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Posted by Matthew Bailey (Member # 601) on 05-02-2001, 08:19 PM:
I need to figure out how
to do this. I have some Native American
Indian & related tapes,records & CD's
I want to have transferred to 35 millimeter
in traditional non-Dolby 2 channel
analogue optical stereo form with a clear
or opaque picture area. This is so if
the original material gets lost or damaged,
I can run one reel per song along with
keeping both the sound film positives
and negatives,and record through the
processor on front left,front right-not
surround,center or sub-channels to tape
or recordable CD. I would also need the
reel marked along it's entire length along
the film edges to identify what I am running. Right now,I do not have any recordable MP3 or CD equipment.
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 05-02-2001, 09:18 PM:
To transfer those recordings to 35mm seems like a waste. The cost would more than pay for a CD burner. Besides, a stereo 35mm analog non-Dolby optical soundtrack would sound inferior compaired to a good audio CD, a good cassette.Are you concerned about the long term archival-qualities of digital media? If not, a CD seems like the best pick.
If you are worried about degradation, I can't think of any cheap option except to copy all your recording onto records. Several people (like small bands) have bought record cutting and pressing equipment cheap after CD's became the standard, and still use them to press demo's. Records (if stored reasonably) will probably out last magnetic media. Magnetic media could also last a long time, but the expense to maintain magnetic storage would most likely be higher than for records.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 05-02-2001, 09:36 PM:
I agree that there are better and cheaper ways of accomplishing the same thing. Red-oxide 1/4" tape recorded on a 2-track machine at 15ips with or without NR is also a good archival format.
Having said that, there are many companies that will make 35mm optical tracks, usually from 35mm mag fullcoat. 2-track stereo without matrix or NR would be an oddball format, though. Try calling Sound One or Magno Sound in NYC, both of which make good-quality optical tracks. There are probably many other sources for this sort of thing on the west coast as well.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-03-2001, 07:06 AM:
You might check out a directory like the Variety 411 directory for vendors of post-production services:
Variety Post-Production Directory Here is a listing of members of the Association of Cinema and Video Laboratories (ACVL), some of whom offer optical sound recording services:
ACVL Member List
Although a polyester B&W optical sound negative or print might be the most archival media, it probably isn't the best choice for this application. In addition to carefully storing your analog original recordings, making multiple CD-R digital copies would be a good option:
Kodak CD-R Digital Audio Gold
Kodak CD-R Ultima
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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-03-2001, 10:55 PM:
John Walsh said in a orevious posting"The cost would more than pay for a CD burner". The cost would be really prohibitive....realistically man, you could buy the company that makes the CD burners for less than it would cost to transfer it all to 35mm.
Mark @ GTS
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 05-03-2001, 10:59 PM:
I should have added that the reason I suggested records was I thought it was the only thing would last the longest (I was thinking of hundreds of years.) Of course, you'll need to keep a record player,too!There was an article about 10 years ago about the magnetic storage at NASA. In the late 1960's and early 70's, NASA sent up spacecraft with instruments to measure stuff like solar wind, sunspot activity, upper atmospheric contitions, etc. The data from the spacecrafts were recorded onto a variety of magnetic media, but mostly on 9-track reels, for as long as each particular project was active (or until the spacecraft died.)
Most of those tapes (only 25 years later) had started to deteriorate, and NASA was hoping someone would have a use for the data and recover it before they are unreadable. I can't exactly remember now, but I thought they had something like 20,000 reels.
Although, I'm sure modern magnetic tape is better made.