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Posted by Rob Oakley (Member # 293) on 01-30-2002, 12:09 PM:
Have any of you had trouble with these cheap split reels that companys ship prints out on? We got a print of Not Another Teen Movie - and it was on these. One of them was broke - I had a wonderful time with just the core on the make up table - and they looked like they were made of the same plastic that plastic forks and spoons were made of. Anyone else have this problem?
Posted by Joe Beres (Member # 678) on 01-30-2002, 02:47 PM:
I am guessing your print came from Technicolor. Am I right? Most of us have horror stories with those reels. You should do some searching, search Technicolor or TES or broken reels. One of our film-techers had a horrible fight with one of those reels, and she put the pictures on the site to prove it.
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 01-30-2002, 03:10 PM:
did anyone else notice that the new ones dont have shaft keys? Changeover houses are screwed.Josh
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 01-30-2002, 04:57 PM:
Yes, it is a Technicolor print. Not Another Teen Movie came out via Sony.Rachel almost lost an eye because one of those Technicolor reels broke apart on her. Search the Film Handler's Forum for the thread that begins "Thank you Technicolor".
Posted by Joe Beres (Member # 678) on 01-30-2002, 05:02 PM:
Oh boy, I can't wait to get my hands on some of those keyless reels. I run changeover here, and if I do get some of those reels, I will enjoy having another excuse to call TES and complain, loudly!
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 01-30-2002, 06:16 PM:
I have yet to see a reel without a keyway on it. But I've sure heard you guys complain a lot about them! 
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Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 01-30-2002, 07:22 PM:
I had a few to deal with when we got Pulp Fiction 2 weeks ago. one of the reels came tails out, but luckily it wasnt one of the four keyless ones in the 3 can shipment.Could have sworn the last print we ran of Pulp was acetate and digital, this one was on mylar and SR only. really good print though.
Josh
Posted by Bob Healey (Member # 1003) on 01-30-2002, 11:57 PM:
I couldn't run a movie straight of a TES reel, even if i trusted them to hold up - they just won't fit on the spindle. I've seen one keyless reel so far - on Shrek. Getting the film off was not a problem. Getting it back on was another story entirely. As for Pulp Fiction, I remember running it on acetate last year. Don't remeber if there was a digital track - I can't play them, so I don't look for them.
Posted by Rachel Gilardi (Member # 4594) on 01-31-2002, 03:51 AM:
Oh I love these flimzy piece of crap reels, they should keep making them worse and worse as they have been doing for years....(Technicolor doesn't seem to listen to suggestion, they seem to do the opposite, so maybe if we say they're doing good they will change...just maybe).Sorry Technicolor, your just not chipper quality!
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Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 01-31-2002, 10:24 AM:
Hey now, what did we say about using that word? 
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 01-31-2002, 12:45 PM:
Josh,
You are lucky getting all SR reels; when I ran PULP it some new TES concept -- their combo print --- half the reels Dolby A, the others SR.
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 01-31-2002, 08:50 PM:
Posted by Pat Moore (Member # 380) on 01-31-2002, 09:01 PM:
Hi;Does anyone have one of these things they can send me? I don't know if it's something we can make but I'd like a look.
Let me know...
Pat
Posted by Rachel Gilardi (Member # 4594) on 02-01-2002, 12:04 AM:
Working for Strong, you've never seen a plastic split reel??? LUCKY!
Posted by Robert Golding (Member # 746) on 02-01-2002, 02:22 AM:
I agree these plastic reels are a real piece of s__t. I have received quite a few that haven't got the pin slot punched out. I must say that they all have them, you just have to punch them out. Once that is done every thing works till they start breaking apart, etc.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-01-2002, 08:58 AM:
Who manufactures the reels? Do the problem reels have the name of the manufacturer on them? Perhaps helping the manufacturer understand the issues would help them correct the design flaws, or use different materials (e.g., a less brittle plastic).(Note, the cores/hubs are probably not from the same manufacturer as the reel flanges.)
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Posted by Pat Moore (Member # 380) on 02-03-2002, 06:29 PM:
Hi Rachel;I've seen them, of course, don't like them that much, especially when they fly apart and break easily. We make things and I'd like to see if we can make a good alternative to what's in the market now.
Now I just need to get my hands on a couple to see how they break.
Pat