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Posted by Mike Amici (Member # 2939) on 01-19-2005, 01:11 PM:
I realize that i posted a similar question about a week earlier, but after re-reading it i've found that i did not describe the problem correctly. so here goes:
the cp 6500 on #8 is reverting to Dolby sr (ch5) at feature start, it's not simply faulting out: it just switches to ch5 and stays there. The feature is certainly encoded for Dolby digital (ch10) and switching it back will fix it. Any ideas as to what might be causing this
Posted by Ferdinando Innocenti (Member # 2477) on 01-19-2005, 03:19 PM:
Is it possible that your CP has the auto-digital option disabled?
Ciao
Nando
Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 01-19-2005, 03:50 PM:
Even if Auto Digital is disabled, once Format 10 (note it's format, not channel, it's a cinema processor, not a radio) is selected, that plays no role. If the automation actually selects 10 or Auto Digital is enabled (to check this, press the menu button and it will say on the screen what the status is. If desired, you can change it with the volume control knob and then press OK to save the new setting). You have to check if the automation actually selects Format 05 or 10. If 10 is selected, it will revert to 05 if the error rate is too high, and return to 10 if enough good data are available again. However, the processor records the errors, and when too many errors occur, it will stay in 05. Pressing any format button will clear the error memory for a fresh start.
Since it appears you are experiencing these problems with this print only, you either have too many badly printed data on the first reel or your print is damaged.
Posted by Robert John Jeromson (Member # 2559) on 01-19-2005, 06:04 PM:
If your automation is set to run format 5 with auto digital enabled in the cp650 and, provided the processor can see enough data it should engage format 10 automatically.
If your print is buggered and you want to run exclusivley in SR I would reccommend an automation setting to format 5 and disabling the auto digital.
The auto digital setting is three options into the menu, check this is enabled first and then make sure your automation is set to engage format 10.
Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 01-19-2005, 07:37 PM:
What do you mean by "feature start"? If you have automation and there's a cue at trailer end/feature start you may have a wiring error or programming error that is telling the CP650 to go to format 05 then. If not, maybe there's a "feature presentation" snipe with digital sound? Those are often re-used so many times that the digital track degrades severely. Because playing in 05 SR will be less annoying to the audience that repeatedly switching between 05 SR and 10 SRD throughout the show, the processor stops switching to digital after a few (10-20?) such events (I forget the exact number).
Posted by Ferdinando Innocenti (Member # 2477) on 01-20-2005, 01:57 AM:
quote:
Dave wrote:
"the processor stops switching to digital after a few (10-20?) such events (I forget the exact number). "
Are you sure? how much is the interval in which the (few) events must happen?
Ciao
Nando
Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 01-20-2005, 02:08 AM:
No, it seems to me that David is "not sure" as can be read from his formulation "I forgot the exact number". But what both he and I are sure about is that the processor does indeed refrain from switching between digital and analog from a certain point onward to avoid the annoying effect of switching all the time. Like I said, the error memory can be cleared by re-selecting any of the formats. It would really help the discussion if you would actually read what others write, Signore Innocenti, including my comments about the Auto Digital Feature.
Posted by Ferdinando Innocenti (Member # 2477) on 01-20-2005, 02:20 AM:
Sorry, Michael, I read your comments, but you said "too many errors". Dave said to have forgotten the number. I like to know how many events must happen in a certain interval to make the CP650 stay in format 05 if auto digital is enabled.
Ciao
Nando
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