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Posted by Miguel Angel Martorell (Member # 1110) on 03-27-2002, 08:05 PM:
Today in one multiplex of my company(where I work, I wish it was mine)it has arrived a new final reel for LOTR. It seems to have 5 minutes more or so that the old one. The title shown in the box is "A glimpse of the future".Is it really a new cut or they are fooling me and trying to hide that they have asked for a replacement reel?.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-27-2002, 08:14 PM:
I remember reading a rumor somewhere [here?] that a new final reel of LotR was being prepared for release. Was supposed to contain teaser footage of the next 2 installments I think, or something like that.
Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 03-27-2002, 08:23 PM:
In New Zealand release date for the brand new reel 9 is tomorrow.
I had to do a check, (for technical reasons is my excuse) and this is amazing.
From the shots of Wormtongue to Helms deep under attack by thousands of Orcs.
So many shots & details I will have to wait to receive my promo VCR trailer tape to take it all in.
Actually a very cunning marketing ploy to break the $300 million.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-27-2002, 08:26 PM:
David, is it teaser footage of LotR 2 & 3 tacked on to the end but before the credits? How long is it?
Posted by Carl King (Member # 398) on 03-27-2002, 09:55 PM:
Yep. It's a new reel with a trailer or teaser about the next installment. That's what my manager told me anyway.
Posted by Jacob Huber (Member # 1138) on 03-27-2002, 10:12 PM:
We got a purple sheet telling us about this new reel, with a 5 minute trailer for the next LotR. It said we should be getting the new reel on Thursday. Sadly LotR will not be playing at our theatre on Friday though.
Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 03-27-2002, 10:16 PM:
From my hazy recolection of LOTR it is from Two Towers only.
I had all the best intentions of timing it but was caught up in the excitement. (I have no real life.)
I guess approx 4 minutes long.
Posted by Brian Hogan (Member # 940) on 03-28-2002, 02:55 AM:
yeah... footage from two towers is right there between the final fade out and the credits. we had to run our print through tonight because we got a new one. its great because there has actually been an increase in film gross for LOTR at my theatre for the last couple weeks. this will make it even more because the people will pay to see just that teaser. joy.
Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 03-28-2002, 03:09 AM:
The teaser is supposed to be 3 and a half minutes, and was personally cut by Peter Jackson. He may have made it longer, but the intention was for the three and a half minute mark. Dave
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-28-2002, 10:25 PM:
I heard about the new trailers for LOTR being attached on a new reel. Does this new reel also include a replacement CD-ROM disc for the LOTR DTS 6-Track "B" disc?It would kind of suck if a new DTS disc was not provided. In the past, Disney provided new DTS discs for 2nd installments of those outtake reels on "A Bug's Life". I don't remember if they did it for "Toy Story 2" or "Monsters, Inc."
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-29-2002, 04:11 AM:
I don't remember about Bug's Life, but the new reel #5 audio was already on the original discs for Toy Story 2 and Monsters Inc. The projectionist simply changed the reels (making sure to cut off lots and lots of ID frames because we all know that it is impossible to break a print down without ID frames) and threaded the movie and it was fine.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 03-29-2002, 05:19 AM:
Toy Story II yes, Monsters Inc, no. A new "B" disc was issued for Monsters Inc. What I don't know is if that new "B" disc also has the original reel 5's audio on it, in case the depot accidentally saves one of the original reels for future repertory use.Karen, is it standard practice at dts to put both versions of a new reel on a replacement disc? If not, it would certainly make sense to. 
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 03-29-2002, 08:23 AM:
The nearest theater to me still running LOTR is a General Cinema -- which this week downgrades LOTR to a double-up with Sorority Boys.
Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 03-29-2002, 09:21 AM:
Am I the only one that got entire new print? Instead, we got an all new print with the new reel and we are to break down the old print and send it back. Strange...
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 03-29-2002, 01:00 PM:
Was it a "new" print, or "another" first 8 reels?
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-29-2002, 04:15 PM:
To get my question answered, I talked with Jack Connor at the Carmike 8 here in town. He's got the new reel and said New Line also included a completely new set of DTS discs for the print (both an "a" disc and a "b" disc). So, I'll have to get one of my friends to cart my butt down there to check it out (my car is wrecked and the insurance company is dragging their feet on getting me into a rental unit).
Posted by Michael Rourke (Member # 1142) on 03-29-2002, 06:07 PM:
I received a whole print as well, but not a new one.I was thrown by the false title "Changing Seasons" it said LOTR on the cans but the reels and DTS cds said "Changing Seasons" and confused the hell out of everyone. This was meant to deter theft but it resulted in the print running in analog for a couple days until we heard about their ingenious loss prevention. I don't think this was necessary because it would only fool people once the print was built and the correctly labeled cans were put away, and not too many prints get snatched off my platters.
Posted by Joseph Pandolfi (Member # 223) on 03-31-2002, 09:07 AM:
Ran it last night and I noticed that R9 all the colors were a bit blueish in tint compared to the other 8 reels. Also my SRD was tracking around 4 to 5 on the first eight and as soon at hit R9 it dropped to 1 to 1.5. I will be working at another theatre that has LOTR and I will see if the same holds true there.
Posted by Karen Hultgren (Member # 395) on 04-01-2002, 11:40 AM:
New reel for LOTR - anytime changes are made, it is up to the studio to order them. That decision is completely up to them. And in this case - yes, we did do discs with the additional footage. If anyone needs them, call your film distribuator and request them. If you cannot get them, send me an email and I'll help.Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 04-09-2002, 10:39 PM:
Brad asked a few days ago: quote:
What I don't know is if that new "B" disc also has the original reel 5's audio on it, in case the depot accidentally saves one of the original reels for future repertory use.
Actually, Monsters, Inc. is a weird case.
Disc A has reels 1 through 5 of "Monsters, INC. (w/fils 20msdel) 65488". The new Disc B has reel "13" of "Monsters Inc, Alt R5 (w/fils - 20msdel - 65488)" [sic; parens and "Inc" casing are as I've typed them], as well as the trailers (reel "14"). I assume For The Birds is treated as a trailer, but I'm frankly rather confused about that.I assume the original Disc B had only trailers. It might seem odd, but R1-R5 are 605mb, and the trailers are 162mb, so it makes a certain sense, though I don't know why reels 4 and 5 wouldn't have been put on the 2nd disc and the trailers on both as usual...
QUESTION: Does anyone still have a print of Monsters, Inc kicking around? If so, could you send me private email, there's something I'm curious about.
--jhawk