Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: 16mm Projector

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Posted by Dan Parnham (Member # 1740) on 06-26-2003, 05:56 AM:

We are looking to sell our Fumeo HL3000 16mm projector. I unfortunately have no idea how old it is.
It is in good working condition except for a shonky dowser (I think the solenoid needs replacing).

Are there any suggestions at how much it might be worth?
We were thinking of advertising on ebay and so are looking to set the reserve price.

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 06-26-2003, 08:36 AM:

ebay has TONS of 16mm projectors that have sold (or are for sale). Just do a search on completed items to get an idea of what you might get for your specific model.

By the way, what's "shonky" mean?

Posted by Jeff Taylor (Member # 443) on 06-26-2003, 11:21 AM:

Sadly, expensive and/or professional grade 16mm projectors on ebay seldom seem to fetch the kind of prices you would expect to see. Proportionately, the table top xenons seem to do the best, with Eiki EX-3500's and 5000's often bringing as much as 6000's and 9000's (the most common "semi-professional" units up for auction. I think it's a combination of hobbyists not appreciating the better units, being scared of parts availability with many brands, or the cost and hassle of shipping and installing a dedicated circuit for the larger machines.

Posted by John Spooner (Member # 1565) on 06-26-2003, 11:45 AM:

Dear Mark.
The word "shonky" is common in Australia as well as the UK..
In the case of the dowser fault it would mean an intermittent type of fault to imply the dowser works one time but may not do so next time.
The word can also mean "suspect" or "dishonest", for example a shonky used car salesman which means to beware as the salesman could most likely be dishonest.
John Spooner. South Australia.

Posted by Mike Rendall (Member # 1499) on 06-27-2003, 05:33 AM:

We have a Fumeo HL3000 also, The xenon lamps are probably the most expensive part of this machine. I agree with the others that you would probably not get much for this machine since 16mm is now a 'dead' format for most film exhibitors. Do you need to sell it for cash, or are you just making space? It is the sort of thing that it would be worth holding on to for the future. You don't know you need something until you don't have it anymore.

If you had to put a price on it, I would expect to receive somewhere in the region of £100, although to someone who is actually actively looking to buy one you could obviously charge more.

Mike

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 06-27-2003, 08:55 AM:

quote:
Dear Mark. The word "shonky" is...

Thanks, John! I think I can honestly say that I've never heard that word before. But I'll be looking for excuses to throw it out there in everyday conversation now. [Wink]

Posted by John Anastasio (Member # 607) on 06-27-2003, 09:20 AM:

Shonky? It's a perfectly cromulent word! [Big Grin]

Posted by Dick Vaughan (Member # 540) on 06-27-2003, 09:43 AM:

Probably an Eborian contraction of "Shagged Out" and "Wonky"!

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 06-27-2003, 10:30 AM:

The larger Fumeo machines have typically sold for in the range of 500.00 US on ebay in the past
they are a good machine but the claw is a bit pricy to replace

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 06-28-2003, 05:09 PM:

Eiki is phasing out their 16mm projector production line at the end of the year and the rep who told me this said that all of a sudden when the word go out, there was an upsurge of buyers looking to grab as many projectors as they could (Eiki is going fully into video projection production instead). I guess the many places who have 16mm film libraries want to insure that they will have projectors to run their prints on in the long term.

Eiki demo-ed their "theatre projector" as they call it -- LCD technology advanced to its practical limits -- at the museum on a smallish screen 26ft wide. I must say, for what it is (LCD video), they were able to get quite a "decent" video picture out of this technology. Bright too. And with a 1100:1 contrast ratio which is, considering what was typical for LCD units up until only a few years ago, quite impressive.

Frank

Posted by Dan Parnham (Member # 1740) on 06-30-2003, 04:40 AM:

Thanks for the info everyone. I'm glad that I've been able to introduce some of you to new and interesting words!
I'll have to try and fit some good British slang in my future posts [Wink]

About the 16mm :
We are just looking to make some space, but if we could get a reasonable amount of money it would be a great help since we are not a commercial cinema.

Dan

Posted by Kevin Baglow (Member # 721) on 06-30-2003, 07:23 AM:

The Chinese are still producing a very nice quality 16mm projector with the same 1k Xenon as used in the portable 35mm projectors. I just supplied a new one to a film society here. The rectifier is in two pieces for easy handling. They can be purchased in a set with two projectors and one rectifier with a simple change over system. Their about two thirds the price of the 35mm portables.

Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 06-30-2003, 08:55 AM:

Kevin:

Do you have the brand and model of these Chinese 16mm projectors? Do you have a link to a webpage?