Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Need To Have Replacemwnt Prints of Our Litter Trailer Made

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Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 12-14-2005, 05:35 PM:

We run 50 second trailer that we need additional copes made of. No negative is available. What we have to have it duped from is an unused print. Any suggestions about who can do this for us, and what would be the least expensive process---I've been told that a reversal print would not require an internegative?? The print is flat, is an anomorphic copy possible even is it didn't fill the full screen, this would eliminate the manual lens change between the trailer and the feature. Cost? Any suggestions?

Posted by Steve Scott (Member # 630) on 12-14-2005, 05:57 PM:

If you're not too attached to that particular snipe, have a look at www.drive-infilm.com They have some great stuff, and its reasonably priced.

Posted by Richard Fowler (Member # 893) on 12-14-2005, 06:47 PM:

Unfortunately...reversal print film, used for dirty dupes and workprints, the emulsion postion is opposite from regular print stock, requiring refocus during projection. Reversal also has higher contrast and you may not like what you get.....

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 12-14-2005, 09:49 PM:

I had this done a few years ago with some home movies shot in the 1940s on 16mm reversal. Magno Lab-Link in NYC made a 16mm IN, then a 16mm print. The quality was fantastic and the new print looks better than the original in many ways (the wet gate IN helped fill in some light scratches). Figure on spending upwards of $1/foot for the IN.

Since the Byrd snipe has a soundtrack, it will need to be re-recorded to mag film or DAT and a new 35mm sound negative will need to be made. I believe that Trackwise in NYC can do this or at least they should be able to point you to someone who can.

Scope prints would require optical work and I'm sure it would be even more expensive. Metropolis Film Lab in NYC does optical printing, but I don't know if they can do the anamorphic squeeze.

(BTW, let me know if you do this and could have an extra print made--I'd buy one for my own collection.)

Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 751) on 12-15-2005, 08:39 AM:

Yes, Metropolis Film Labs can do anamorphic. They did custom snipes for us at the Landmark Loews Jersey.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 12-15-2005, 10:37 AM:

You could "shop around" for a lab willing to make copies:

http://www.acvl.org/members.htm

If all you have is a good print, and you now want both flat and anamorphic versions, you might consider having the lab scan the print to make a "digital intermediate", from which both flat and anamorphic duplicate negatives can be generated for making prints. The soundtrack would be played on a reader, recorded, and then a new sound negative made.

It will be expensive.

The least expensive way would be to make an internegative by contact printing, but it would not change formats, and would not have optimum steadiness. Sound would still need to be transferred to a new sound negative for printing.