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Posted by Barbara Toriel (Member # 2616) on 08-10-2004, 10:58 PM:
 
The booth I am currently working in is begging for a new coat of paint, the short-term solution is posters, however it still will eventually need to be painted. I had heard that painting the booth a lighter shade actually affects film presentation. The walls are currently light salmon which I believe had been considered too light when it was painted. I was wondering if the paint on the walls really has considerable effect?
 
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 08-10-2004, 11:05 PM:
 
I wouldn't think that painting your booth walls a light color would have anything to do with film presentation unless you get the paint on the film. Our booth is pretty much a creamy white. Now bright lights shinning into an auditorium would cause a problem but that has nothing to do with paint.
 
Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 08-10-2004, 11:19 PM:
 
So a darker painted booth wouldnt attract more heat from the sunlight outdoors? I would assume more heat would cause stickier prints, thus affecting presentation.
 
Posted by Barbara Toriel (Member # 2616) on 08-10-2004, 11:32 PM:
 
I'm not sure why they had said it was an issue. White would be nice though... it would make the booth ALOT bigger. The lights are already covered with leftover black masking so that isn't an issue. And Mr. Fuentes... Ever heard of central air conditioning?
 
Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 08-10-2004, 11:37 PM:
 
quote: Barbara Toriel
And Mr. Fuentes... Ever heard of central air conditioning?
No. [Wink] , but how did you know that I prefer to be called Mr Fuentes?? Too bad the other jerks around here dont call me that!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 08-11-2004, 01:06 AM:
 
Issues with paint coloring are more of an issue in multipurpose venues with large glass windows (instead of ports), or in booths that just have a lot of lighting. A white booth will shine more light into the room, and a black booth won't.

"It really depends on your booth."

There are far too many booths, though, even with only 2 or 3 portholes, where lights on in the booth means lights visible on the screen. Film Done Wrong [Frown]

--jhawk
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 08-11-2004, 01:13 AM:
 
Yawn... [sleep]

>>>Phil
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 08-11-2004, 01:30 AM:
 
Old booths were often two tone institutional green
I favor battleship grey primmer
 
Posted by Greg Routenburg (Member # 1742) on 08-11-2004, 01:59 AM:
 
I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the impact of the colour on the mood of the person working in the environment. Dark colours tend to make things look dingy and people working in those conditions are often prone to depression and not being able to stay focused on their work. My personal preference would be probably a light grey or something which is along the lines of what Gord said I believe.
 
Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 08-11-2004, 02:06 AM:
 
Grey primer rocks! It beast the heck out of the caution yellow a few booths around here were painted until I had enough one day.
 
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 08-11-2004, 02:50 AM:
 
I think this topic came up before. I remember Tim Reed mentioning the old Loew's booths & the dark green paint. They painted dark green on the walls up to a line at the top of the sightlines looking from the auditorium into the booth, then white above that & on the ceiling. It was a good system; the dark color from the audience sightlines, & white everywhere else to increase efficiency of the general lighting in the booth.
 
Posted by Robert L. Fischer (Member # 2424) on 08-11-2004, 03:06 AM:
 
Paint it bright pink.
 
Posted by Ethan Harper (Member # 472) on 08-11-2004, 03:15 AM:
 
Paint it camoflauge. I plan on painting a mural of Phil Hill, Brad, and Joe doing various scenes from The Matrix in my booth sometime.
 
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 08-11-2004, 05:30 AM:
 
Light neutral or pastel colors are fine, with the exception of booths with very large ports or windows that would let reflected light spill on the screen. Saturated colors may affect your color perception. Dark colors can be dreary, and make it difficult to evenly illuminate the work area.
 
Posted by Phil Blake (Member # 2012) on 08-11-2004, 10:57 AM:
 
I agree with gordon , I was always lead to believe that darker colours were to go , most of the old boths I worked in were Flat Olive colour (a lighter olive that the army uses) This reduced booth light reflection , and well it was not all that unpleasant to work in.
 
Posted by Andrew McCrea (Member # 674) on 08-11-2004, 04:40 PM:
 
An old downtown FAMOUS PLAYERS theatre here had white (or very very light grey) walls. It also had dark grey carpeting. The lighting in the booth was a recessed down light above each platter (plus at the trailer shelves), a swive/threading light pointing at each projector and flouresecents above each projector. The flourescents were never used, and there was also a desk lamp at the make-up table. The was only one porthole (probably something like 16x24), plus a very tiny window for the slide projector.

It was easy to see around in this booth and didn't shine in the auditorium at all.
 
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 08-13-2004, 10:27 AM:
 
In one theatre there are no ports, just this huge window across the front of the booth. Makes it VERY difficult to work because ALL the light has to be very carefully controlled -- it isn't exactly soundproof either so you have to control you voice level....no cursing when you have a problem. You basically are working in the dark except for small winkie lights on the projectors and the racks. The booth had to be painted completely flat black. We started hanging posters on the back all just so you wouldn't get depressed from the total lack of color. Then we found that there was enough reflected light off the posters that you could make a shadow on the screen with your hand. They had to come down and they give is meds for the depression.

One thing that also must be considered along with light hitting the screen is light hitting the audience. In our big booth that does have traditional ports, we found that certain seats would get light spill from the ports. This is quite distracting to anyone sitting in those seats. It took some doing (metal shrowds around the projector work lights for better control) to eliminate it. There wall color in this booth is not an issue in terms of reflecting anything to the screen. We have baby blue for the walls to about five feet up and then it's white acoustic tile up the rest of the wall to the ceiling. The front wall however, is painted flat black up to the tile.

This booth has really bright overheads for non-show work, but during the show all the white light is directional and aimed only at the areas needed. However we borrowed something that is used in some live theatre control rooms -- for "show" condition, i.e., the actual running of a live show, the lighting and sound control rooms are flooded with a very deep blue light (I believe Rosco 85 gel). We have two flourescents high up in the 20ft ceiling that are geled and they fill the room with deep blue light; evidently this color, if it does inadvertantly make it to the stage (or screen) or seating area, is not nearly as distracting as white light. They are called "show blues."
 
Posted by Nicole Halper (Member # 2299) on 08-17-2004, 09:10 PM:
 
Wow- I have been contemplating this issue myself. See, I've only been working upstairs there for just under a year now,and the Yellow floor and Yellow walls are starting to get to me. Hmmm I was thinking a lighter shade of blue. It's not too depressing, and not to wild. Well, if we wanted wild- Hot Pink was my other idea (but considering we are down to 2 girls...I don't think they Like that idea too much) I would love to re-paint it though!
 
Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 08-17-2004, 10:27 PM:
 
Another issue with booth paint is the amount of reflection you might be dealing with when looking out the ports. Lighter wall colors would tend to be more distracting for you if the lights are on behind you. Darker walls and flat paint would be less distracting. Striking the balance is the challenge.

Up here, we had an owner that addressed the problem in his theatres by leaving the walls unpainted sheetrock. the ceilings are all open insulation with flat black fire retardant sprayed on... pretty attractive!
 
Posted by Joshua Waaland (Member # 287) on 08-23-2004, 12:44 PM:
 
The Cinemark booth I worked in had very light colored tan walls. See booth pictures in picture warehouse. Cinemark Macedonia 15.

We didn't have any problems with reflection from the walls as we only really used the track lighting above the projectors to see while we threaded. Otherwise the lights stayed off. The lighter walls make it easier to navigate in the darkness through the booth. The minimal amount of light that is reflected makes it easier to see than with darker walls. Also we had light colored tiles which helped in this aspect. I liked the way it looked. I felt like the lighter colors made it seem much cleaner, bigger and uncluttered.

I worked in a booth with the grey walls before and it was much darker, dreary and dingy looking. Just my opinion.
 




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