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Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 01-27-2002, 09:09 PM:
How do you guys keep track of which trialers go back to which companies? Sometimes one studio has more than one address, and sometimes more than one company will be located at the same address. In such cases, does it matter which return label you use to send back which trailer? Thanks.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 01-28-2002, 05:46 AM:
Ken, You return trailers?
Posted by Michael Brown (Member # 890) on 01-28-2002, 06:10 AM:
I second that You return trailers?
Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 01-28-2002, 06:27 AM:
I do as well. From what I understand, the materials can be recycled. On top of that, some of the studios run contests for those that return trailers. They usually pick a random sender and send the sender $50 or something of the like. It's good practice.
Posted by Ben Stephenson (Member # 741) on 01-28-2002, 09:00 AM:
In the UK there are normally only 2 places to return trilers, MPD & NSS. But if they are any good they find there way to my home 
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 01-28-2002, 12:28 PM:
Fox requires that their trailers be returned. (Not in a nasty New Line way. ) Others politely *request* that they be returned, for recycling I assume. Paramount is the one that does a random drawing each month for 10 $50 prizes. All these companies provide prepaid return shipping labels. I try to comply with the studios' requests whenever possible.
Posted by Wes Hughes (Member # 981) on 01-28-2002, 03:31 PM:
in 19 years working in a cinema I have only returned one trailer...
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 01-28-2002, 06:46 PM:
Although most studios ask for trailers to be returned, it is generally not enforced. The only one that I have heard enforcing trailer returns in Lucas w/Star Wars.Speaking of trailers, has anyone ever seen the THX "WOW"? Really a great THX advertisement w/only a few prints in exixtance.
Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 01-28-2002, 06:48 PM:
We send in trailers all the time. On three seperate occasions, I've "Won" the $50.00 contest from Paramount.
Posted by John Hazelton (Member # 898) on 01-28-2002, 07:42 PM:
I used to program a college film series. We ran all of our features in 35mm or 70mm. In the past 3 years or so, it became much harder to get trailers to advertise our upcoming shows. With the studios taking most trailer distribution in-house, and Technicolor buying NSS, trailers became almost impossible to get for the non-theatrical market.Even when I ordered trailers for movies that were still in second run, we were told that there were no trailers left. I was told we'd have to depend on trailer returns from commercial theaters. I can recall only one time that we got a trailer we'd been waiting for.
I was usually reduced to trying to buy the trailers on eBay with my own money, if we could get them at all.
Please consider returning the trailers (if they're not too trrashed). You might actually be helping a fellow projectionist.
(While some may think it's the distributors' problem for not providing enough trailers to begin with, unless they change their minds, this is the only way to get trailers back into circulation.)
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 01-28-2002, 07:57 PM:
I've got to agree with the previous post. I've gone into booth "closets" and found literally tons of dead trailers. In such cases, I've instructed managers and projectionists to return what is current and toss the rest in the dumpster. Distribs provide free shipping, there are people that can use the things, and it costs to send the stuff to the dump, where it isn't recycled. Please return these things.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 01-28-2002, 08:09 PM:
I have _never_ received a used trailer for anything. Not even late-run limited-release art-house stuff. The only trailers that I've ever run that weren't new and sealed are those which are either old ones from my collection or recent ones which came from other theatres.This leads me to believe that distributors have no intention of recycling the trailers by sending them out to other theatres. I assume that by "recycle," they really just mean that the plastic gets shredded and turned into Coke bottles or something.
Has _anyone_ ever received a used trailer from a distributor?
Posted by Miguel Angel Martorell (Member # 1110) on 01-28-2002, 08:11 PM:
We have a guy that delivers the film to the cinema from the distrubutor warehouse and returns it. The same thing with the trailers. All are returned. No exception. A funny thing, this guy is also projectionist and the plumber for all the ABC cinemas. GREAT GUY!!!! About the WOW thx trailer is the one that features images from Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc?. If is that trailer our only screen with thx showed it for two months from the inaguration. After that, Kelonik (our cinema machinery supplier)report us about the inmediate return and I never have seen it again. Itīs a pity because it sounds f******* great.
Sorry for my english and saludos
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Posted by Tao Yue (Member # 836) on 01-28-2002, 09:07 PM:
I second Scott. I've also never gotten a used trailer from a distributor. Which also leads me to believe that they simply shred them -- seems to me to be more of a draconian copyright issue, given the fact that occasionally they send nasty emails to some eBay trailer sellers.If that is the case, then you would actually be doing fellow projectionists a favor by not returning trailers and keeping them for possible use in second-run. Does anyone have the facts on this?
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Tao Yue
MIT '04: Course VI-2, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
Projectionist, MIT Lecture Series Committee
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 01-28-2002, 09:14 PM:
I also have never received a used trailer.
I never received a prepaid return address to return trailers.
I just threw out about 100 trailers.
I have a feeling that if a lowly projectionist won the $50 from Paramount, it would be sent to the home office and never reach the projectionist.
Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 01-28-2002, 09:29 PM:
I got to keep the money. However you have to wait as long as it takes for a manufactures rebate to come back. Anyway, if I work for an independant second run theater and I see all these post about chain theaters throwing away old trailers, I would start thinking about making some new friends.
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 01-28-2002, 10:16 PM:
I used to get used trailers all the time from Velde. Anyone else remember them?I'm aware of second run theatres that recycle not only trailers, but posters and mylars from friendly first run theatres. Makes sense to me.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-28-2002, 10:47 PM:
We used to get used trailers from NSS, but probably not for at least 5 years or more. I have never gotten a used trailer from anyone except the old NSS.The whole trailer distribution system is a mess. I have to order the trailers I need, and about half the time can't get them. At the same time, some of you guys get more trailers than you can use.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 01-28-2002, 11:32 PM:
John H., Heed the posts here -- no studio distributor has EVER made any trailers avaolable for second run or art house exhibitors. NEVER. Your best bet for getting trailers is to find those theatres with the basements full of old trailers, befriend the GM or projectionist and see if they will let you sift through their stuff -- you will have a better chance of finding titles that way than thinking the distribs will have trailers for the very films they are booking to you. Same goes with paper. In the days of NSS, they kept trailers for decades and you could get stuff for most of the classics and older titles. Now that films have become the fast-food of the entertainment industry with re-releases being non-existant with the life of even the hottest titles no more than a few months, trailers are not kept. I have no idea what Paramount and Fox do with the trailers that are actually returned, but you can be sure it isn't storing them for guys like you and me running art houses and museum cinematheques.
The thing to do now is watch what's out there and order trailers and one-sheets from NSS for the films you know you will eventually want to run....and keep them.
Frank
PS -- anyone know if Donald Velde Inc, and Consolidated Poster are anywhere to be found? They used to deal with most of the independent titles. I always sent those trailers back because they did make them available over and over any time you wanted to book them. I lost track of them and their old phone numbers no longer work.
Posted by Brad Haven (Member # 954) on 01-29-2002, 05:22 AM:
We alway's have to return our trailer's, if we dont, we get a call from head office asking us where they are.
We actually do get the occasional second run trailer's, we recieved some used "AMELIE" trailer's from britain, which even had a date of release printed on it which was august(?), the local distributer had to print up a new ending stating the australian date of release, and just recently we recieved some used mulholland drive trailer's, possibly from the states.
slightly off topic , we actually get more second hand print's(feature)than we do new print's, mostly to do with being an arthouse film and not having the budget for a mass striking of print's .most of these print's are run through that stinky film cleaning bath.
So please look after those arthouse print's as they might come down under to my cinema.
Posted by Tim Turner (Member # 1109) on 01-29-2002, 09:40 AM:
I never return trailers. And who gets the $50 for the random drawing? I'm sure the projectionist would never see it at my theatre, the managers would pocket it before we even knew it was there. 
Posted by Steve Anderson (Member # 364) on 01-29-2002, 11:20 AM:
At the Regal I worked at they would never retun trailers and we would toss outdated trailers into a huge box and then dump them when it got full. The box would hold around 75-85 trailers.
Posted by Tim Turner (Member # 1109) on 01-29-2002, 11:34 AM:
Its the same deal here at Ultrastar.
Posted by Steven Privett (Member # 718) on 01-31-2002, 03:10 PM:
I've won Paramount's prize twice. I did all the trailer returns and on Paramounts, I put my home address. That's where the prize money came.
Then I met people that had second-run theatres and they picked them up from me every couple of weeks. I still don't see where it would hurt to ship them back if only to get them out of your booth, and city dump.
Posted by Tim Turner (Member # 1109) on 01-31-2002, 08:52 PM:
When you return the trailers do you just put them in the can when you return a print?
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 01-31-2002, 09:11 PM:
So what happens if you send a box of Fox trailers to Paramount? Are you still eligible for the prize? 
(I'm willing to bet large sums of money that they wouldn't even notice.)
And what are these "prepaid shipping labels"? I've never seen them, save for a couple of special 20th Century Fox titles (Ep. 1, etc.)
Posted by Donna Sylvester (Member # 726) on 01-31-2002, 11:13 PM:
All you guys that run first run all the time have no idea how difficult it is to get trailers. I show first run once in awhile and I see how many trailers you get in those cans. Maybe twice a year I will even get a movie with the "attached trailer" still attached. The little guys have to order every trailer they want to show be it from Technicolor or whoever. I made a call the other day and they had about six out of twenty or so trailers I wanted, in stock. They send the trailers and it cost me $35! (Technicolor can only send mail priority. They don't care--they don't have to pay the postage. Now I say ground, UPS, and get them two weeks later.) Technicolor asks do you want to back order the rest? Hell, no. If I do that they send one every few days or so at about $12 a pop and soon I can't buy that new speaker or whatever it is I need because I've exhausted my savings on trailers. I used to beg the local Cinemark for their extras and they would share; but they don't anymore. I think they think I am some kind of competitive threat now. YES--I like that! The jest of this rant is please return the trailers so us little guys can show them, too. And yes, I have received recycled trailers and yes, I did win Paramount's $50 once.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 02-01-2002, 12:12 AM:
If I had any reason to believe that the trailers returned to distributors would find their way into the hands of smaller theaters, I'd be all in favor of returning them. Since that doesn't appear to be the case (except maybe outside the US), it seems like a better way to recycle the trailers would be to make friends with the owner of a smaller theatre and let him come by periodically and take what he wants. This benefits the distributors (because their product gets more advertising) and the smaller exhibitors (because they get trailers without having to pay for shipping) without really harming the first-run house. Same for posters and other promotional stuff.
Posted by Paul Harnden (Member # 1034) on 02-01-2002, 01:05 AM:
Never returned trailers, but never heard of the possible $50 prize. Oh well, even if I did get that back my ol' head projectionist would've prolly pocketed it. We usually kept the used ones just in case the distributor didn't send the required ones in the can or if we received a used print with all the trailers missing. When the movie would come out we'd store it in a box to be thrown out.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 02-01-2002, 03:32 AM:
The Paramount $50 prize is actually real. I've won it before, and from the looks of it, so have a few other people on this thread.
Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 02-01-2002, 04:20 AM:
I have won as well as a couple of my projectionist to boot. It is real. As far as the recycle thing, I really wish I knew what they did with them. I have been told that they are "recycled" by Paramount and Fox but in what way, I do not know.
Posted by John T. Hendrickson, Jr (Member # 849) on 02-01-2002, 05:53 PM:
I've been returning trailers for years, and have never won squat. Ditto from the "Fox Rewards" program. I don't think they give a rat's a*s about the independents. We do it anyway, as long as the companys pay the return. Just trying to be environmentally friendly.
Posted by Wes Hughes (Member # 981) on 02-01-2002, 10:10 PM:
Two Comments:Two of our theatres (our original two) are arthouse. Been in operation for 10 years and 7 years. Never had a problem getting art house trailers (although you usually have to order them yourself).
As far as mainstream...I have thrown away trailers for nearly two decades...but now I have taken to stuffing them in film cans when they are to be shipped out.
Posted by Sean M. Grimes (Member # 445) on 02-02-2002, 07:17 AM:
The Fox rewards program is real ladies and gents!! From my last management job I now have a kick ass toaster, a dvd player, a nice watch, and an alarm clock. All you need to do is just do whatever promo they are rewarding for (even as small as a bus shelter ) snap a polaroid and send it in. Then sit back and wait for your prizes. Never did return trailers though, sent alot to the second runs in the area.
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 02-02-2002, 10:26 AM:
A toaster??
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 02-03-2002, 10:44 AM:
Wes, You've never had any trouble getting art house trailers? What magic trailer depot do you know about? I can give you a list of about a thousand titles that we can't get any trailers for....hell, just say it will be impossible to get a trailer for any picture that is more than two years old.
As for Fox and Paramount wanting their trailers returned, they sure aint doing it so the independents can get their hands on older trailers. Just call up Fox or Paramount and ask for a trailer from one of their older releases. They'll tell you, after they stop snickering, that they don't deal with trailers. I have to buy my trailers from collectors in order to get most of what I want.
Actually, I'll give you odds that it's their legal department concocting this return rewards thing, just so they can establish that their intent is always to retain property ownership of the physical entity. The copyright law doesn't protect their ownership of the trailer itself. With this return request in place, they can then legally argue that anyone selling trailers on eBay is selling their property, the rights to which they never intended to relinquish through abandonment to counter the "trailers in the dumpster" argument that is made by the collectors. They have made this claim about "their" trailers in ebay auctions on a number of occasions. It's all about power, not any desire they might have to make the trailers available to independent art houses. These companies dump good, runable PRINTS in the shredder because it costs them money to store and maintain a print library; you can be sure they are doing the same with any trailers which are return to them by those few houses that do it.
Best advice, all you commmercial guys....save the trailers for us art house/independent/second run cinemas. Be-friend a local art house!
Posted by Darren Solomon (Member # 1120) on 02-03-2002, 07:10 PM:
I work at a 16 screen big chain theatre, and get extra trailers, but not many as we used to. 3 years ago, we were getting duplicate trailers in the tripple count of each new movie. Anyway, I will say being part of the Fox Rewards program is the best and most fun as I won last years Run through the Warehouse event and took home 7,000.00 in a 60 second shopping spree. I know how much now, cause of the taxes I now have to pay for the winnings. Atleast I'm using the FMV/ fair market value to reduce the amount of taxes I owe the IRS.
Posted by Tim Turner (Member # 1109) on 02-03-2002, 08:59 PM:
Ok, now how many of you return the DTS CDs?
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 02-03-2002, 09:50 PM:
Anybody who does not return those CDs should be drawn and quartered. It is just as bad as not returning a reel.
Posted by Tim Turner (Member # 1109) on 02-03-2002, 11:04 PM:
And yet, DTS hasnt said a thing about it.
I haven't been returning them for the last few years. They just kind of hang around the booth and eventually get thrown away.
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 02-04-2002, 12:22 AM:
I too am currious about the toaster.......
Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 02-04-2002, 12:55 AM:
With the Fox Rewards program, you get a catalog yearly with everything in it from pen and pencil sets to small boats. Each is assigned a point value. All you do is "redeem" your points for whatever you want ... and yes, there are toasters in the catalog.
Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 02-04-2002, 01:00 AM:
Tim, why dont you return the disks?
Its not like its a big hassle.
All you do is put them back in their cases, set them in the can, and wait for the film to be picked up.
You dont even have to save return labels, package them up, and make a phone call for them to be picked up like you would with trailers.
And like you said, they just sit there for a while until there thrown away.
It just doesnt make sense.
Posted by Tim Turner (Member # 1109) on 02-04-2002, 01:37 AM:
I guess the main reason is that noone remembers to take them out of the drives after tearing down the print until news CDs from the next print are added.
Posted by Sean M. Grimes (Member # 445) on 02-04-2002, 06:34 AM:
yep, and a damn nice toaster at that. Not only does it toast your bread but it will rotisery (sp?) you chicken and griddle your pancakes.
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 02-04-2002, 07:05 AM:
damn.......nice toaster Josh
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-04-2002, 10:04 AM:
Tim Turner's reason for not returning DTS disks: "I guess the main reason is that no one remembers to take them out of the drives after tearing down the print until new CDs from the next print are added."
Forgetfulness is NOT a good excuse. 
Please work with your staff to get them to return the disks with each print.
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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 02-04-2002, 10:24 AM:
[I'm not in the biz but can't help commenting on this anyway]Does not returning the DTS discs mean someone else who might need them at the print's next stop is going to be SOL? Seems like you are dissing your fellow projectionists and cinema operators if that's the case.
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- dave
Avoid the meadow...
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 02-04-2002, 11:43 AM:
Dave, there should be more projectionists like you! You're right on the money. Yes, please return those discs!------------------
This one time, at Projection Camp, I stuck a xenon bulb....
Posted by Karen Hultgren (Member # 395) on 02-04-2002, 01:04 PM:
Here is official word form DTS about the discs:DTS trailer discs - you can do whatever you want with them.
DTS feature discs - you MUST return the discs with the print. The discs belong to the studio, not to DTS. If you do not return the discs, you are depriving other theaters in getting discs. Sometimes, the studio will not allow us to send discs to theaters who do not get them.
So, for all those who do not send back feature discs - SHAME! SHAME! How would you feel if someone was too lazy to put the discs back in the can? Let's try to be fair to everyone and support your fellow projectionists.
Thanks, Karen at DTS
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 02-05-2002, 12:07 AM:
A bit back, Frank Angel asked if Consolidated is still
in business. Yup, they still are. We got trailers for
L.I.E. from them just two weeks ago, and surprise surprise,
they were used.Consolidated's phone number is +1 973 812 4747.
(which was pretty weird since Lot 47 Films is the distributor
for L.I.E. and their 212 phone number also ends in 4747,
just a weird coincidence...)
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 02-05-2002, 01:07 AM:
Thanks for the phone number, John; it's really good to know that they are still in business -- they handled lots of material from the independent film distribs and did indeed recycle all of their stuff. And as I stated above, we were meticulous about returning all of the material that we rented from them. They were a saving grace to every art house.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 02-05-2002, 01:22 AM:
Not returning DTS discs is the same as not returning a reel of the print. It's a shame the distribs don't make more of a stink about it when theatres do it....like refusing to send out the next feature until they get back the elements of their last feature. If they got a few prints back missing reels, you can bet that theatre would be in serious trouble. Yet here they are getting back prints without the digital audio track and no one squawks. Perhaps it's because you can still run the film without the DTS soundtrack....perhaps it's because the distrib isn't that concerned about quality (they certainly aren't screaming about the way TES trashes their prints)....perhaps it is just our propensity to sink to the lowest common denominator, take the easy way out, accept whatever will pass with the least amount of effort. In short, mediocrity wins again.
Oh geez, now I got myself depressed.
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 02-05-2002, 01:33 AM:
For what it's worth, Frank, I've always found that DTS has been absolutely great about getting discs in the event they don't show up with the print.. As long as we manage to discover their absence in time, and go through the song-and-dance of asking Technicolor or whomever for the discs and getting a "no" answer, DTS has always come through with next-day delivery of the discs.
Posted by Brad Allen (Member # 470) on 02-07-2002, 03:39 PM:
That's a mortal sin to not return DTS disks.
Un-excusable.
I suppose you don't bother to put the heads and tails back on either?
Guess, that's why 50% of the DTS prints we get, the disk's are missing.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 02-07-2002, 06:05 PM:
50%? Wow, I hope that's not the case. We have played I would say at least 300 DTS films since we got the system and I think maybe we've only had possibly 6 or 7 prints arrive without the disks. And, every time I've been diskless (except this one time which I won't go into), one phone call has solved the problem.
Posted by Steven Privett (Member # 718) on 02-07-2002, 06:38 PM:
I miss the Jewel Cases that the DTS trailer disks used to come in. I've got a rather large collection of them, that is dwindling quickly. I guess DTS got smart and stop spending the money on them. After a few hundred more CD-Rs burned, I might have to start buying them.
Of course, I would never download or copy any copy-righted material, that would be as bad as not sending back DTS feature Disks.
Posted by John Hazelton (Member # 898) on 02-14-2002, 05:10 PM:
Several people here have dismissed my concern about returning trailers by saying that they've never received used trailers. Well, I have, many times. In fact, if it weren't for returns, there would have been many trailers I wouldn't have got at all.Frank Angel makes a good point about distributors, but I have even got used trailers from some distributors as well (MGM/UA for one).
We will probably never return to the wonderful days when NSS had large stocks of used trailers on hand for almost any title, but some recycling and reuse of trailers continues.
Please return trailers, if you can. And of course, return the DTS disks! My experience has also been closer to Brad's 50% missing rate on those.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 02-15-2002, 01:59 PM:
Actually, John H., I was really talking about trailer for older titles; we are an art house playing classic titles -- I understand that you can proably get trailers for films as old as two years, but beyond that, your chances are slim to none. As a test, if you were to tell me what trailer you recently returned, I'll call up MGM/UA and asked for it; it would be enlightening to see what they would say.
In fact, I never return trailers, not because I don't give a damn, but the hard truth is, because since the demise of NSS, no studio has EVER had a trailer for the titles I play -- I have to buy, borrow or rent every title that I need from collectors or other art houses who sell, rent or are good enough to loan their trailers. Availability of trailers and one-sheet is a major problem in the industry. You would think that a distribtor who is getting a cut of my gross (thus making him a partner with me) would do everything he could to help me sell his picture. But that's why I call it an Alice in Wonderland business.
Posted by Brad Allen (Member # 470) on 02-15-2002, 05:36 PM:
Frank, I run lots of first run. And I still feel your pain. It has become very obvious to me that the distrib's take care of the megaplex's and could care less about us pions. The trailer, one-sheet situation is terrible for me too.
I've called 3 weeks before a release date to be told, "sorry don't have any more."
Posted by Bob Peticolas (Member # 328) on 02-16-2002, 06:45 PM:
A few notes:We run "art" and independent films. Over fifty percent of our trailers are "used". In fact, I would say that most are, new trailers are in the minority. Thats not to say that they are "trash", I get them with a once-in-a-while scratch, but the vast majority are in good shape and clean.
We return trailers every couple of months. With only one screen and a one week run, it take a couple of months for the trailer collection to build up. Then we box them up and send them back as a lot. If we get a request for a trailer to be sent back right after being taken down, we are happy to do it (the next day, in fact). (We just had a request to send the trailer for "Under the Sun" to the next theater and then ship the print to the same address when it came down.)
The forms for the $50 "prize" that we fill out state "home address only". My wife (our business manager and the one to ship trailers out) has won the $50 twice! The checks arrive in the mail like "money from heaven".
Lastly, if these trailers are so scarce, why not start a fourm here with "have / need" for hard to get trailers? While not all of the trailers on my shelf are "needed" (He Liu (The river), Lumumba, adventures of Felix, etc.) some of them might be. I have "The Man Who Wasn't There, Waking Life, Mullholland Drive" and others right now. If somebody needs one and can't get it, I would be happy to send it to them.
Also, what about 'scope trailers. We try to order both 'scope and flat, but 'scopes seem to be rare. It would be nice to find 'scope trailers for upcoming films when we discover that a film we are about to open is 'scope. I have two 'scope trailers in-house right now that someone could have if they need them - I don't have any 'scope features coming up that could use them. Again, a 'scope / flat exchange fourm might work.
Bob
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 04-01-2002, 11:37 PM:
By all appearances, we actually received a returned trailer from Technicolor last week. On Monday we ordered a Training Day trailer and were told it was backordered (usually hopeless). On Thursday, we received one; the shipping bag was labelled "Trailer Flat Return."The trailer did appear to be new, though (heads/tails not cut off). I suppose a significant number of returned trailers may have never been run though?
--jhawk
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 04-02-2002, 12:23 PM:
I'd say that only about 25% of the trailers I receive are actually run. So most of the ones I return will be unopened.