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Posted by Tommie Evans (Member # 2674) on 09-28-2004, 02:06 PM:
 
I am having problems with a Christie platter . The film feeds on loosly (you can wobbly the layers of film in the roll) and when feeding out again is subject to static and forms an inward bump in the print.
I have re-timed the platters by following the instruction manual closely and all LED/LDR, Intensity and control cards have been re-newed. I believe the problem is the platter arm return springs. Do I replace them or cut them shorter so they are under more tension? The platter is over 7-years old now , would it be best to simply replace all three arm springs and also the springs for the feed control arms.

The problem occurs on all three decks, so is there adequate electrical grounding on the system - if not how and where do I check?
 

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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-28-2004, 03:06 PM:
 
What is the year date of manufacture? Also, have you tried running a different print on it?
 

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 09-28-2004, 03:10 PM:
 
Your really loose rolls sounds more like a tensioning problem, but it may be making the payout very sensitive to slight static charges between the laps of film.

Before Kodak introduced KODAK VISION Color Print Film with its transparent conductive antistatic layer or Brad introduced FilmGuard, I wrote the following article to help theatres deal with "static cling":

Help for Static Cling

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KODAK: Help for Static Cling - Print Friendly Version
Help for Static Cling
Question: Last winter, we had a lot of problems with static cling, where the
film tends to stick together as it goes into the "brain" of the platter. We had a
few jams, and even had the last reel of the print slide off the platter when the
speed got out of control. What can be done to control this problem?
Answer: First, use an accurate digital humidity gauge to measure the relative
humidity in the projection room. (Radio Shack and Edmund Scientific have
suitable digital hygrometers for less than $30). Adjust the HVAC or use
portable evaporative humidifiers to keep the humidity between 50 and 60
percent. Don't use humidifiers that actually spray water droplets into the air,
as they will leave behind a white dust from the minerals that are in tap water.
Be sure all equipment is properly grounded. Generally, platters and film
handling equipment with conductive surfaces are less prone to static buildup
(measure resistance to ground with an ohmmeter). Treat non-conductive
materials (painted or anodized platter surfaces, plastic rollers, etc.) with Static
GuardTM or other anti-static chemicals to increase conductivity. In extreme
cases, the print itself can be treated with Static Guard. Some projectionists
have found that active ionization units (e.g., Kinetronics StaticVac TM Film
Cleaner, Staticmaster TM brushes, or corona discharge ionizers from Simco or
Meech) are effective in controlling static build-up on the film. The best place to
use them is between the projector and the platter take-up, so static is
removed just prior to windup.
We have found that winding orientation can affect how easily the film pulls an
adjacent lap into the "brain" of the platter, depending upon the curl of the
film. If you normally wind the film on the platter with the soundtrack side up,
try winding it with the soundtrack side down (or vice-versa). Static cling is
usually most apparent during the later reels of longer pictures, since the film is
coming off the inside of the feed roll at a very shallow angle, allowing static to
attract adjacent convolutions of film. That is why long movies are most
affected.
Kodak has always recommended the use of a tension-sensing fail-safe that
shuts down the projector in the event of a platter jam or brainwrap. Always
use sufficient platter clips (suction cups) around the outside of the feed roll to
prevent it from getting off center or sliding off the platter due to "static fling."
Another device that helps prevent film jams and sliding film rolls is the Non-
Slip Platter Disk (patent applied for), sold by Projection Technology, Inc.
(phone: 516/576-0767). This unique invention by projectionists Stuart Boritz,
Edmund Nardone, and Andrew Fetherman fits on the platter surface, and
although it doesn't eliminate static cling, it helps separate the film laps if they
stick together, and provides a non-slip surface so the film roll doesn't slide.
The best news is that Kodak has just introduced two new color print films
which feature an anti-static backing layer. We are working with film
laboratories to incorporate an anti-static process additive in the final rinse of
the process. Testing shows that the combination of the new films and antistatic
process additive will almost com-pletely eliminate "static cling." The new
Kodak Vision print films also reduce static attraction of dirt to the film, so
prints should stay cleaner. Projectionists will also welcome the elimination of
annoying static "shocks" as they wind and handle film during inspection and
make-up onto the platter.

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