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Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 06-22-2002, 04:38 PM:
Our litter trailer is flat. How practical would it be to have a print of it printed anamorphically. Normal flat width. This would eliminate the several seconds of black while we change the aperture and lens.
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 06-22-2002, 05:20 PM:
It would cost far too much and if the lab did it at all (copyright thing I'm afraid) it would be far easier to just swap lenses.We used to have a slide the said "adjusting film" or something to that effect. You could have one of those made and use it to fill the black.
Josh
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 06-22-2002, 05:23 PM:
If it is a house signature trailor produced for you you may own the rights anyway
Anyway the costs will be high. The print will have to be cleaned and then optically printed to a new negative with a matte and squeeze added
Then the soundtrack will have to be rerecorded to a soundtrack negative and then prints run in a standard fashion
Very expensive proposition
If you have acces to the original elements some of the work could be eliminated
Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 06-22-2002, 05:37 PM:
We had our most recent policy trailers made in flat and scope. It didn't exactly double the cost, but it added a couple thousand to the overall bill. The animation was recomposed for a full-frame scope aperture and re-rendered out to its own film negative. The same sound negative was used for both flat and scope editions of the trailer.Our trailers are sponsored by our soft-drink provider (they are mentioned in the piece) and so our actual out-of-pocket wasn't too steep.
So if you're really interested in having nice logo trailers (litter, policy, whatever) then you might want to investigate whether one (or more) of your concession brands would absorb some of the cost in consideration of product placement in the clip.
Alternatively, you could go with an abstract format that will play in either flat or scope.
Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 06-22-2002, 11:17 PM:
You wouldn't be running changeovers would you?If so you could make up all your trailers(flat) and your litter trailer on one reel and do a changeover at the start of the feature.
I used to do that all the time at the first theatre I worked at because we usually only got one flat and one scope trailer for two screens. We'd run all the scope in Aud 1 and all the flat in Aud 2.
It was great during slow nights too... you didn't start the trailer reel if nobody showed up, and if anybody came in ten minutes late you just started the feature.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 06-23-2002, 09:39 AM:
Is this snipe generic or custom-made? If it is generic, then it would be cheaper just replacing it with the many readily available trailers from production houses like Filmack, Pike, Cinema Concepts, etc. They offer every kind of generic policy trailers and snipes for reasonable prices. Almost all are available in flat and scope versions, or in the case of "text and background only" snipes, they are shot full frame and can be used effective in either format. If this is a custom designed trailer, again, rather than looking to somehow convert the flat version to a scope version when there is no negative, you would probably do better just going to a production house and starting from scratch, producing a new trailer. If you let them see the flat version that you have, they could model the new production after the original, but you would be better off cost-wise just letting them produce a completely new production. Today these trailer are produced on computers and producing both a scope and flat trailer at the same time is a relatively simple process.
Frank
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-23-2002, 10:24 AM:
I agree with Frank that it would probably be more cost effective to make a new version, asking for both "flat" and "scope" formats.If all you have are existing prints, trying to use that high contrast image will compromise quality. Even if you have the preprint elements for your existing snipes, it would probably be cheaper to generate new CGI artwork.
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