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Posted by Rick Long (Member # 213) on 07-18-2001, 09:27 PM:

I have two TA-10's in two different theatres experiencing a similar problem.

TA-10's in Strong Super-Highlight consoles;

Normal TA-10 operation: the start button is pushed, motor and xenon-lamp start immediately along with sound mute, slide-projector off, and houselight to mid-level. 7 seconds later, the change-over opens and sound switches to film sound.

Unusual TA-10 symptiom: the start button is pushed, motor and xenon-lamp start immediately, and thats all folks. Nothing else happens.

This is a very unusual condition, happening maybe once a month (if that) and of course never when I am at the theatre to observe whether or not it does any of the other start functions (although the operators claim it doesn't).

It is acting as if the interlock button is pressed, but this is not the case.

Could this be r.f. from the ignitor causing this and should I be thinking about installing the shield boards?

Posted by Bill Purdy (Member # 202) on 07-19-2001, 10:31 AM:

Rick, you do have an unusual one. I am glad you mentioned the similarity to an interlock start because that is where my thinking first went. Next I thought that maybe the command to Event 1 might not be good, but from what you say you never get a douser opening. So much for that theory. You don't say how long these have been in service, but I would guess for some while, so that lessens a lot of probables. If you feel gutsy you might swap the plug-in controller daughter boards between this and another unit and so learn if the trouble is in the controller (most likely) or not. Just be sure that you do this swap with the power off, and reset any of the address switches you might be using. If you do find that the controller is at fault please give us a call (206-284-9171) and talk to me or to Don Olson and we will send you another board to try. If we come up with any more ideas we will contact you.

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Bill Purdy
Component Engineering

Posted by Rick Long (Member # 213) on 07-19-2001, 05:27 PM:

Thanks very much, Bill. That's one of the three things that make this such a great automation;

the first being its versatility (including easy change to n.c. contacts by simply moving a relay),

the second being that it is totally film-programmable so that ineperienced staff can move prints between cinemas without having to worry about changing any controls on the automation (although I am considering getting them to make up FLAT and SCOPE mylar leaders, programmed so that the right format comes up when they start the show),

and last, but certainly not least, the great customer support.

Both theatres were installed around the same time (Winter-1997). I will report what I find. Thanks again.

Posted by Kevin Crawford (Member # 469) on 07-20-2001, 12:19 PM:

I have to agree Rick. Component has great customer support. Bill helped me with a communication problem with the TA 10. Bigger companies would have passed me off to a tech guy. It is nice to know that the head honcho is willing to help out a customer himself.

Thanks Bill!

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 07-20-2001, 12:33 PM:

Kevin said: "Bigger companies would have passed me off to a tech guy."

In addition to being President of Component Engineering, Bill IS a "tech guy" (and a nice one at that)!

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
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