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Posted by Matthew Bailey (Member # 601) on 07-04-2002, 05:51 PM:
I have a video clip of a 1965 animated Screen Gems TV logo clip.
It shows a lot of dirt around the edges of the 16mm gate aperture.
Also there is some damage to the film possibly resulting from what is mentioned above. On one of the frames,an area of the emulsion has been torn off. I think Mr. Pytlak & others can view & explain this clip. www.retromedia.tv/media/screengems.ram Also on the same retromedia.tv site, there is what I believe to be 35 mm perf buzz at the start of a 1969 NBC promo clip with the old peacock logo.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-04-2002, 07:46 PM:
Ok Matthew I must ask, do you enjoy getting scared shitless watching the Screen Gems logo over and over? You seem to have some kind of biazarre fondness for it. (For the people who have no idea what I'm talking about, do a search for "screen gems".)
Posted by Matthew Bailey (Member # 601) on 07-04-2002, 08:04 PM:
No, not at all. Not scared of it.
Posted by John Anastasio (Member # 607) on 07-05-2002, 07:37 AM:
The fact that you can see the aperture shows me that the transfer to video was improperly done. Yep, it's dirty. Yes, dirty pressure plates damage film. I'd be willing to bet that this video transfer wasn't done at a TV station. It's not even square with the frame. Your point is...?
Posted by Matthew Bailey (Member # 601) on 07-05-2002, 07:46 PM:
I honestly can't find figure out the point this time . I always do figure out what the the point is but now I can't. *******!!!!!
It's not my fault that I can't figure out the point this time & I'm
not mad at anyone but myself because of this dilemma of finding the point. Let someone
else figure out the point correctly,please,being honest here.
Posted by Joe Beres (Member # 678) on 07-06-2002, 08:25 AM:
Is anyone else confused at this point?
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-06-2002, 03:38 PM:
Heck no!
Posted by Paul Cassidy (Member # 951) on 07-06-2002, 03:59 PM:
THE Point is ........ummmmmm.......ahhhhhh.....well I don,t know 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-06-2002, 04:33 PM:
Can somebody tell Matthew that I found the point? It was in the last place I looked. It always is for some odd reason.
Posted by Sean McKinnon (Member # 612) on 07-07-2002, 03:43 AM:
I think this all may be a conspiracy to force us to look for a point in all this when in fact there is none and we have all wasted .02 seconds of our lives.
Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 07-07-2002, 03:57 AM:
I tried going back to 1965 and cleaning up that aperture and running some filmguard on the clip.
They couldnt understand what filmguard was even after I tried to explain, so I just had to tell them to wait about 35 years and then everything would become clear.
I got all the dirt off the aperture and off the film, but couldnt do much for the stripped emultion.
Apparently my efforts were in vain, because when I got back to present time, I viewed the clip again and the dirt around the aperture, and on the film were there.
My guess is they never cleaned that aperture again and transfered to video at a later time.
I guess I should have showed them how to clean the aperture themselves so this wouldnt happen.
Damn.
Oh well.
If anyone knows when the transfer was done, I will gladly go back and do it again, and finish the job this time.
It doesnt matter how long it takes to find out when the transfer was done though.
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Posted by Matthew Bailey (Member # 601) on 07-07-2002, 07:42 AM:
I t looks kile someone ignored the various thing on proper film/equipment use & care whether intentional or not What would cause a telecine or projector to tear off part of the emulsion,I don't know. Whoever did this should have cleaned the equipment &
moved the machune back some to mask out the aperture edges.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-07-2002, 02:44 PM:
Perhaps the person who was running the telecine equipment KNEW he was transferring the Screen Gems logo, realized it was one of the lamest and dull logos ever made, and as such came to the conclusion that it simply did not matter. Perhaps? I could buy it.
Posted by Joe Beres (Member # 678) on 07-08-2002, 07:57 AM:
...or perhaps they were too scared of the logo to watch what they were doing.