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Posted by Thomas Hauerslev (Member # 566) on 04-01-2008, 01:39 AM:
 
A rare finding from Italy, which will go on display in Karlsruhe's Schauburg cinema (Germany) in October.
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 04-01-2008, 04:49 AM:
 
A very interesting find. Reminds me of the ill-fated SpectreVision process, developed by Dr. Bob Buggard of the American Albion Corporation in the 1960s. His idea was to use a liquid gate and a complex series of prisms to enable a super 8 reversal original to be blown up to 70mm with no increase in grain size or loss of picture quality, thus slashing production costs and revolutionising artistic possibility. Unfortunately the system never caught on, thanks largely to union resistance in Hollywood (i.e. fears over technicians' jobs) and a smear campaign mounted by film stock manufacturers. The French New Wave experimented with it briefly, notably in Charles-Pierre le Legume's existentialist classic Ma Nuit avec un pamplemousse (1971), but sadly this process sank into the the history books and was never heard of again.
 

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Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 04-01-2008, 06:47 AM:
 
I believe the DP-70 device was based upon studies made by the great Professor I. Lirpa, who also used the readily available steampipe system in New York City to develop a steam driven projector in the late '40's. He also developed a triple-Cinerama type system where three projectors were aimed at each of the three areas of the Cinerama screen. He called the system CineCineRamaRama. Unfortunately, it died an early death as it required a crew of almost 18 operators for each performance, and there were so many injuries from the operators tripping over each other that the Workmen's Compensation bills were no longer affordable.

[ 04-01-2008, 09:07 AM: Message edited by: Mark Lensenmayer ]
 

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Posted by Joshua Waaland (Member # 287) on 04-01-2008, 08:52 AM:
 
Would love to see more photos of this Thomas.
 

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Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 04-01-2008, 09:28 AM:
 
Isn't it always dangerous to follow potential remarkable solutions to previously unsolvable problems to far on April 1?

The clue might be in the last line: "Color spectrum is also enhanced when you drink a decent amount of beer at the same time."
 

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Posted by Richard Fowler (Member # 893) on 04-01-2008, 10:06 AM:
 
Danish beer results more brilliant colors that American brands
 

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Posted by Jim Cassedy (Member # 4115) on 04-01-2008, 12:58 PM:
 
I'm always very suspicious of anything I read on April 1st.
Almost every year I used to get fooled by the gag projects or articles that appeared in the April issue of either Popular Electronics or Popular Science. (can't remember which) Does anyone else remember these? I'd look forward to them every year. I think this "discovery" falls into that category.
(But ya almost had me.... )
 

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Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 04-01-2008, 02:28 PM:
 
I tried to do this with one of the pro-35's, but the manager informed me I was causing the lights in his office to dim, and to please stop that NOW.
 

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Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-01-2008, 02:32 PM:
 
So, does anybody know how much colorizing fluid that machine uses for every hour of film?

Considering that there are cyan, magenta, yellow and black fluids (I assume) that's four reservoirs that have to be refilled on a regular basis.

I suppose the stuff comes in 5 gallon buckets. Right?

And, for a commercial theater, they must go through 5 or 10 55 gal. drums of the stuff in a week!
 

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Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 04-01-2008, 02:47 PM:
 
You mean no one is using Bag In The Box coloring fluid?
 

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Posted by Ben Wales (Member # 92) on 04-01-2008, 03:59 PM:
 

quote: Leo Enticknap

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His idea was to use a liquid gate and a complex series of prisms to enable a super 8 reversal original to be blown up to 70mm with no increase in grain size or loss of picture quality

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And here is a picture of that process with a Projection Lens that convert your Super 8mm films to 70mm size.....


 

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Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 04-01-2008, 04:06 PM:
 
Oh...wait....didn't I see this at ShoWest about 20 years ago where they said 8mm film could replace 70mm? Louis
 

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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 04-01-2008, 04:23 PM:
 

quote: Leo Enticknap

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...His idea was to use a liquid gate and a complex series of prisms to enable a super 8 reversal original to be blown up to 70mm with no increase in grain size or loss of picture quality...

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quote: Jim Cassedy

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Almost every year I used to get fooled by the gag projects or articles that appeared in the April issue of either Popular Electronics or Popular Science. (can't remember which) Does anyone else remember these?

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I remember some from Popular Electronics. There was the telephone handset wired so that you could talk to yourself (personally, I've never needed the telephone handset to be able to talk to myself). There was the logic probe that used a flash bulb as an indicator, it only worked once, but you couldn't miss it. Then there was the solar powered night light, for those nights when the sun was shining bright enough to make it work (no, it did not include a rechargeable battery).
 

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Posted by Per Hauberg (Member # 529) on 04-05-2008, 09:32 AM:
 
Du est en slyngel og en bandit, Unge Mand.
Tænk at lokke brave F-Tere på sådan noget. Fejrer de overhovedet den foerste i fjerde derovre som vi gør det ?
Er du i Imperial 24/7 sidst på måneden ? -I så fald ses vi lørdag til sang og musik.

All the best og alt det der

Per
 

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-05-2008, 02:36 PM:
 
The Krispy Kreme in Billings announced it was closing that day. I thought maybe it was an April Fool joke to drum up publicity, but alas it was true. No more Hot Doughnuts Now! in Montana.
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 04-05-2008, 05:26 PM:
 
Per / Thomas - please put me out of my misery! I recently visited a very dear friend who moved to the Faroe Islands, in preparation for which I bought 'The Rough Guide Phrasebook - Danish'. I needn't have bothered - the indigenous language is really Faroese, which is effectively a dialect of Icelandic (not to mention fluent English, the technical accuracy of which would embarrass most natives of England). I think Per's post is asking Thomas if he's been at the Imperial Bio 24/7, and thus so absorbed in 70mm that he's failed to realise that the music (of analogue cinema) has stopped ... but here's me putting my head in the jaws of guillotine and about to reveal how dreadful the English are at understanding the languages of their neighbours, I guess!
 

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Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 07-09-2011, 07:19 PM:
 

It has been 1190 days since the last post.

 

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Posted by Per Hauberg (Member # 529) on 07-09-2011, 07:19 PM:
 
Hi, Leo

Sorry for not seeing Your question before now....
Danish is, as far as I've been told, very cruel to understand for any foreigner.
My german tech, when I complain over my german or english, allways comforts me, telling me, that my german is better than his danish...
My post for Thomas was especially cruel to outsiders, as it was filled with inside jokes, as was Thomas' start for this tread.
I don't know if You are doing the same stuff, as we are in Denmark, telling the most horrible lies every year on april, 1st. As I do not know, if this is common in all Film-Tech nations, I am telling Thomas to be ashamed, doing this tread, and at the same time, asking him wheater his is going to stay in Copenhagen Imperial theatre 24/7 for as long as the year's 70mm festival. If so, we should meet for "Sound of Music".
And that's all...
"SOM" was a brand-new 70mm DTS - pure joy to watch again, even after running it myself so very many times (latest was winter 1980). (70mag, though)

All the best

Per
 

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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-09-2011, 08:23 PM:
 
Google translate has gotten scary good...it even detects the language something is written in. Below is how it translated the Danish. I don't doubt that it not perfect but the bulk of the meaning seems to come across:

"You're a rogue and a villain, young man.
Think to entice brave F Tere on something. Celebrating they possibly the first in the fourth over there as we do?
Are you in the Imperial 24 / 7 end of the month? -In that case we'll see you Saturday for singing and music."

What do you think, Per?

All the best and all that
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 07-19-2011, 08:45 AM:
 
Thanks, Per. By pure coincidence I was in Copenhagen only the week before last! I was just about starting to pick up the odd phrase on the TV by the time I left, but it was still a struggle.

We do April fools here, too - here is one I posted on a film archivists' email list. In jokes: with reference to the name of the fictional Russian inventor, 'bugger off' is an insult in slang British English (basically, telling someone to go away and leave you alone, but in stronger language), while 'sozzled' means drunk.
 

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Posted by Per Hauberg (Member # 529) on 07-26-2011, 04:52 PM:
 
Steve: Everything seems pretty close to, what I wrote in danish. -And the adjectives about my old friend Thomas are most precise ! ;-)
Danish humor is (we think, at least) rather special, allthough not always looking as loveable to outsiders as is normally is meant. But most danes understand it, though, and noone takes anything too seroius. -Maybe except those many foreigners, coming here as covenience refugees, and trying to make our happy, little land as dark in mind as the places, they run away from. They don't want to understand us - they just want our goods. -And that, someday, will be the beginning of the Third World War. Hopefully, I won't be around any more, when the day comes !

But right now, we will forget about them, and look foreward to the first of April, 2012.

Leo: I sure do like Your Mr Buggaroff !


 

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