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Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 07-31-2002, 04:37 PM:
Strange but true -- and it happened when I saw Lovely & Amazing at the AMC Empire in NYC on 7/27.Lights should go to halfway at the end of the AMC "Previews" snipe. Actually the lights stayed up full until the 4th or 5th trailer when the booth staff manually set the lights to halfway.
Lights should go down at the end of the AMC "Feature Presentation" snipe. Actually the lights stayed at halfway all the way through the feature. This turned out to be a smart move -- Lovely & Amazing was shot on video and transferred to 35mm.
Lights should go up to halfway at the start of the end credits. This time the projector read the cue and brought the lights all the way down. 
The booth staff spotted this and manually brought the lights back up to halfway.
All this happened on the "Top of the Empire" (arthouse) floor.
Also, the print had the Lions Gate logo running twice at the beginning of R1. Misprint? Replacement of a defective R1?
Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 07-31-2002, 05:25 PM:
How did this actually improve the show?
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Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 07-31-2002, 05:31 PM:
I'm guessing it helped hide the crappy video-to-film transfer look. Maybe we should try this on Cameron's Imax film, too. 
Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 07-31-2002, 06:57 PM:
Lions Gate seems to have a lot of problems with their contract film service adding their logos to existing prints. I've caught prints with the logo spliced on upside-down/reverse, out of frame, wrong format, etc. I'm not sure if I've had doubles but I guess I must have because I do recall removing a logo of the wrong format and replacing it with the correct one which I already had on hand so it must've come from a print that had two.And then there was the movie with the entire first 5 or 6 minutes duplicated but I don't recall if that was LG.
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-31-2002, 07:01 PM:
At the end of reel 1 on "Savin' Private Ryan" it repeated the last 2 or 3 minutes of the end of the reel before the splice. It was after this happened on a sold out audience Friday night that management decided to let us screen prints in advance.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 07-31-2002, 09:26 PM:
I have had 2 prints in the last year that had this "repeating footage." Why does it happen?? Both times it was about 2 minutes of repeatd film. I've been tipped off by the non-matching soundtracks on the leaders.
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 08-01-2002, 12:24 AM:
I had duplicate footage on a used print of Apollo 13. It was about 3-4 minutes long ... long enough to not notice it right away. It happened in the middle of the reel. At the time, I chalked it up to combining two bad reels to make a good one.
Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 08-01-2002, 08:38 PM:
I saw repeating footage happen when I went to see Titanic on opening night. It was when Jack and Rose were on the deck talking during the sunset and was had three splices. (couldn't tell if they were lab splices or not, but there were LOUD pops)..."Why can't I be like you..."
POP
"...be like you, Jack? Just head out for the..."
POP
"....Jack? Just head out for the horizon whenever I feel like..."
POP
"....zon whenever I feel like it. Say we'll go to that pier sometime"
and it was fine after that. Strangest thing ever. The theater also put a flat policy on it, flipped the lens for the policy then flipped it again after the Paramount logo, so maybe they had something to do with it.
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Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 08-02-2002, 02:25 AM:
LOL! That show sounds like it was loads of fun. I wish I had been there!
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 08-02-2002, 07:43 AM:
To keep this thread from drifting I've bumped up the thread titled "O brother, scenes are repeating".