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Posted by Chris Hipp (Member # 1788) on 01-23-2004, 09:34 PM:

I found a box full of something called an automation cue extender. I don't see anywhere that they are installed on my equipment. Anyone know what they are?

Posted by Travis Hubrig (Member # 1745) on 01-23-2004, 09:47 PM:

Is it possible that they extend the cue for the automation??? [Wink]

Actually I don't know.
Sorry for the waste of a post, I just thought it was funny.

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 01-23-2004, 09:55 PM:

Component Engineering makes a unit called "QX-10".

If your cue detector has three outputs you actually have 8 possible states. (7 different cues and 1 "no-cue" state.) If your automation has more than three functions controled by cues, the QX-10 will allow you to access more of them even though the cue detector only has three "guns".

Depending on the make/model of the unit you have it could be like the QX-10 or it could be a device that allows multiple trips of the detector to register as distinct cues:

1 cue going by the detector within one second (or some arbitrary length of time) equals one thing. 2 or more cues within that period of time equals another thing.

I've always imagined that the FM-35 could have something like 56 possible cue states if you stacked two sets cue patchess, one after another, about 10 frames apart. If only I could design the logic module to decode those states.

[Roll Eyes]

Posted by Carl Martin (Member # 1146) on 01-24-2004, 02:07 AM:

this just came up the other day when i was going over lists of booth equipment. supposedly we have a qx-10 but i didn't know what it was. what does it look like (is it just a card or something?) and where might it be mounted? in the ta-10?

if we have one of these, we don't seem to be using it.

carl

Posted by Ken McFall (Member # 845) on 01-24-2004, 06:00 AM:

If its the Component Engineering unit then you don't need it with the TA10 as it already expands the three available cue's to seven. If you visit their site you will see a picture of the unit.

Posted by Bevan Wright (Member # 1884) on 01-24-2004, 07:41 AM:

Cue expander (like QX-10) takes three cues and generates 7 possible outputs.

Cue extender (Kelmar made one) takes input from foil conduction type cue detectors (the ones that use foil tape to complete a circuit) and makes them constant duration output. Extenders are not needed with current proximity (optical or hall effect) detectors.

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 01-24-2004, 02:39 PM:

Kelmar also made a cue extender that decoded various foil placements as well