once complaining and considering the circumstances that I was working under, I was not about to reward them. I checked the start of the next show and the focus looked decent, considering the theatre I was at.

Why don't people complain and whine when they get poor customer service anywhere else? They really seem to get angry at movie theatres. Perhaps it's because the industry has a (very bad) habit of trying to solve everybody's problems with passes. Shame.
 


Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 04-03-2000, 07:16 AM:
 
Brad- you MUST be superhuman or something... I can't imagine running an 8-plex by myself. That one night at the single was bad enough.

I suppose that an owner/operator could do this sort of thing occasionally (tho probably not sustainably), but I thought that it was pretty unfair to inflict this sort of thing onto a $7/hour part-time college kid.
 
Posted by Trevor Bailey (Member # 75) on 04-03-2000, 07:31 AM:
 
I used to work for a chain that reminds me of Brad's story. They had eight and ten screen complexes but there were no timers on any of the projectors at any of their theaters, so we had to have one other person on the floor when the doors were unlocked. To cut down on staffing, they had wires pulled to the concession stand so that we could move one ticket terminal and printer from the box office after the weekend. The staff member would sell the ticket and then ask the customer if they would like refreshments, always keeping the line at the ticket terminal. You always had that person that said they didn't want anything and then would come back out and expect the staffer to ignore the system and wait on them.

I had one employee who loved to work those weekday afternoon shifts. All on her own, she would empty bulk candy bins and wash them out on a rotating schedule (we had 70 bins) between serving customers.

It's funny, we would be told to keep minimum staffing, but then the home office would call looking for some paper work that they lost and expect you to drop everything to fax them copies. I always proposed that all of the home office staff should work at a theater for one week every year just to keep them in touch with reality. LOL
 


Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 04-03-2000, 10:17 AM:
 
Hey Andrew, how big is your theatre? That's quite a staff .

I have no problems with only one PROJECTIONIST being scheduled. Its when that projectionist is also usher/ticket seller/ripper/concession person that problems begin.
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-03-2000, 04:25 PM:
 
Trevor, it had been so long ago that I had completely forgot about the calls from the corporate office wanting to check some numbers when I was the only person in the building. They were more rude than the patrons when I told them I would be happy to if they could call after 2:00...you'd think they would understand!

Scott, no I'm not superhuman, but that would've helped. Remember "Clerks"? That one line comes to mind where Dante and girlfriend are under the counter "if people don't see an employee, they assume they're being watched." That's probably what saved me for the most part.
 


Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 04-03-2000, 04:53 PM:
 
Ahhh the good 'ol days huh Brad? Wasn't #1 also the same auditorium that had the automation that didn't work right? I remember the turret was always causing you grief, but it seems the automation did on one of those mono houses did too.
That's one thing I WOULD give Atchley, he always tried to make sure we were staffed pretty well.
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-03-2000, 05:13 PM:
 
Yes, I had robbed parts from the #1 automation to keep all of the others working properly. All I needed was a few parts, but we all know how the corporate empire works with actually spending money toward anything other than their own payroll checks.

Your buddy certainly did staff well, but wow can we say "worst presentation in town"! I've never ran across another theater that had so many film breaks it was required to keep a splicer beside every projector. Funny, I remember that day when they were running Hoffa in 70mm when they made it through all 4 shows in one day without a film break. They all went out and celebrated! (I still maintain that's why he had such a large amount of staff...to be able to control the crowds when the film broke.) If only he would've taken a few extra minutes to TRAIN the staff on how to thread properly. That place was a nightmare of projection until you got there.

Wait, what am I saying? He couldn't thread properly himself! If those loops weren't crammed up against the back walls of the projector, they just weren't big enough for him!!! I remember his soundhead philosophy was something like "the tighter the better" too. Geesch.
 


Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 04-03-2000, 07:57 PM:
 
Yeah he certianly was an odd ball... He was a FIRM beliver in the 2 finger rule. I also never like the way he had us threading, running the leader on the floor, and egads! Shoe Polish! you'd think he owned stock on those companies that manufactured the stuff.
I don't remember anyone celebrating after a succesfull day of Hoffa, but I do remember we had quite a bit of problems even with Bill "gag" there watching everything. Not only were there breaks, but the CP-200 basically died as well, thats why the replaced it with the CP-65 that's there now.
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 04-03-2000, 08:33 PM:
 
A dead CP200 if some one killed it then the death penalty is too good for them.
I have only ever seen the odd Powersupply totally die other than that they just run on and on What theatre was it
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-03-2000, 09:12 PM:
 
The dead CP200 was at the old UA Prestonwood (now Granada Prestonwood). I doubt the unit was "dead". I think it was more of the fact that Dolby had just released the new CP-65 which was touted as being an all-inclusive processor and the tech wanted to get one. I do not agree with it's 70mm mag capabilities though. It should've never been marketed as such.
 
Posted by Richard Quesnelle (Member # 391) on 04-03-2000, 10:11 PM:
 
When I work my evening shift, I have two possibly three staff (usually Tuesdays) members working with me.

Two are working the candy bar and one works the box office till and runs the video rental section as well. When I am finished threading-up, I help to run the box office and candy bar.

All the younger staff leave at 9:30 pm the latest and the senoir guy is with me until 10pm (but he stays and helps out until close because I give him a ride). Pretty limited staff but it is a small town (Midland-16,000). If it is slow that night, I pretty much work alone and do everything.

Just being curious Gordon, but which IMAX do you work at? and is that the only place you work? If possible whenever I'm in the 'big smoke' next, I would love to see the set-up.

REG
 


Posted by Scott D. Neff (Member # 185) on 04-04-2000, 02:56 AM:
 
That's some pretty diverse staffing everybody has there. Our company is quite a challenge... we're on the "Don't have 'em if you don't need 'em" philosophy.

I run a fairly busy 4-Plex - with separate TEENY WEENY box office. We get to have a separate cashier - most our other theatres have the box office integrated into the concessions counter... they run Manager + 1 on slow nights.

Basically our slow nights (M-W-Th)
1 Manager/Projectionist
1 Box Office Cashier
1 Concessions/Usher

Busy Nights
1 Manager
1 Projectionist
1 Box Office Cashier
2 Concessions
1 Usher/Concessions Heler

But as manager - we're expected to get back there and help at the snack bar. What else would we do? Stand there and watch??? That'd be nutty!!!

We don't have a ratio of customers vs. employees... although if we were slow... and I didn't send somebody home... I'd definitely hear about it.

Sometimes I pull a shift at our single screen... I wish i could run that one by myself. We only get 20 people on a Monday, but out of paranoia there's always myself and another employee... just in case something happens. I could always have used the nice remote start switch that overlooks the screen from the snack-bar... if SOME CHIEF TECHNICIAN of ours... didn't disconnect it.

 


Posted by Andrew D'Vrey (Member # 285) on 04-04-2000, 04:28 AM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustin Mitchell:
[B]Hey Andrew, how big is your theatre? That's quite a staff .
[B]

Actually we're probably the busiest theater in Minnesota...there are only two theaters that come even close to what we do.

I work at Mall of America - 14 screens, General Cinema. There are plans for 6 more screens and stadium seating conversions.

We charge the most I know of in our area ($5.50 mat/$8.50 evening -- Seniors $5.50/Children $5.00). Our concessions are all about a dollar more per item and we kick most everyone's butt every day of the week. I've seen close to 20,000 on a Saturday. And I believe we topped that quite a few times during Titanic and the re-released Star Wars and the new Star Wars (granted for Episode I we were showing it 24-hours a day over the weekend).

Scream 3, our most recent big hit...we interlocked two prints for a total of 4 screens and about 1700 seats for 6 shows. That's already half way to 20,000 with sellouts in at least 7 different movies at 2-4 shows each.

Our booth is setup in two sides: east & west. We can interlock any of 5 projectors on the east and any of the seven on the west. But not from east to west--the catwalk between the booths is about the same length as each booth. Just about anything that opens sells out or gets interlocked here.

The closest competition...Regal Cinemas 16 which sells tickets for $4.50/$7.00 and way cheaper concessions with stadium seating and it's brand new only does about 2,000 on Saturdays. But if you saw a show over there you'd know why.

The Police Officers on staff are there because the Mall tends to attract the less desireable element. That and gang fights during Next Friday tend to increase the need. This is why I hide in the booth.

Why are we so busy??? We have a built-in clientel. There are 5 of the Twin Cities busiest bars on the same floor right next to us, plus a Planet Hollywood. Not to mention shoppers from the largest mall in the United States. Convenience, I guess.

We also do 1-3 preview screenings per week and have had a number of World Premiers--most recently Here on Earth.

So, yeah...quite the operation.

As far as my comment about needing help. The catwalk between booths makes moving prints a royal pain for two people, let alone one. Each are connected by wheelchair ramps that 'Z' back and forth. Plus a skinny hallway.

Luckily our Union contract forbids management from putting me as a floor employee. No theaters to clean for me

------------------
"And the monkey flips the switch."
- Major Don West, "Lost In Space"

Andrew D'Vrey
IATSE Local 219
 






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