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Posted by Bastiaan Fleerkate (Member # 3826) on 03-31-2007, 08:22 AM:

Mr. Bean's Holiday shows a projection booth at the end of the movie. I have just a few questions about that. There is a Kinoton 35mm projector tilted up instead of down. Is this because this is a flaw in the movie or is there an explanation for this (behind screen projection) and does somebody know where this booth (and cinema) are located?

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 03-31-2007, 01:27 PM:

Is it a drive-in?

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 03-31-2007, 01:35 PM:

And there are some (not many I imagine) indoor booths situated such that the projector(s) point upwards to the screen, much like a drive-in. The El Capitan in Hollywood is an example.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 03-31-2007, 07:48 PM:

There are even some booths that aim any which way and the image goes to screen through mirrors.

Posted by Bastiaan Fleerkate (Member # 3826) on 03-31-2007, 07:55 PM:

quote: Chris Slycord
There are even some booths that aim any which way and the image goes to screen through mirrors.

I think this is the most logical explanation... it is not like a drive-in and it is most probably filmed in Cannes. But I hope there is someone that can give me more information. It's just a nice (and clean) looking booth with Kinoton 35mm, Kinoton Digital projector, Dolby CP65.

Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 04-01-2007, 02:06 PM:

There are continuity errors in the scene which lead me to believe that while it may be a real booth, it's at least been setup for the scene. In the first shot, the 35mm and DLP are not even aimed at the same place. In the second shot, the 35mm isn't even in the same place and is aimed differently and the 35mm is just spooling film onto the floor.

Posted by Kenneth Wuepper (Member # 1174) on 04-01-2007, 02:09 PM:

Looks like a booth under distruction!

Posted by William Phillips (Member # 1162) on 04-02-2007, 04:41 AM:

Just saw that scene in the film. It looks like the 35mm projector is on a strange base and if it was pushed forward would be pointing at the screen not the roof. Maybe for easy access ????

Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 04-02-2007, 02:00 PM:

The first picture looks like a Kinoton Digital Projector!!
The second picture !!???? I can not tell
Demetris

Posted by Alban Birch (Member # 4121) on 04-02-2007, 02:43 PM:

I think it's a FP30

Posted by Brian Guckian (Member # 1678) on 04-02-2007, 03:22 PM:

I think I can get the info. I know a company that did some work on that picture. Additional equipment did have to be supplied. Leave it with me...

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 04-02-2007, 04:51 PM:

Remeniscent of when Mr. Bean re-tuned the ride film equipment for "more excitement in the ride".

Mark

Posted by Brian Guckian (Member # 1678) on 04-03-2007, 07:59 AM:

Got the information for you, Bastiaan.

The main location used was a Preview Theatre in Paris. They needed to shoot some additional inserts later (elsewhere) and for this they hired in an FP30D (supplied by Avcom Ltd., London) which matched one in the Paris location.

No special projection arrangements were reported, thus I think the machine was tilted because it was meant to be a "crazy" projection booth if you like, for the purposes of the story. It was not meant to be realistic in any way.

It does look like a major continuity error in having one shot with the machine at a "crazy" angle, but the other with the machine vertical. But it depends on the duration of the latter shot I guess and the way it was shot (pan / track, etc.).

Hope that helps.

Posted by Bastiaan Fleerkate (Member # 3826) on 04-03-2007, 08:17 AM:

Thanks for the info!

Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 04-08-2007, 12:35 PM:

An another error in this scene:
If You watch closely, you can see two Dolby CP65 in the soundracks, right ? and You can ear the sound of the "Artistic Movie" running during the scene.
But one of the CP65 is in format 10 and "Mute" mode and the another is in bypass mode ! LOL
Maybe the local tech of this theater wanted to exagerate "the crazy booth" argument...

[ 04-08-2007, 01:46 PM: Message edited by: Jean-Michel Grin ]

Posted by Rick Raskin (Member # 1561) on 04-08-2007, 06:47 PM:

Wow!

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 04-08-2007, 06:48 PM:

It's all depending on how authentic the director wants it to look. A film crew was shooting a documentary about our theatre in Brooklyn's Prospect Park, and the director had three of her crew hoist the equipment up to the top of the tower with the interviewer to ask me about our operation. She wanted to see the screen, the audience, the projector and me, all in the same shot. She had me sit on the floor with my head level with the soundhead, the soundhead door opened and the film running. I explained that anyone who knows about 35mm projectors would know that you don't operate them from that position; I told her it would just look silly, not to mention how silly I felt sitting there. She assured me it would look fine. Authenticity seemed to be out the window.

On the other hand, when they cut it and the piece was done, it actually didn't look to bad. Guess that's why she's the filmmaker and I'm the projectionist.

Posted by Marin Zorica (Member # 1716) on 04-12-2007, 12:28 PM:

If You have DLP projector........did You gonna put CP-65 in Cannes?

Also...can some cheap portable home camera can be easily attached to DLP? ;-)

Posted by Fabrice Dubourg (Member # 1635) on 04-14-2007, 12:34 PM:

put a camcorder on a D-cinema projector is not as easy as you can see in the film, you need to add a scaler, after you can also play with you X-box if you want.
they used a fp30 and a dcp70 supplied by TACC, the french supplier of kinoton in france.
this scene was filmed in the studio la victorine in Nice.

Posted by Brian Guckian (Member # 1678) on 04-15-2007, 05:29 PM:

Just to confirm that Fabrice's information is correct. The preview theatre in Paris I cited earlier must have been used for the pick-ups.

(I got a Kinoton press release on this just a few days ago and was going to put the correction up...too slow!)

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 05-13-2007, 06:07 AM:

http://www.kinoton.com/pdf/pr_mr-bean_e.pdf