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Posted by Adam Fraser (Member # 1074) on 06-07-2002, 12:14 PM:
Does any multi screen new construction theatre still put 2 projectors per auditorium? I know it would add a lot of cost to the price of construction and require quite a bit of space but it would seem over a few years it would pay for itself in fewer lost shows due to breakdowns and quicker time to get back on screen if a lamp dies. Also, they could be set up for changeover if the need were ever to arise.------------------
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Posted by Jeff Taylor (Member # 443) on 06-07-2002, 12:25 PM:
Except for special venue and repertory houses I've never seen any changeover setups installed in recent years--and certainly no two projector platter setups for redundancy.
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 06-07-2002, 12:37 PM:
Nor have I.
Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 06-07-2002, 01:14 PM:
If I recall properly the Loews Auditorium at Sony Lincoln Square in NYC has 2 Projectors and a platter system, primarily for redundancy, but can also run Reel to Reel. I'm not sure if this would count as special venue or not.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-07-2002, 01:25 PM:
Some "flagship" theatres may retain the capability of running changeover projection in one of their houses, especially for trade screenings or previews. It also makes sense for theatres that tend to host film festivals, where a print may be projected only once or twice.------------------
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Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 06-07-2002, 06:31 PM:
Having run way too many once-only screenings on platters, I really wish that it were common practice for multiplexes to have a second machine for one or two screens. The purpose wouldn't be so much for redundancy (how often does anyone have unfixable projector or lamphouse problems, anyway?), but to save time for rentals, screenings, etc. It would also be useful for late-arriving prints, since some or all of the movie could be inspected and run reel-to-reel before being made up on large reels or a platter. This would also save time on Thursday nights, since the last reel of outgoing prints could be run reel-to-reel while the projectionist breaks down the rest of the print from the platter. I don't know if the savings in labor costs would justify a second projector, but given that a large multiplex probably runs into the millions for construction costs, a $10-30k projector is cheap by comparison.
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 06-07-2002, 07:37 PM:
In short, yes there are still new installations (multiplexes) that will have a couple of screens that have 2-projector (with or without a platter). As others have noted, sometimes this is due to the large auditoriums and the desire for redunancy, and other times it has to do with running screenings.I do have a spec out on a multiplex with the option of all changeover...I'll let you all know if it flys. All automated.
Please note, manufacturers like Kinoton have the FP30E-R whose sole purpose is for automated changeover in a plex since it will rewind through the machine. They have an accompanying automation (with pennywise origins) that is specifically set up to perform the automated changeover/rewind function. My suspicion is that in Europe that some area desire this method (as would I).
Steve
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"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
Posted by Larry Shaw (Member # 388) on 06-07-2002, 09:56 PM:
I believe parts of Northern Africa and the Middle East are particularly fond of the 2 machine, onboard rewind setups. It is really the best way to truly automate a booth.------------------
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Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 06-08-2002, 12:23 AM:
For the price of an extra projector per screen (and don't forget all the associated gear necessary) I cannot see the point in it from a stand point of lost shows.We have lost 3 shows in 4 years.
The amount of money required to equip a second projector is, frankly, unjustified.
Perhaps the money could be spent better in training/monitering/staff who know/care what they are doing?
Posted by Paul Cassidy (Member # 951) on 06-08-2002, 06:36 AM:
We had one in Auckland the "Berkerly" Mission Bay that had 2 V8's with a 3 Deck inbetween , but the other seemed to be set up for 6000ft as it did not have rollers set up to take a feed from the Platter and this was a big single that has been recently converted to a 4 screen . http://www.berkeleycinemas.co.nz/
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Posted by Jamie Sanson (Member # 1161) on 06-08-2002, 07:00 AM:
Not any more. Except for one or two special venues.Arr the good old days 