Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: 16mm cinemascope attachment

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Posted by Adam Fraser (Member # 1074) on 09-19-2002, 09:42 PM:

Is there any way to use my 2 extra Baush and Laumb Cinemascope 2 attachments on my elmo 16-CL, and how do I do so? This is for my personal viewing so it doesnt have to be perfect, just so i can watch scope prints decently.

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 09-19-2002, 10:24 PM:

Yes it should work provided the prime lens is not too short but I think the typical 2" lens ought to "fit through." It's just a matter of creating something to hold it in place. Of course it has to be able to focus down to whatever your throw is. Sometimes the outer ring can be removed and the internal stop filed down so you can focus to a shorter throw.

Posted by John Anastasio (Member # 607) on 09-20-2002, 05:45 AM:

Some of the 16mm guys just build "cradles" that sit in front of the projector to hold their 35mm anamorphics. The lens lays in the cradle. If you're really handy with tools, you can build an adjustable one.

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 09-20-2002, 06:50 AM:

A retort stand, boss and clamp, borrowed, or otherwise obtained, from a school or college chemistry lab works well for this.

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 09-21-2002, 09:08 PM:

The problem with getting the anamorphic attachment to sit correctly in front of the prime is that, once you achieve this daunting feet, you have to sit and actually watch a 16mm anamorphic image....a very painful experience.

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 09-22-2002, 04:03 PM:

They even make 8mm Scope prints, some with 4 channel magnetic sound. It's not true 4 track, it's matrixed onto two tracks, as with 35mm optical.

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 09-23-2002, 06:41 AM:

Yah, and when they release full S8mm versons (not those "abridged" abortions), they usually cost more than most used 35mm prints of the same title. And from what I understand, people who are into the 8mm format claim the labs that print them, mostly in the UK I think, are top notch, high quality labs and thus the prints evidently look quite impressive (compaired to what, asks I). Not that I am knocking it -- if someone has a passion for film and has chosen to go with film over video, even if it is the 8mm route....hey, more power to him.

Posted by Jeff Taylor (Member # 443) on 09-23-2002, 02:07 PM:

Nothing against Elmo's in general, but if you've ever used an Eiki with the flip up scope lens mount you'll never use anything else. You can even build up a flat cartoon/trailer/ scope feature show on a reel and just flip it up like turning a turret when you go from the flat trailers to the scope feature with barely a "hiccup". Great design.

Posted by Dennis Atkinson (Member # 345) on 09-23-2002, 03:51 PM:

Nothing against Eiki's in general,
but if you've ever used an Elmo with the flip up scope lens mount you'll never use anything else.

Posted by Jeff Taylor (Member # 443) on 09-23-2002, 04:21 PM:

God...I wish I'd said that!

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 09-24-2002, 07:34 AM:

Does any studio still release anamorphic 16mm prints? Or even "letterboxed" flat reductions?