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Posted by Richard Quesnelle (Member # 391) on 07-15-2000, 06:16 PM:
I am quite honoured to be given helpful and knowledgable info from such a group of talented and wise men. Guys like John Pytlak, Brad Miller, Gord Macleod, Mark Gulbrandson, etc. These individuals should compile a book or various manuals depending on their strengths for all us up and developing projectionists and technicians to someday be as good on the job as they are. I have been projectioning for almost a year and have learned quite alot from this site in particular. However, I now find myself unable to progress further where I am as a projectionist because my manager does not care about the theatre, his job, or myself, so things like repairs and breakdown troubleshooting I know very little of.
The Jedi-Master log book --a compilation of FAQs and answers would be a superior step for us beginners in the right direction.
Rich
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 07-15-2000, 06:19 PM:
We just feel that our best work would pale in comparison to Joes Video 
Posted by Rick Long (Member # 213) on 07-15-2000, 10:02 PM:
Ain't no school like experience, Richard. - can't beat it, especially when it comes to projection.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-15-2000, 11:30 PM:
It's right here, in electronic form.
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 07-17-2000, 05:49 AM:
Joe's video is truely THE last word on booth operation! All should abide by it.
Mark
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 07-17-2000, 07:29 AM:
That's right! I ran some 70mm IMAX tonight and just for a change decided to take it up on the 35mm platter. The tips given me by Joe on how to achieve 70mm through a 35mm roller were very useful.I thoroughly recommend this as the final word in projectionist training.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 07-17-2000, 10:00 AM:
Thank you for the compliments. But every participant from "Film Handler" to "Jedi Master Film Handler" contributes greatly to the value of this forum.The Internet has become one of the best ways of sharing information and experience among projectionists and film handlers, who've always loved to "talk shop". We all learn from each other.
Manufacturers, dealers, and suppliers that participate here enjoy working with film handlers to continuously improve the quality and performance of their products and services. Fixing problems is better than ignoring them.
Spread the word about the Film-Tech Film Handler's Forum. Encourage PARTICIPATION, and not just lurking. No question is "too dumb", if the answer helps others. It's one of the best ways to improve the movie-going experience for everyone.
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Posted by Dave Cutler (Member # 515) on 07-17-2000, 02:51 PM:
If Joes video is that good, I would like to see it. Where do I get one?
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-17-2000, 03:19 PM:
Dave,It is available for download on the "links" page of the site. Be forewarned though, people are being sarcastic about it's usefulness. DON'T actually practice anything you learn about from the video. It was made as a joke and for entertainment purposes only. It is quite funny!
Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 07-18-2000, 12:38 AM:
What format are those two movies in? I downloaded them a while back but Quicktime won't play them.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-18-2000, 02:42 AM:
They are in standard MPEG format. You should be able to play with with the built in Windows Media Player. If you're a Mac guy, you'll have to wait until Joe can answer.
Posted by Michael McGillion (Member # 493) on 07-18-2000, 04:51 AM:
Even though as Brad said, all the info and advice is online in this forum, I still think it would be great if there was a condensed version, perhaps with an index or something - wading through old threads can be a bit time consuming, especially if half the thread is taken up by an argument on an unrelated topic, or a continuing joke - they're funny, but most of the time not so applicable to the booth (joe's video excluded - oh, and the recipes for Film-Guard cocktails were very informative as well). I'm sure you could find a few volunteers who would accomplish this task for you Brad, and then maybe put it on the site in .pdf?
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-18-2000, 07:08 AM:
Michael - get a copy of the SMPTE projectionist book. It's a bit dated (from the late '60s), but there is some good information there. Apparently the BKSTS has a new projectionist manual, but I haven't seen it.
As for making the archives of this site available in PDF form--ick! PDF is a really lousy file format, actually. It's useful for stuff like the manual downloads, but would be a real waste as a means of distributing something that's basically plain text. It would make much more sense to distribute this sort of thing as compressed text files.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-18-2000, 12:11 PM:
Michael,Honestly, posts would be created on a daily basis faster than they could be archived. This is why I have not "pruned" posts. You can go back to even the days when I used a different software for the forum (noted by "unregistered" under the person's name).
The forum search engine is back up and working. That is your best bet.
Posted by Michael McGillion (Member # 493) on 07-18-2000, 09:44 PM:
Brad, I take your point about the dynamic nature of the forums.
The reason I suggested .pdf format is so that pictures and/or diagrams could be scanned in for any (hypothetical) FAQ. ASCII files or the like are great if you are only distributing text, but those little ASCII diagrams really annoy me - if you don't believe me try drawing a projector head in ASCII (Having it as an HTML page would perhaps be a better alternative to .pdf, I dunno)
Posted by Ari Nordström (Member # 288) on 07-19-2000, 02:17 PM:
Um, the pages are already in HTML. The real usefulness is when the vast material available is searchable, and there is already a search engine for that purpose. Right?A simple conversion to XML and, for example, the DocBook DTD, could provide a more durable format, and one that could be printed on paper with a minimum of effort as there are a number of DocBook print style sheets available. Such a conversion could be done on the fly, so the fact that new posts are added to the forum is not a problem as such. The trick would instead be to know where to say "enough" and make the conversion (and thus, the book).
You may disregard this post if you don't know what I'm talking about. A lot of the work I do when I'm not screening films has to do with tech writing and XML, so I'm quite used to not making sense. 
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 07-19-2000, 03:55 PM:
Unless someone wants to go through and organize all the posts somehow, I think the search feature here is adequate.If it were to be sorted and organized somehow, I would probably vote for the pdf format, simply because everyone has it or can easily get it.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-19-2000, 04:23 PM:
The current html pages seem to be the most web friendly (and server friendly) method. So long as that search engine is working, you'll get up to the minute comprehensive searches.I make cdrom backups of the forum every couple of days...just in case.
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 07-20-2000, 10:17 PM:
Brad wrote>>Be forewarned though, people are being sarcastic about it's usefulness. DON'T actually practice anything you learn about from the video. It was made as a joke and for entertainment purposes only.<<Hmmmm...THAT would explain the registration and focus problems on my next run of 'Dolphins'. 
