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Posted by Travis Cape (Member # 466) on 08-04-2001, 10:28 PM:
I recently got put into a five screen theatre with CFS automation. The problem is that no one knows how to program them or place cues. The light dimmers are all manual and so is the slide projector. This theatre was installed with new equipment in March of 1999. Four of the theatre has a simpler automation with a 1600 Watt lamp. The largest house seems to be more complex with a half light stage on the dimmer. I am also curious as to how I could wire the slide projectors to cut off at start up, etc. This little place is running be around doing the stuff that automation is there for in the first place. Thanks for the help.
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 08-04-2001, 11:17 PM:
are these CFS automations in consoles. THe ones that I am familiur with are in consoles. What type cue detectors are you using. Are they the Component engineering proxemity cue detectors or the kelmar cue detectors with the drop down fingers for failsafe. Here is a cue placement description that can be tried.On the CFS automation place the switch that says intermission/spare cue in the spare cue mode.
put and inboard (soundtrack side) cue at the end of your trailers. This should cue the lights all the way down.
At the begining of the credits place a cross cue or center cue on the film. Cross cue will use four strips of cue tape accross one frame. Center cue will use a small four sprocket holes wide cue down center of picture on both sides.
At the end of credits place an inboard cue (opposit soundtrack side of film this should shut down the pictures and sound.
all depends on if everything is set up corectly.
Posted by Travis Cape (Member # 466) on 08-05-2001, 07:59 AM:
Sorry to not detail the failsafe. We have the Component Engineering failsafes. The automation are built into the consoles. The automation panel in four of the houses is about 8" wide. The oddball in the largest house is the full 19". I hope this helps.
Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 08-05-2001, 12:54 PM:
Now that we know what you have, here is your solution:Cues and their functions:
Assuming you have a half-light dimming system (CFS dimmers-the auto should have a red button that says 'manual center cue' on it somewhere), the function switch should be set to SPARE CUE at all times.
- Start[button]+7sec: Dowser opens, sound switches from non-sync to optical. Lights drop to half brightness (if the dimmers support it, otherwise they drop fully). Slide projector (when equipped) will shut off.
- 'Outboard' cue (soundtrack side usually placed between the last trailer and the feature or policy snipe): Changes sound formats (if equipped to do so), dims lights fully (if half-light equipped), executes a real or 'phoney' turret change (if wired for auto turrets).
- 'Center' Cue (a 1/4 to 1/2" cue usually placed at the beginning of the credits, across the frame line if possible): Lights up to 1/2 (if equipped to do so).
- 'Inboard' Cue(non-soundtrack side usually placed at the blue rating band): Closes dowser, changes sound back into non-sync, turns on slide projector, brings lights up full.
As for the subject of slide projectors with CFS autos: If the console was not factory wired with a slide projector outlet somewhere on the console, usually at the front (many are-in that case it should be 'plug-n-play'), heres is how to wire it up:The following is for individuals with experience in wiring 110VAC line current-If you have any doubts contact an experienced electrician or cinema technician for assistance
Disconnect all power from the console. Run a wire from a 110v source (the cold side of the 'ACC' breaker on the console is a good place to get the current).
On the automation circuit board there is a terminal strip with many wires coming from it. near one end are three terminals labeled 'HELD CONTACTS' (N.O., COM, and N.C.). ***WARNING*** Some sound system format controls (early Ultra*Stereos and Smart MODII's come immediately to mind) may use the 'held contacts' to control format changes. if there are any wires already connected to the 'held contacts' terminals, DO NOT attempt to connect 110VAC to the terminals!!! Trace the wiring and try to move the controls for the sound formats to another place (see the automation schematic for more details) Connect the wire coming from the breaker to the N.O. terminal. Run another wire from the N.C. terminal to an outlet that you will use for the slide projector. [This is how the factory wiring is done with these consoles for slides] Connect the wire at the outlet to the 'hot' (usually the brass terminal) side of the outlet. Connect a wire to the neutral side (usually silver) of the outlet and find a suitable neutral connection to connect the other side of this wire. Plug in the slide projector and test. it should follow the functions listed above.
Good Luck!
Aaron
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 08-06-2001, 03:43 PM:
Aaron said: "The following is for individuals with experience in wiring 110VAC line current-If you have any doubts contact an experienced electrician or cinema technician for assistance".In many cases, power wiring MUST be done by a licensed electrician, or inspected and approved before being energized. Check your local codes!
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