Have Deluxe Perivale started using new shipping cases? We usually get a crappy cardboard box or if you're lucky one of those 'easy carry' green boxes, but today we got a funky new red plastic one complete with black fastening strap and metal handles.
If they are new I'm not sure how well they'll hold up. They certainly look more durable than the cardboard ones and they don't look as though the cans will shake around like they do in the green boxes but I'm just wondering how long they'll hold together before falling appart.
Rob
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
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Yes we got two of these today as well. Lets see what they look like in a couple of months time!!
Rob, i hope you were being sarcastic when you said "those 'easy carry' green boxes"! I'd choose cardboard boxes over those any day when it comes to carrying them.
But we are closed for the summer, last film was 19th may, next will be mid september. I'll have to see what arrives.
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Rob, i hope you were being sarcastic when you said "those 'easy carry' green boxes"! I'd choose cardboard boxes over those any day when it comes to carrying them.
They're only easy to carry if you're hard and you carry two of 'em one handed with just one of the handles, briefcase style
Don't imagine it has anything to do with the new cases, but this is the first film to arrive in one of these, and the first time I have had one arrive with a crushed center. As I say, probably nothing to do with the case, but a bad omen.
Can't say I am too sure about the design mind. The reels in the top get to rattle about a bit (the lid being wider than the bottom). The fastening seems less sturdy than I would have expected, the plastic buckle things never normally last and the velcro (for changing the size, the box adapts for different no. reels) seems likely to wear out.
John
What does it look like the maximum number of cans per container will be?
By looking at the 2 pics:
Has the same problem as cardboard boxes. In that, first you have to remove all of the cans to see what order the reels are in. Not a problem with the green cases. (I have never understood how in a cardboard box the order can be strange eg 145263)
If so, it looks safer to carry the box upside-down, by the two handles, rather than as shown, with all the weight stressing a single
strap and buckle.
If there's but a single handle, it will soon rip off, or the box will tear. I don't see paper reel bands or cardboard separators between reels to prevent scuffing in shipment. Perhaps the bottom line in this design is to save postage by lightening the overall weight,
rather than the protection of the print. Might be satisfactory for a
single delivery, but not likely to withstand repeated use.
Reminds me of the fibre shipping containers used for decades for 16mm
prints--but they were on reels inside cans within the shipping cases,
which had two crossed webstraps fastened with metal buckles.
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Has the same problem as cardboard boxes. In that, first you have to remove all of the cans to see what order the reels are in.
Correct, having got all the cans out and sorted them , I found the film was tails out, so had to shuffle them round again. From this perspective the green boxes were much better.
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Are there TWO handles on the cover?
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I don't see paper reel bands or cardboard separators between reels to prevent scuffing in shipment.
It's also not shown on the photo but worth mentioning that the lid is hinged by the continuation of the strap (which goes under the base and is fastened to the lid on the other side). This is to allow the hinging to adapt to more or less reels. As to number of reels, I'll experiment later.
As to wether this is an economy dirve, it's hard to say. It is certainly more compact than the green boxs (which had lots of unusable space in them and only held six cans), so presumably will save on shipping (esp. given it will take more cans). I can't beleive however that they will recover the difference over cardboard boxes until the boxes have had a lot of use, which presumes they last long enough.
Hope this clears a few things up
John
P.S. They take 8 cans. (edit)
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
By coincidence the first day we received these new cases we received a letter from Securicor , who carry most Deluxe film titles,about new guidelines with regard to handling heavy parcels and also about surcharges for parcels over 31.6kg.
For all their faults, it sure seems like using clip-together reels and shipping films in 2x 3- or 4- reel cannisters would work much better. Easier on the shippers, easier on the projectionists, a little more work for the exchange...
--jhawk
that i have seen. They are not easy to carry. The film that came in was 7 reels, hopfully they will be a bit easier to carry with fewer reels in. The easy carry green cases or a battered old cardbord box are easier than this thing. The only one good thing in its favour though is the you can adjust the strap so you could get 9 or 10 reels in just for added pain. 
One was 6 reels the other 7.
The whole velcro strap business was a bit confusing at first.
In terms of carrying it: I usually always use a trolly provided by the university to carry films around. I carried the 7 reel box a little while and I found it easiest to just forget about the handles and carry it like a box.
For some reason I find the area with the shipping label to be a pain. In terms of after removing the label. Turning it around and re-inserting it.