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Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 08-30-2003, 05:32 PM:

Today my company opened his new multiplex in Lausanne, Switzerland.
We proud of it, for his design and the technical equipement.
This saturday august 30, four days before the official opening, we showed reprise movies like: Apocalypse now (redux) / E.T. (20th anniversary issue) / Titanic / Casablanca / Jackie Brown / Grease / Life is Beautiful / The full Monthy, and other succes movies.
This week-end all the tickets wil be sold at $ 2.50 for a charrity foundation who help childern in hospitals.
I hope in a close future, submitting pics on the picture warehouse, and detailled explainations.
Here is a pic of the building:

This multiplex feature 7 auditoriums, 1958 seats, running Cinemeccanica V5 projectors, Dolby EX on all auditoriums, QSC amps, and JBL speakers.

Bye, and stay tuned for more pics !

Posted by Dan Lyons (Member # 1454) on 08-30-2003, 05:44 PM:

quote:
we showed reprise movies like: Apocalypse now (redux)

Do you happen to know if that was one of the new Dye Transfer prints?

Danny

Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 08-30-2003, 05:48 PM:

That picture looks seriously photoshopped to me. Somehow the relationship between the green cube and the older building seems strange. Are you sure they actually built the theatre?
If so, did you install CP650s with EX option? Do you have the QSC digital monitor/crossovers?

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 08-30-2003, 07:08 PM:

yeah the photo looks fake. Where the Europlex and the sky meet, it looks really rough.

and no 70MM screens?!?!

Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 08-30-2003, 07:16 PM:

I looked at the picture and thought the same thing too -- Photoshop -- but then I paused and thought back on all the photos I've seen of European vacations and realized that Europe just naturally looks Photoshopped.

By the way...we're getting ready to retire our first multiplex early next year and I've been toying with the idea of booking some of those fabulous older movies for the final week. I hadn't thought about the charity part though...I may steal that idea.

Great looking building...even if it is a phoney.

Posted by Carl Martin (Member # 1146) on 08-31-2003, 01:09 AM:

ok, so we've established that this new theater doesn't exist, and neither does europe. i'm going there in a few days and will give an update on its existence.

carl

Posted by Lionel Fouillen (Member # 1475) on 08-31-2003, 01:42 AM:

Nothing looks unnatural on this picture. The fact that a building like this multiplex was erected next to a house like that one is purely arguable on an aesthetic point of view.

The only fake element is Jean-Michel. He's a CGI. Next week they'll replace him by Simone. [Big Grin]

Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 08-31-2003, 09:42 AM:

You all are looking at the picture wrong. The Europlex is not flush with that swirly-painted building as it may appear. If you look by the entrance, the theater and the painted building are across the street from each other. The picture was taken from the fourth corner of an intersection.

See it? [Smile]

=TMP=

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 08-31-2003, 10:00 AM:

The perspective of the pic is correct but most of the vanishing points are obscured, causing the buildings to look out of place.

The building with the psychedelic paint job is hiding the VP of the theater and presenting its own and your eyes jump from one set of perspectives to the other. Look at all the lines in the buildings. What should be paralell, IS paralell.

Also, there's "mosquito artifacts" around the edges of objects and moiré effects on the benches.

It's probably a real picture but it is certainly "visually busy".

Posted by Gerard S. Cohen (Member # 994) on 08-31-2003, 10:14 AM:

Jean-Michel,

Thanks for posting the photo of your most attractive new theatre. I especially like the choice of fine old features, and the ticket pricing for charity on a WEEKEND!
It's good to see a management doing things right for a change...

Gerard

Posted by Ron Yost (Member # 1850) on 08-31-2003, 10:57 AM:

It looks like a very cold and unwelcoming place to watch a movie. Gee .. lets go watch a film in a box that looks like an iceberg.

I'd rather visit the colorful building. [Smile]

Ron Yost

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 08-31-2003, 11:00 AM:

Looks like a very attractive and appealing building to me wish it was in downtown toronto

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 08-31-2003, 11:13 AM:

Very nice, indeed.

Posted by Travis Hubrig (Member # 1745) on 08-31-2003, 02:39 PM:

I think the theatre looks natural in the picture, but all of the other buildings were added... along with the people...

Posted by John Anastasio (Member # 607) on 08-31-2003, 07:25 PM:

Bon Chance, Jean-Michel. I wish you well with the new house. I wish that I could be there to see it. I have pleasant memories of Geneva and Aix le Bains in the summer. Part of my family is from Basel, so I have a bit of Helvetic blood in my veins and I know that lots of Switzerland is a unique mixture of old and new.

Posted by Tom Wienholt (Member # 1510) on 08-31-2003, 11:30 PM:

There is nothing wrong with the picture, just with all who think there is. What would the motivation be to post a picture of a theatre that doesn't exist?

Posted by Mike Baer (Member # 1519) on 09-01-2003, 06:33 AM:

Hello Jean-Michel.
That´s great,a new Multiplex in Switzerland!(We have not many here.)I hope i can make it happen that i come to Lausanne to visit your new Building and perhaps the Booth.

Posted by Steven Privett (Member # 718) on 09-01-2003, 10:15 AM:

[ 10-03-2003, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: Steven Privett ]

Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 09-01-2003, 06:29 PM:

Gentlemen,
Am First I want to thank you for all your replies: I never imagined that an announcement of a new theater in my tiny Switzerland could interest a so large number of persons. Sorry for my weak English and my late answer, but You know my days are really busy for the official opening will be happen on September 3. But I will try to answer here to Yours interesting commentaries. Apologizes for my weak English, Thanks.
Dan: The “Apocalypse Now Redux” print was not a Dye transfer Print. I asked to the projectionist about that, and he told me that the print had a conventional silver-based analog soundtrack. I mean that Dye track print releases are scheduled for Europe later than the U.S, but I maybe wrong.

Michael, Ron: I assume that the pic is not Photoshoped. This effect comes maybe from the poor quality of my digital camera and the compression of the picture.
We don’t have a 70mm screen for various reasons: 70mm are not distributed in Switzerland. By the past only few movies was alvaibles, but 70mm prints are most expensive, more difficult to handle and the cost of these prints in Switzerland will be raised to ensure an deal of three different versions due to the three different languages in this country (German, French, Italian). The largest screen measure 18 mt (± 53 feet) and with the improvements of the projections lenses and curved projections traps, the picture on the screen look pretty well.
Michael: All of the seven houses featuring CP650 EX and QSC DCA Series, drive by a DCM (Digital Cinema Monitor) for each screens.

Manny: If You mean that Europe look naturally Photoshoped, I wanted to clear that way some mistakes made by architects ! [Smile]

Carl: I You want to go in Europe and see by Your eyes that this theater exists, just send me a private E-mail. I’ll be honored to show You the multiplex. Mike, You’re welcome too!
Lionel. Why do You mean I’m fake? And what mean “CGI” I don’t understand (You see, my English is really weak – I never understood about it in school.)

John: Thank You to wish me good luck in French; that really nice from You [Smile]

And Some explanation for those who doubt of the existence of the theater or doesn’t like the architectural aspect: You have to know that the area where the multiplex was build up, was, by the past an important “industrial zone” with factories, workshop and warehouses in center Lausanne in a place called “Le Flon” . From few Years this area will be converted in a “trendy” place with restaurants, bars, fashion and record shops, but the most parts of theses building was not destroyed, but renovated. Some dancing clubs are installed here: The colored building that you see on the right hand of the pic, are one of them, called “Le Moulin à Danse” (the windmill dance place) – sorry the translation is approximate, abbreviated “MAD” Is a place of the new “trendy” peoples who want to divert him. The building just on the left of the pic. Is “The Colonnade” a building with offices and a bar. Price to drink a Coke is really expensive. More than $ 2. – for a small can !
I’m agree with Ron to say that the building look cool like an Iceberg, but In Europe Peoples dint really like “fruity” colored multiplexes like they are made in US. Peoples prefer “bare” materials like steel, glass, and cider blocks. But At night the building looks nicer. Some optic fiber illuminate beyond the cold glasses. In few weeks I hope make better pictures of it and submitting for the picture warehouse.

Thanks again for all Your replies, and If You have the opportunity to make a Trip to Europe and Switzerland, and wish to visit a booth, just send me a mail. You’re welcome!

Best regards,

Posted by Antonio Marcheselli (Member # 373) on 09-01-2003, 06:39 PM:

Jean-Michel,

What about speakers used? I'm curious, can you give us more specs?

Don't worry, I spent months reading posts before understand technical words and US Slang... Aperture plate, booth, feature, BTW, IC... [Big Grin]

CGI is Computer Graphic... something!! It means that the image was digitally retouched.

So strange, an Italian guy explaining to a switzerland guy what an US word means!!!! [Cool]

Bye!
A

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 09-01-2003, 11:15 PM:

CG = Computer Graphics
CGI = Computer Generated Image

And now it's a Japanese/German guy explaining US acronyms to a French-speaking Swiss guy. [Big Grin]

I hope to see that theatre myself someday!

Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 09-02-2003, 02:06 AM:

quote:
The “Apocalypse Now Redux” print was not a Dye transfer Print. I asked to the projectionist about that, and he told me that the print had a conventional silver-based analog soundtrack. I mean that Dye track print releases are scheduled for Europe later than the U.S, but I maybe wrong.

'Dye Track' and 'Dye Transfer' (AKA 'IB Technicolor') are two completely different things.

All of the prints of 'Redux' were printed in the dye-transfer process. The giveaway would be that the soundtrack(s) are gray (like on a B&W print) rather than black or any other color.

-Aaron

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 09-02-2003, 11:27 AM:

Yes, Technicolor dye transfer (imbibition) prints would have B&W silver tracks for analog and digital tracks, with NO dye. Prints on Kodak, Fuji or Agfa incorporated coupler color print film would have either cyan+magenta+silver, or magenta+silver (high magenta) in the analog track.

Posted by Antonio Marcheselli (Member # 373) on 09-02-2003, 07:05 PM:

Ops! [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 09-03-2003, 07:20 AM:

Ooops, Sorry !
You see, my weak English it's a real pain for me [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Philippe Laude (Member # 79) on 09-03-2003, 07:49 AM:

Jean-Michel, the official languages in switzerland are FOUR
German, French, Italian and romansh(romanche).

Now a belgian guy telling a Swiss the truth about his own country!

Posted by Rick Long (Member # 213) on 09-03-2003, 11:28 PM:

Jean-Michel, I hope you had a GREAT official opening.

Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 09-04-2003, 12:53 PM:

Yes Philippe Your'e right,

I had forget to mention the Romanche language, shame on me !
But You know, so munch peoples ignore that language, and what I wrote before about the officials languages in Switzerland was only to explain how expensive could be an 70 mm issue of a print with three different languages.
IMO an international copy with the right DTS encoded language foreach region could be a good alternative, but in case of the DTS fail, that will be a nightmare !
About the East Switzerland where some peoples speak the Romanche Language, the theaters play all film in German...

Best Regards,

Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 09-05-2003, 06:35 PM:

Ciao Antonio !

Sorry for my late answer too, but I had to asked my chief to know exactly witch kind of speakers we use in this multiplex.

For the biggest screen (18 mt or 59 feets) we use three JBL 5674 tri-amplified speakers systems and six subwofffers (I don't remember if it was the JBL 4645C or 4642A)

For the medium auditoriums we use the JBL 4632 system and two 4642A Subwoffers

For the small auditoriums we use the JBL 4642A system and one 3632 Sub.

Every auditoriums use the JBL 8340 surround speakers.

All the amplifiers are QSC DCA series and a DCM processor.

I began today to take pictures of the equipement and I hope to be able to submit it to the picture warehouse soon.

Thank You all for Your interest [Smile]

Bye