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Posted by Alain LeTourneau (Member # 2175) on 10-22-2004, 10:43 PM:

Please help circulate the following petitions.

For continued production or reformulation of Eastman 7361:

http://www.40framesdirectory.org/petitions/kodak02/

For creating E6 process Eastman 7250 and 7399:

http://www.40framesdirectory.org/petitions/kodak01/

Regards,
Alain LeTourneau
Pamela Minty

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 10-22-2004, 10:56 PM:

I have been forwarding the comments posted on other user groups to the key decision makers for these low volume product lines.

It would be interesting for each person signing the petition to indicate how much of each film they purchased in the last year, as much of the use may have been "over the counter", or through a third party dealer.

Required reformulation of the discontinued films are major projects, each going well above six figures, and sometimes into the millions of dollars.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 10-23-2004, 05:04 AM:

John...has Kodak decided to discontinue just the motion picture stocks or has Ektachrome slide film also been discontinued?

Likewise for Kodachrome (Film designed by devine intervention).

Steve

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 10-23-2004, 10:59 AM:

Come on, Steve. Kodachrome was a joint effort of Man & God. (Mannes & Godowski)

I fear for Kodachrome but on the plus side it's probably a relatively simple film to make just horrendous to process and they've already farmed out the lab end of it.

With regard to the petitions, it would seem reasonable to offer 16mm MP versions of E6 stocks made for other markets. I would think there would be enough demand to justify slitting and perfing some; that can't be a huge investment.

On the B&W I don't know what is done to optimize a B&W emulsion for reversal processing so I have no idea how hard it would be to keep that in the market. B&W seems like a simple thing. Maybe not.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 10-23-2004, 11:46 PM:

quote: Steve Kraus
B&W seems like a simple thing. Maybe not.

Last year's reformulation of Tri-X and Plus-X B&W reversal camera films was NOT a "simple thing", and took over a year and dozens of costly experimental coatings to develop.

Kodak B&W Camera Reversal Films

quote:
Reversal camera films designed to capture the full range of contrast and more of the subtle gradations between full, rich blacks and crisp, clean whites. From minimization of grain and the addition of EASTMAN KEYKODE Numbers, to higher speeds without grain penalty, our new films are better than ever. They're designed to reduce static, resulting in cleaner images from origination to print. And an improved bleach process eliminates use of heavy metals and creates less precipitate in the tank. Making the film more environmentally friendly and easier to maintain.

There are only a handful of labs that still process KODACHROME film. [Frown]

The color reversal motion picture films being discontinued are the VNF films:

VNF Films Discontinued

quote:
This decision has not been taken lightly and is brought about by two fundamental reasons. Kodak’s proactive
environmental strategy calls for the elimination of several component parts in these products and falling sales
volume due to lack of demand. Unfortunately, this combination of factors prohibits our ability to enter into a
research and development program to re-engineer these products. You can imagine, we are very disappointed to
have to make this decision.

VNF Films

The EKTACHROME films for process E-6 continue to be available. Indeed, there is a motion picture reversal film specifically designed for process E-6 (i.e., it is not simply slit from an EKTACHROME still film):

KODAK EKTACHROME 100D 5285/7285

quote:
KODAK EKTACHROME 100D - 5285/7285
Now you have a 100-speed color reversal motion picture film designed for daylight. Whether you're shooting ads, music videos, documentaries, television, or features, it delivers intensely saturated color, plus a neutral gray scale and accurate skin tones. All with a sharpness you won't find in any other 100-speed reversal film.