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Posted by Lakshman Thodla (Member # 1211) on 07-09-2003, 05:54 AM:
 
hi,
Is there a complete list of all the Cat nos of all the cards dolby has made and a description of the cards.ex-Cat 790 cp 650
EX card etc.

bye
lakshman
 

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Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 07-09-2003, 06:29 AM:
 
Yes, there is. It is in Steve G`s head. Once he is upgraded with a Matrix-sytle data port, it can be downloaded.
 

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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-09-2003, 07:53 AM:
 
I am unaware of any complete list that also has their description...the Dolby RXO list is pretty complete since even an unsupported card is at least given the "unrepairable" designation. Come to think of it...even that one isn't complete.

Steve
 

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Posted by Oliver Pasch (Member # 1335) on 07-10-2003, 08:53 AM:
 
A list of all Dolby-Cat.no.s including what it stands for? Well, let me think....

Cat. No. 64/5B Equaliser module CP65 .........................................................................................................265
Cat. No. 67 Alignment extender for Cat. No. 64.......................................................................................85 *
Cat. No. 69P Pink noise test film..................................................................................................................25 *
Cat. No. 69T Dolby tone test film.................................................................................................................25 *
Cat. No. 85C Pink noise generator.............................................................................................................125 *
Cat. No. 92C Magnetic preamplifier module MPU...................................................................................165
Cat. No. 92X Extender for Cat. No. 92 (MPU).............................................................................................30 *
Cat. No. 93 Surround channel sensing module MPU.............................................................................90
Cat. No. 96A 35/70 mm changeover module MPU.....................................................................................70
Cat. No. 97 Left/right stereo cell alignment film......................................................................................25 *
Cat. No. 108C Optical preamplifier card.......................................................................................................190
Cat. No. 113C Automation interface module (CP50 application).............................................................190
Cat. No. 122 Remote fader station (single remote station)......................................................................85
Cat. No. 123 Remote fader master (required for dual remote installations)...........................................95
Cat. No. 150F Optical surround decoder module CP65 ............................................................................525
Cat. No. 151 Pink noise recording for setting levels of screen and surround speakers......................25 *
Cat. No. 161 Bracket - Ballantyne................................................................................................................80 *
Cat. No. 162 Bracket - Bauer U2...................................................................................................................75 *
Cat. No. 163 Bracket - Bauer U3...................................................................................................................75 *
Cat. No. 164 Bracket - Bauer B12.................................................................................................................95 *
Cat. No. 165 Bracket - Cinemeccanica V8 ...................................................................................................90 *
Cat. No. 166 Bracket - Cinemeccanica V10.................................................................................................90 *
Cat. No. 167 Bracket - Fedi.........................................................................................................................120 *
Cat. No. 168 Bracket - Klangfilm Europa (right hand versions)..............................................................70 *
Cat. No. 169 Bracket - Philips DP70...........................................................................................................150 *
Cat. No. 170 Bracket - Kinoton DP75.......................................................................................................120 *
Cat. No. 171 Bracket - Kinoton FP20...........................................................................................................70 *
Cat. No. 172 Bracket - Prevost ...................................................................................................................190 *
Cat. No. 173 Bracket - RCA 9031 .................................................................................................................90 *
Cat. No. 174 Bracket - Simplex....................................................................................................................100 *
Cat. No. 175A Bracket - Westrex 2003 ...........................................................................................................70 *
Cat. No. 175B Bracket - Century R3...............................................................................................................70 *
Cat. No. 176 Bracket - Zeis s Ernemann 9..................................................................................................100 *
Cat. No. 177 Bracket - Zeiss Ernemann 8....................................................................................................75 *
Cat. No. 178 Bracket - Zeiss Ernophon.......................................................................................................90 *
Cat. No. 179 Bracket - Klangfilm Europa (left hand versions).................................................................80 *
Cat. No. 180 Bracket - Kalee.......................................................................................................................130 *
Cat. No. 181 Bracket - Westrex 7000 ...........................................................................................................70 *
Cat. No. 182 Bracket - Cinemeccanica V4E.................................................................................................90 *
Cat. No. 186 Bracket - Kalee 378..................................................................................................................75 *
Cat. No. 206 MPU regulator card.................................................................................................................50
Cat. No. 218 Adaptor card for Cat. No. 85..................................................................................................25 *
Cat. No. 222A Two-channel A-type NR module ........................................................................................565
Cat. No. 222B Two-channel IC based SR upgrade module ......................................................................750
Cat. No. 222SR/A Two-channel SR/A-type NR decoder module .....................................................................1,315
Cat. No. 240A Stereo optical pre-amplifier module CP65 ..........................................................................225
* indicates distributor net prices
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Quick Reference Guide (Cont.)
Catalogue No. Description Price (£)
Cat. No. 242 B-chain module CP65............................................................................................................280
Cat. No. 243A Control Logic module for CP55 (special application).......................................................195
Cat. No. 249A Power supply regulator and Bypass Fader module CP65 ...............................................185
Cat. No. 251 "Jiffy" test film (Analogue/Digital).....................................................................................200 *
Cat. No. 259A Transformer module CP65....................................................................................................135
Cat. No. 261 Bracket - Westrex 2002 ...........................................................................................................70 *
Cat. No. 262 Bracket - Meo 5XB................................................................................................................105 *
Cat. No. 263 Bracket - Pio Pion ....................................................................................................................70 *
Cat. No. 280T Spectral recording module for cinema use.........................................................................595
Cat. No. 300T Single channel Dolby SR/A decoder module....................................................................705
Cat. No. 327A Mono module CP65...............................................................................................................100
Cat. No. 350T Single channel SR module....................................................................................................595
Cat. No. 441 Optical bass extension and surround equaliser module CP65........................................275
Cat. No. 443 Control logic module CP65...................................................................................................195
Cat. No. 447 Switch module CP65..............................................................................................................135
Cat. No. 448 DS4E interface card CP65.....................................................................................................265
Cat. No. 451 1.85 Dolby Digital and SR trailer - Mancini fanfare ............................................................25 *
Cat. No. 510 Pre-amplifier and bypass board CP45.................................................................................300
Cat. No. 511 Main board - power supply, matrix decoder and signal routing CP45 ..........................520
Cat. No. 512 Backplane CP45 .....................................................................................................................320
Cat. No. 513 Front panel and theatre equalisation board CP45 ............................................................320
Cat. No. 514 Two-channel optical input board CP45................................................................................80
Cat. No. 515 Stereo surround adaptor board CP45...................................................................................80
Cat. No. 516 Remote fader (single remote station) CP45........................................................................130
Cat. No. 517 Dolby Digital remote fader card ..........................................................................................280
Cat. No. 530 Reader alignment film...........................................................................................................25 *
Cat. No. 560 Dolby Digital bass extension module.................................................................................280
Cat. No. 565 CP65 backplane adaptor card for use with Cat. No. 222 SR/A .........................................50
Cat. No. 566 Test film for illumination uniformity .....................................................................................25 *
Cat. No. 580 Microphone multiplexer for use with CP500......................................................................155 *
Cat. No. 581 Microphone for use with Cat. No. 580 ...............................................................................100 *
Cat. No. 582 CP500 to Cat. No. 580 cable ...................................................................................................95 *
Cat. No. 611A Cinema processor interface module DA20 ........................................................................400
Cat. No. 661 Optical preamplifier board CP500........................................................................................300
Cat. No. 662A Six-channel DAC/VCA board CP500..................................................................................500
Cat. No. 668 Studio daughter board CP500 (for additional Dolby SR modules)................................100
Cat. No. 669 Theatre daughter board CP500 (for additional Dolby A-type modules).........................65
Cat. No. 670 Video acquisition board DA20, CP500...............................................................................515
Cat. No. 671 Dual DSP board DA20, CP500.............................................................................................585
Cat. No. 672 LED board CP500.....................................................................................................................50
Cat. No. 673A Systems services board DA20, CP500 ...............................................................................515
Cat. No. 674 Signal level LED adaptor module DA20, CP500................................................................100
Cat. No. 675A DSP board, with Zoran IC DA20, CP500............................................................................585
Cat. No. 677 Power supply/rear panel assembly DA10..........................................................................200 *
Cat. No. 679 Power supply/rear panel assembly DA20..........................................................................200 *
Cat. No. 680 Bit rate converter board CP500............................................................................................250
Cat. No. 681 Analogue switch board CP500............................................................................................400
Cat. No. 682 Analogue output board CP500............................................................................................350
Cat. No. 683 500 Hz active crossover board CP500 ................................................................................290
Cat. No. 684 System controller board CP500 ...........................................................................................650
Cat. No. 685 Six-channel A to D converter board CP500.......................................................................420
Cat. No. 686 Six-channel DAC module DA20..........................................................................................450
* indicates distributor net prices
Quick Reference Guide (Cont.)
Catalogue No. Description Price (£)
Cat. No. 689 Remote control CP500...........................................................................................................300
Cat. No. 690 Adaptor Plate for Cinemeccanica........................................................................................100
Cat. No. 696 Adaptor Plate for Kinoton DP75, FP20 ..............................................................................130
Cat. No. 701 Dolby Digital reader assembly ..........................................................................................1725
Cat. No. 706 Video test signal generator..................................................................................................275 *
Cat. No. 734 Remote fader CP500 ..............................................................................................................120
Cat. No. 763 1.85 Dolby Digital and Dolby SR trailer - Berta the Bumble Bee......................................40 *
Cat. No. 771 Remote fader CP650 ...............................................................................................................xxx
Cat. No. 772 Analogue I/O and Bypass circuit board CP650.................................................................975
Cat. No. 773 Dolby Digital decoder board CP650..................................................................................2250
Cat. No. 774 Systems controller board CP650........................................................................................1975
Cat. No. 775 Backplane CP650....................................................................................................................475
Cat. No. 776 Power supply assembly CP650 ....................................................................................... 975
Cat. No. 779 Remote control CP650 ............................................................................................................zzz
Cat. No. 792 Bypass power regulator circuit board CP650.....................................................................100
Cat. No. 797 Flash ROM board CP650......................................................................................................100
Cat. No. 1010 Dolby Digital dynamic and static sync test film.................................................................20 *
Cat. No. 1011 Dolby Digital channel identification test film......................................................................20 *
Cat. No. 4185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Train (wide-screen/flat)............................................................20 *
Cat. No. 4235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Train (cinemascope)..................................................................20 *
Cat. No. 5185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - City (wide-screen/flat)..............................................................20 *
Cat. No. 5235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - City (cinemascope)....................................................................20 *
Cat. No. 6185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Egypt (wide-screen/flat)...........................................................20 *
Cat. No. 6235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Egypt (cinemascope)................................................................20 *
Cat. No. 8185 1.85 Dolby SR trailer - Temple (wide-screen/flat)...............................................................20 *
Cat. No. 8235 2.35 Dolby SR trailer - Temple (cinemascope).....................................................................20 *
Cat. No. 9185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Rain (wide-screen/flat)..............................................................20 *
Cat. No. 9235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Rain (cinemascope)...................................................................20 *
Cat. No. 11185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Aurora (wide-screen/flat).........................................................20 *
Cat. No. 11235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Aurora (cinemascope)..............................................................20 *
CP650-FP Front panel CP650 .............................................................................................................780 *
DPN 63770 Snap-on front cover CP650................................................................................................80 *
CP500-FP Front panel CP500 .............................................................................................................300 *
CP500-BP Backplane CP500 ...................................................................................................................500

That's all i can remember from memory... The figures added with a "*" are supposed to be some older price informations in British pounds, don't know why i can't delete them from my brain. If stopped learning the Cat.no.s when the CP-650 has been introduced...
 

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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-10-2003, 11:50 AM:
 
Yeah and you seem to have forgotten all of the ones prior to 1980 too...like even the Cat. 22 (single A-type noise reduction), Cat. 109 Meter/filter card....then there are the nifty Cat. 84 pentoptical cards....or the Cat. 34 NR tester...I mean your price-sheet...er memory really is faulty! Look up the Cat. 124 for me while you are at it. The Cat number should give you the era and processor.

Steve
 

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Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 07-13-2003, 10:53 AM:
 
I've added any Cat numbers I can find to Oliver's list, removed the prices, and here it is:

Cat.22 Single A-type noise reduction
Cat.35 NR tester
Cat.43 Post production sound processor for 360 series processors
Cat.44H Interface module (MH studio NR unit)
Cat.47 Bypass module (MH studio NR unit)
Cat.48 Remote module (MH studio NR unit)
Cat.64/5B Equaliser module CP65
Cat.66 Two-channel B-type noise reduction module
Cat.67 Alignment extender for Cat.64
Cat.69P Pink noise test film
Cat.69T Dolby tone test film
Cat.75 Optical preamplifier card CP100
Cat.76 Changeover module CP100
Cat.77 Meter module CP100
Cat.78 Non-sync module CP100
Cat.79 Fader module CP100
Cat.80 Control module CP100
Cat.81 Facilities module CP100
Cat.82 Mono-stereo optical format module CP100
Cat.83 External format module CP100
Cat.84 Optical tracks format module CP100
Cat.85C Pink noise generator
Cat.87 Blank CP100 meter panel
Cat.88 Remote control unit CP100
Cat.91 Emergency external power supply module
Cat.92C Magnetic preamplifier module MPU
Cat.92X Extender for Cat.92 (MPU)
Cat.93 Surround channel sensing module MPU
Cat.94 Pentoptical card
Cat.96A 35/70 mm changeover module MPU
Cat.97 Left/right stereo cell alignment film
Cat.98A CCIR/ARM niose weighing filter for 360 series processors
Cat.99 Dolby C labels (1000)
Cat.100 Dolby A labels (1000)
Cat.101 Dolby B labels (1000)
Cat.104 Cat.22 Bypass card
Cat.105 Cat.64 Bypass card
Cat.105D Equaliser filter card CP100
Cat.108C Optical preamplifier card
Cat.109 Meter/filter card
Cat.110 Mono/stereo optical card
Cat.111 Output card
Cat.112 Switch card
Cat.113C Automation interface module (CP50 application)
Cat.114 Power supply module
Cat.115 Link card
Cat.116B Delay line section of Cat.150
Cat.117 Remote fader card CP200
Cat.122 Remote fader station (single remote station)
Cat.123 Remote fader master (required for dual remote installations)
Cat.129 Magnetic 35mm 4 stripe Dolby tone test film
Cat.130 Magnetic 35mm 4 stripe pink noise test film
Cat.131 Magnetic 70mm 6 stripe Dolby tone test film
Cat.132 Magnetic 70mm 6 stripe pink noise test film
Cat.137 Output amplifier card
Cat.141A Electronic switch card CP200
Cat.142 Equaliser filter card CP200
Cat.143 Non-sync card CP200
Cat.146 Decoder section of Cat.150
Cat.150F Optical surround decoder module CP65
Cat.151 Pink noise recording for setting levels of screen and surround speakers
Cat.153 Format decoder logic card CP200
Cat.154 Buss driver logic card CP200
Cat.156 Projector /format logic card CP200
Cat.157 Fader /mute format logic card CP200
Cat.158 Magnetic stereo surround card CP200
Cat.160 Bass extension
Cat.161 Bracket - Ballantyne
Cat.162 Bracket - Bauer U2
Cat.163 Bracket - Bauer U3
Cat.164 Bracket - Bauer B12
Cat.165 Bracket - Cinemeccanica V8
Cat.166 Bracket - Cinemeccanica V10
Cat.167 Bracket - Fedi
Cat.168 Bracket - Klangfilm Europa (right hand versions)
Cat.169 Bracket - Philips DP70
Cat.170 Bracket - Kinoton DP75
Cat.171 Bracket - Kinoton FP20
Cat.172 Bracket - Prevost
Cat.173 Bracket - RCA 9031
Cat.174 Bracket – Simplex
Cat.175A Bracket - Westrex 2003
Cat.175B Bracket - Century R3
Cat.176 Bracket - Zeiss Ernemann 9
Cat.177 Bracket - Zeiss Ernemann 8
Cat.178 Bracket - Zeiss Ernophon
Cat.179 Bracket - Klangfilm Europa (left hand versions)
Cat.180 Bracket - Kalee
Cat.181 Bracket - Westrex 7000
Cat.182 Bracket - Cinemeccanica V4E
Cat.186 Bracket – Kalee 378
Cat.206 MPU regulator card
Cat.213 Switch card CP200
Cat.216 3-band equalizer card
Cat.217 Dolby SR labels for 1” video tape (1000)
Cat.218 Adaptor card for Cat.85
Cat.201 Magnetic input card CP200
Cat.202 Remote control unit CP200
Cat.204 Remote control unit w/ format control and fader CP200
Cat.219B Two-channel C-type NR module - retrofit for Model 330
Cat.222A Two-channel A-type NR module
Cat.222B Two-channel IC based SR upgrade module
Cat.222S/A Two-channel SR/A-type NR decoder module
Cat.231 Bypass board for XP / SP series
Cat.232B Extender board for XP / SP series
Cat.234 Two-channel Dolby A-type noise reduction module for Sony BVH-2000
Cat.235 Interface board for Ampex VPR-80
Cat.240A Stereo optical pre-amplifier module CP65
Cat.242 B-chain module CP65
Cat.243A Control Logic module for CP55 (special application)
Cat.248 Dolby HX pro module for Otari MTR10
Cat.249A Power supply regulator and Bypass Fader module CP65
Cat.251 "Jiffy" test film (Analogue/Digital)
Cat.259A Transformer module CP65
Cat.261 Bracket - Westrex 2002
Cat.262 Bracket - Meo 5XB105
Cat.263 Bracket - Pio Pion 70
Cat.280T Spectral recording module for cinema use only
Cat.300 Single channel Dolby SR/A decoder module for 363 series frames only
Cat.300T Single channel Dolby SR/A decoder module for cinema use
Cat.327A Mono module CP65
Cat.331 Dolby A-type noise reduction module for XP series
Cat.350 Single channel Dolby SR decoder module for 363 series frames only
Cat.351 "Listen" test film (A-type, Analogue)
Cat.350T Single channel SR module for cinema use
Cat.356 Tester for Cat.280 and Cat.301 modules
Cat.357 Encode/decode tester for Cat.280 and Cat.22 modules
Cat.400 Dolby SR labels (1000)
Cat.431 Dolby SR-type noise reduction module for XP and SP series
Cat.441 Optical bass extension and surround equaliser module CP65
Cat.443 Control logic module CP65
Cat.445 Single SR/A for MT series frames only
Cat.447 Switch module CP65
Cat.448 DS4E interface card CP65
Cat.450 Single A-type noise reduction
Cat.451 1.85 Dolby Digital and SR trailer - Mancini fanfare
Cat.510 Pre-amplifier and bypass board CP45
Cat.511 Main board - power supply, matrix decoder and signal routing CP45
Cat.512 Backplane CP45
Cat.513 Front panel and theatre equalisation board CP45
Cat.514 Two-channel optical input board CP45
Cat.515 Stereo surround adaptor board CP45
Cat.516 Remote fader (single remote station) CP45
Cat.517 Dolby Digital remote fader card 280
Cat.530 Reader alignment film
Cat.560 Dolby Digital bass extension module
Cat.565 CP65 backplane adaptor card for use with Cat.222 SR/A
Cat.566 Test film for illumination uniformity
Cat.580 Microphone multiplexer for use with CP500
Cat.581 Microphone for use with Cat.580
Cat.582 CP500 to Cat.580 cable
Cat.611A Cinema processor interface module DA20
Cat.661 Optical preamplifier board CP500
Cat.662A Six-channel DAC/VCA board CP500
Cat.668 Studio daughter board CP500 (for additional Dolby SR modules)
Cat.669 Theatre daughter board CP500 (for additional Dolby A-type modules)
Cat.670 Video acquisition board DA20, CP500
Cat.671 Dual DSP board DA20, CP500
Cat.672 LED board CP500
Cat.673A Systems services board DA20, CP500
Cat.674 Signal level LED adaptor module DA20, CP500
Cat.675A DSP board, with Zoran IC DA20, CP500
Cat.677 Power supply/rear panel assembly DA10
Cat.679 Power supply/rear panel assembly DA20
Cat.680 Bit rate converter board CP500
Cat.681 Analogue switch board CP500
Cat.682 Analogue output board CP500
Cat.683 500 Hz active crossover board CP500
Cat.684 System controller board CP500
Cat.685 Six-channel A to D converter board CP500
Cat.686 Six-channel DAC module DA20
Cat.689 Remote control CP500
Cat.690 Adaptor Plate for Cinemeccanica
Cat.696 Adaptor Plate for Kinoton DP75, FP20
Cat.699 Dolby Digital (white light) reader assembly – version 1
Cat.700 Dolby Digital (white light) reader assembly – version 2
Cat.701 Dolby Digital (LED) reader assembly
Cat.706 Video test signal generator
Cat.734 Remote fader CP500
Cat.763 1.85 Dolby Digital and Dolby SR trailer - Berta the Bumble Bee
Cat.771 Remote fader CP650
Cat.772 Analogue I/O and Bypass circuit board CP650
Cat.773 Dolby Digital decoder board CP650
Cat.774 Systems controller board CP650
Cat.775 Backplane CP650
Cat.776 Power supply assembly CP650
Cat.779 Remote control CP650
Cat.792 Bypass power regulator circuit board CP650
Cat.797 Flash ROM board CP650
Cat.1010 Dolby Digital dynamic and static sync test film
Cat.1011 Dolby Digital channel identification test film
Cat.4185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Train (wide-screen/flat)
Cat.4235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Train (cinemascope)
Cat.5185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - City (wide-screen/flat)
Cat.5235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - City (cinemascope)
Cat.6185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Egypt (wide-screen/flat)
Cat.6235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Egypt (cinemascope)
Cat.8185 1.85 Dolby SR trailer - Temple (wide-screen/flat)
Cat.8235 2.35 Dolby SR trailer - Temple (cinemascope)
Cat.9185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Rain (wide-screen/flat)
Cat.9235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Rain (cinemascope)
Cat.11185 1.85 Dolby Digital trailer - Aurora (wide-screen/flat)
Cat.11235 2.35 Dolby Digital trailer - Aurora (cinemascope)
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 07-13-2003, 12:21 PM:
 
Please list these by category or, where appropriate, by processor...

TEST FILMS
LOGO TRAILERS
PROCESSOR REPLACEMENT PARTS -- CP-50
PROCESSOR REPLACEMENT PARTS -- CP-500
UPGRADE MODULES
TEST GEAR

It's only proper.
 

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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-13-2003, 01:43 PM:
 
Don't forget the cat702.
 

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Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 07-13-2003, 02:40 PM:
 
For completeness you should also list the original Cat.69 sans P or T. It goes both ways. And, yes, I'm quite sure the number was no accident just as a Cat.222 is like 2 Cat.22's inferring that they do sometimes give some thought to the numbers.

My Theory of Everything extends to the solar cell wiring, too. Would you not think Red for Right, for the sake of the alliteration? Nope. In politics Red = Left.
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 07-13-2003, 03:53 PM:
 
On airplanes and boats red = left = port-side.

Think of port wine (also red).

You can also buy Cat. 69C which is a combo pack containing Cat. 69P and 69T.
 

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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 07-13-2003, 04:20 PM:
 
"Port is a red wine, and wine's not Right",

So Port is Left.

From Roy G. Biv and the people that brought you "BBROYGBVGW".

(The color spectrum and the "Bad Boys" resistor color-code.)

>>> Phil
 

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Posted by Oscar Neundorfer (Member # 458) on 07-14-2003, 08:59 AM:
 
Phil,

You left off the tolerance color code for the resistors.

GSN = GOLD SILVER NONE = Get Some Now
 

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Posted by Rick Long (Member # 213) on 07-16-2003, 11:19 PM:
 
"I left port" (Port, as we all know, is a red wine often consumed by underfunded sound technicians).
 

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Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 07-17-2003, 06:21 AM:
 
Yah, but nothing beats the name for Smart's SR mimicking card -- COPY CAT 222! Too cool!

Frank
 

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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-17-2003, 08:21 AM:
 
dbx called their "Type 1" noise reduction card that fit the Dolby Cat. 22 slot (in the various NR frames) the K-9 22.

Steve
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 07-17-2003, 08:55 AM:
 
Does all this humor mean that the list of Cat. Numbers is complete?
 

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Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 07-17-2003, 05:31 PM:
 

quote:

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dbx called their "Type 1" noise reduction card that fit the Dolby Cat. 22 slot (in the various NR frames) the K-9 22.

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K-9! The widowmaker!
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 07-18-2003, 09:18 PM:
 
Are all the cards from the CP50 there? Which one is the one that flips around and actually has two Cat. Numbers?
 

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Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 07-19-2003, 01:39 AM:
 
I had an original Cat 69, but a Cinemeccanica V5 ate it.

=TMP=
 

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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-20-2003, 02:56 PM:
 
The Cat. 116L is the one that flips around to do dual duty. The Cat. 115 only fit on one slot (where the Cat. 160 or 560 currently resides)

Steve
 

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Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 03-27-2005, 08:34 AM:
 

It has been 615 days since the last post.

 

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Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 03-27-2005, 08:34 AM:
 
I can add another one, though not a very interesting card:-

Cat. 134 Link card used in MPU-1 when Cat. 93 12 kHz. surround channel switch card not installed.

quote: Steve Guttag

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The Cat. 116L is the one that flips around to do dual duty.

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quote: Steve Guttag

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The Cat. 222SR/A only sold in CP65s, when new, since a theatre owner could save money. As an upgrade, you are correct, a pair of Cat. 350s is the cheaper and better solution.

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Steve, am I missing somethiing here? The cost diifference between the 222SR/A Vs. 2x 350 + 222A cards is only 40; not sure whether this list is in Pounds or Dollars, but it tends not to make much difference, the higher prices of most things here tend to make the fgures similar. Anyway, it's a very small amount. I can see that the 222SR/A would be more attractive price wise in a new processor than in an upgrade where a 222A was already available, but even in this case the difference is so small as to hardly be significant. Add to this the better sound quality with the Cat.350, and the possibility of being able to continue to run in stereo (A type) if a 350 fails until it can be repaired or replaced, and the 222SR/A does not look very attractive for a CP-65. Of course, if a Cat. 222 SR/A does fail in such a way as to be beyond repair, then the replacement cost will also be high, as would the cost of keeping a spare card in stock, much more so than a Cat. 350.

All this assumes that the difference in price of the cards was reflected in the price of new processors fitted wiith them. If Dolby fixed their prices in such a way that the 222SR/A option was much cheaper when purchased in a new processor then it would become more attractiive, but I can't see why they would want to do this. The 222SR/A is a very expensive card; if it had been much cheaper, say half the price that it is, then it could be an attractiive way for a cinema on a small budget to install SR, and I could see the point in it, but not at this price.

Am I correct in thinking that the 222SR/A is decode only? The 350 is encode/decode, albeit with encode disabled in the 'T' version. If this is the case, then surely it should have made the 222SR/A significantly cheaper; it just seems like a very overpriced card to me, even leaving out any difference in sound qualiity. I've only ever seen one, and only heard it through the monitor speaker in the box, so I can't really judge this. In what way does it sound different?

What is the Cat. No. 222B Two-channel IC based SR upgrade module?

The silk screening inside the front panel of the CP-65 says that the slots which normally hold the Cat. 350 cards can also take Cat. 300 for SR/A or Cat. 450 'A' type. I know about the Cat. 300 option for four channels of 'A' type for certain magnetic formats, but what is the 450 opton for? It would seem to give you four channels of 'A' type, but no SR. Given that SR already existed when the CP-65 was introduced, and quite rapidly became standard on new productons, it's diifficult to see why anybody would want this option.
 

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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 03-28-2005, 09:43 AM:
 
Welcome to the weird world of Dolby

The First CP65s (no suffix) had a pair of Cat. 350s and a Cat 222 for 2 channels of A and 2 channels of SR.

When the Cat. 222SR/A card came out, Dolby offered the option of the CP65/222. The US list price for that unit was $6,250.00. You could still get what was called the CP65 but now renamed the CP65/350 and it carried a list price of $7,260.00 or nearlly $1000 more (list). How did Dolby lower the price? Simple, there was now just the Cat. 222SR/A doing the job of the three former cards of Cat 222, and two Cat. 350s.

As an upgrade, you don't get the cost savings since upon installing a Cat. 222SR/A you now have a Cat. 222 that you can only use as a spare or try to sell (with virtually no market).

The Cat. 300 is a single channel A and SR encoder and Decoder.

The Cat. 350 is a single channel SR only encoder/decoder.

The Cat. 450 is a single channel A only encoder/decoder.

There never was a "T" version of the Cat 300 series cards, only for the Cat. 280.
 

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Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 03-28-2005, 03:17 PM:
 
Logic would seem to suggest that the 222SR/A should be significantly cheaper to produce than the alternative three cards, and the prices you quote for the two versons of the processor seems to confirm thiis.

If Dolby were able to offer $1000 difference in the price of the processors, but only a small diifference in the price of the cards on their own, and the rest of the processor is the same, then it sounds like they are charging a greatly inflated price for the Cat. 222SR/A card.

I still like the '65, it's a nice processor.
 

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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 03-28-2005, 05:13 PM:
 
You can't really equate things that easily. The Cat. 300 series of NR cards have application in all forms of NR, including recording studios, dubbers...you name it...in fact, they were not developed for Cinema, initially.

The Cat. 222SR/A has a much smaller market to choose from...just cinema and only from the low-end. As a result, it is a more expensive card to handle and support. Do I think the price is inflated on the CAt. 222SR/A? Sure, but that is business. They charged what they did because they could and many were sold to cinemas world-wide. I only fault them for pawning off a cascaded "S" circuit as "SR" when it doesn't measure nor sound like the real thing.
 

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Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 06-19-2012, 04:01 AM:
 

It has been 2639 days since the last post.

 

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Posted by Jim Henk (Member # 3628) on 06-19-2012, 04:01 AM:
 
Okay, when did the cat151 pink noise test film become the cat151b, and what was the difference? I saw a cat151 for sale for cheap, and now I'm wondering.
 

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Posted by Mateo Miranda (Member # 6898) on 06-19-2012, 07:16 AM:
 
Cat. 735 - Auditorium Assist Microphone
 

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Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 06-19-2012, 07:51 PM:
 
Jim, I suspect the 151B is the mylar version.
 

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Posted by Christos Mitsakis (Member # 143) on 06-20-2012, 11:01 AM:
 
Jim,
Cat151B uses band limited frequency pink noise which makes easier for a "by ear" subjective evaluation of the surround channel level. It was introduced, if I remember correctly, in the early '90s.

The original Cat151 has full frequency spectrum pink noise and as such it produces bass heavy front channels. This tricks the ear that the surrounds level is somewhat lower than the center channel and leads to unnecessary boosting from the processor.

Tony,
Yes, I presume the newer batches of Cat151b are on mylar base.

C.
 

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Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 06-20-2012, 06:39 PM:
 
Christos, Thank you for the information.

So there are two changes with the 151B.
 

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Posted by Lonny Jennings (Member # 365) on 06-20-2012, 10:36 PM:
 
I didn't see the Cat. No. 442 70mm switch for the CP65.
 

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Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 06-21-2012, 12:41 PM:
 
What is the deal with the cat. 384 edgecode reader? It is mentioned in some of the CP65 documentation and appears to be a device that was designed to read some sort of code printed on the edge of the film to tell the processor what sound format was used on the print.

Did this thing even exist? Did anyone buy one? Did any lab ever try printing the correct edge codes? It seems like a reasonable idea that should have caught on, but didn't.
 

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Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 06-21-2012, 12:53 PM:
 
It was a good idea that was stillborn.

Dolby had a lot of creative output, some stuck, some didn't. We always said that "a box will appear: SA2, Sa3, SA4 SA5. If it is a good idea, it disappears inside the next major unit." Certainly SR, surrounds, split surrounds come to mind.
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 06-21-2012, 01:30 PM:
 
...and SR-D...
...and (maybe) S-EX ?
 

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Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 06-21-2012, 06:59 PM:
 

quote: Scott Norwood

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What is the deal with the cat. 384 edgecode reader?

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Scott, it actually read barcode labels attached to the prints for all kinds of cues. The UA Theatre circuit used them, don't recall any other chain picking them up.

UA obviously did not follow what happened to AMC and SDDS
 

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Posted by Christos Mitsakis (Member # 143) on 06-22-2012, 02:22 AM:
 
Tony,
You're welcome
 

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Posted by Sam D. Chavez (Member # 1841) on 06-22-2012, 03:10 AM:
 
I was involved in the edge code project. I believe the more sophisticated version was Model 278. The one referenced in the 65 manual was a more basic idea to automatically cue an SR print.

The idea had a lot of potential but putting all resources into creating SR.D ended the project.

The idea was to actually print intelligent bar codes on the fly onto the actual release print so there would be a serial #, time code, scope, flat, start of credits; all sorts of stuff, an early attempt at metadata.

There were also printed cues to supplement the ones printed into the release print. There is actually one cinema still running on this system; Grand Lake in Oakland, CA.

The UA system was a competing and incompatible system based on a Symbol Technologies hand held bar code reader like the ones you see at retail stores.

It had a number of limitations, among them the critical flaw that scanner had to run continually looking for a taped on cue wearing out the laser mirror motor. The Dolby system was a simple slot reader that read the film as it passed by.

Ancient history now.
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 06-22-2012, 03:46 PM:
 
Those UA cues were too tenacious. Removing them was a pain.
 

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Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 11-15-2013, 07:18 AM:
 

It has been 510 days since the last post.

 

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Posted by Jock Blakley (Member # 6552) on 11-15-2013, 07:18 AM:
 
A few numbers that don't appear earlier (or earlier versions of ones listed earlier):

Cat. No. 64 Cinema Equalizer Module (CP50, CP200)
Cat. No. 108 Optical Pre-amplifier Card (CP50)
Cat. No. 110L Link Card (CP50)
Cat. No. 113 Automation Switch Card (CP50)
Cat. No. 150 Decoder Card (stereo with surround) (CP50, CP55, CP65)
Cat. No. 201 Magnetic Input Card (CP200)
Cat. No. 240 Optical Pre-amplifier Card (CP55)
Cat. No. 241 Surround Equalization and Optical Bass Extension Card (CP55, CP65)
Cat. No. 243 Control Logic Card (CP55, standard application)
Cat. No. 247 Front Panel Controls (CP55)
Cat. No. 249 Power Supply Module (CP55, CP65)
Cat. No. 250 Transformer Module (CP55)
Cat. No. 321 Automation Interface Card
Cat. No. 545 Automation Interface Adapter (CP45)
Cat. No. 630 Exciter Lamp Supply for Digital Sound Reader (Cat. No. 699)
Cat. No. 777 Front Panel Circuit Board (CP650)
Cat. No. 794 Dolby Digital Surround EX Decoder with Digital AES/EBU Input Board (CP650)

The Cat. No. 64B modules are also used in the CP55.
The CN 117 Remote Fader Card is also used in the CP50.
The CN 242 B-Chain Card is also used in the CP55
Official name for the CP65 CN 441 module is "Surround Equalization, Subwoofer, and SR-D Interface Card".
 

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Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 05-06-2019, 01:30 PM:
 

It has been 1998 days since the last post.

 

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Posted by David Boomsliter (Member # 10794) on 05-06-2019, 01:30 PM:
 
Cat. No. 868 Remote fader (CP750)

Of which I've been trying to find more information on... there's a manual but it doesn't show the circuit board interface cable connection that it references (missing figure 2). Not using the CP750 so working on the wiring to connect one to a Crestron Pro3 (via RS422) and use an external 15v DC power supply


 

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Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 05-06-2019, 05:56 PM:
 
It is a standard ethernet cable RJ45 connector. The CP750 has an RJ45 for the cable, they ship with a jack locking plug so one doesn't connect a network cable to it. I don'y know what that would do but since they bother with the lockout, it probably isn't good.
No clue on the communication protocol or command structure, I don't know if it's published. Not TCP/IP, at least.
 

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Posted by David Boomsliter (Member # 10794) on 05-06-2019, 08:09 PM:
 
Thanks for the response Dave. I understand it's an RJ45 connection, have the pinout from the CP750 manual which I'll attach here. Just can't find much data for the connection on the fader end..

Worst case I'll just figure it out once I get the fader in hand but would like to prepare ahead of time if possible.


 

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Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 05-07-2019, 12:25 PM:
 
The fader has an RJ45.
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 05-07-2019, 12:39 PM:
 
You forgot the cat666 (pitchfork module card with optional tinfoil shield, CP500).
 

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Posted by Jim Cassedy (Member # 4115) on 05-07-2019, 01:36 PM:
 
That pin-out looks like it follows the standard POE wiring plan,
which reserves pins 4&5 + 7&8 for power transport.
 

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