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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 06-06-2002, 02:28 PM:

This thread is a continuation of the FI&TA forum's discussion on "Divine secrets of the ya ya sisterhood". Apparently this movie has had some of it's prints made on Fuji film stock and others on Kodak 2383 film stock. Anyone who gets a chance, please check the edgeprint of your prints tonight and post what you have.

Now I know it will be tough to refrain from posting here how horrid this movie was and what a waste of film stock this movie was and how Freddy Got Fingered was more entertaining than this piece of muck and if there is one movie that deserves to go flying off of the platter this year that this is the one and so forth and so on, but hey that's what the Movie Review section is for!

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-06-2002, 02:41 PM:

One possibility is that several different labs made the release prints. For example, Technicolor now makes release prints at labs in Hollywood California, Mirabel Quebec Canada, London England, and Rome Italy. Some Technicolor work (mostly ads and trailers) is done at their lab in New York City.

Likewise, Deluxe Laboratories now has sites in Hollywood, Toronto, London, and Rome. There are also smaller labs worldwide (e.g., Atlab, Eclair, FotoKem, DuArt, Imagica, etc.) that make release prints.

The shipping case labels, reel bands/endtapes, or leaders may give some hint as to the lab. The magenta-colored edgeprint tells if the print film is Fuji or Kodak.

There is a comprehensive directory of worldwide labs on the Kodak website:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/industry/dyn_labs.shtml

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Posted by John Scott (Member # 520) on 06-06-2002, 08:26 PM:

I just went to check my print, and running the risk of asking a dumb question, what is the difference that I should be looking for?

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-06-2002, 08:40 PM:

Brad is just trying to find out the mix of Fuji and Kodak prints, and whether there is any pattern to where they were sent. It's unusual for a distributor to mix film types, since the "look" of the picture depends upon the film. Of course, I prefer the "look" of Kodak film.

Posted by John Scott (Member # 520) on 06-06-2002, 08:46 PM:

Right, and what am I looking for on my print to tell me if it is on Kodak or Fuji stock?

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-06-2002, 08:56 PM:

You are looking for tiny magenta-colored letters and numbers that include the name Kodak or Fujicolor along the edge of the film. The magenta letters should be readable, even when printed over a cyan-colored SDDS track. (The red sensitive SDDS reader does not "see" the magenta letters).

Brad, I recall that some past postings had photos of the Kodak edgeprint. Perhaps you could insert one in this thread.

Posted by John Scott (Member # 520) on 06-06-2002, 09:09 PM:

Thanks for the help John.

Our print is:
Fujicolor

From a Technicolor Quebec lab.

Posted by David Whitbeck (Member # 894) on 06-07-2002, 12:53 AM:

Our print is on Fuji stock also. It was kind of nice building this movie, it's been a while since all reels were head first. It's just too bad I have to watch it...

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 06-07-2002, 02:34 AM:

I tend to think of the "Fuji" look as being lower in contrast and color saturation than the "Kodak" look. Maybe someone else can articulate this better than I can. For most purposes I tend to prefer the "Kodak" look, although I think that this is more of a matter of conditioning (since most films are printed on Kodak stock, we as viewers tend to associate those characteristics with how those types of films ought to look) than the actual superiority of the film's characterisics.

Does Fuji have more than one type of color print stock, or is all of theirs the same thing?

(BTW, does anyone know what type of B&W stock the reissue prints of "The Third Man" wre printed on a few years ago? They looked amazing. Rumor says it was Ilford, but I haven't confirmed this.)

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-07-2002, 06:04 AM:

AFAIK, Fuji currently offers two versions of print film, and is rumored to be working on a new version to try to compete with KODAK VISION Premier Print Film, which offers much richer blacks and more vidid color reproduction.

Although Ilford makes B&W camera films, I am not aware of an Ilford B&W print stock.

Posted by Bob Brown (Member # 1205) on 06-07-2002, 09:38 AM:

Yep, our two prints are on Fuji Stock!

Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 06-07-2002, 11:34 AM:

Print I recieved was Kodak

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-07-2002, 01:28 PM:

Looks like Texas is getting all the best prints.

Posted by Joseph Pandolfi (Member # 223) on 06-08-2002, 08:16 AM:

Brad: Both our prints are Fuji stock. I noticed the edge on top of our prints are very glossy in apprearance.