Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Rewinding media

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Posted by Ron Curran (Member # 3631) on 06-22-2008, 01:34 AM:

Is there any reason why we couldn't rewind the Film-Tech media on the Kelmar while end credits are running? The cleaner would then be ready for the next show.

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 06-22-2008, 01:46 AM:

Glue a rewinding core onto the end of a short piece of dowel rod and chuck it up in a screw gun!

You'll be able to rewind the media in ten seconds flat!

[Big Grin]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 06-22-2008, 02:37 AM:

It is difficult to do when the movie is running. The takeup once loosened will dump the media. Not a good idea.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-22-2008, 05:50 AM:

What would be the advantage of rewinding it a few minutes early?

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 06-22-2008, 01:27 PM:

I've rewound it during the credits sometimes. Usually it's when I'm working both boxoffice and booth, and it saves a minute of "ticket selling time" not to have to rewind the cleaner after threading. (I've also rewound it while the trailers are running, on that rare occasion I've forgotten to do it while threading!)

What I do is, as I'm rewinding, I use the middle finger of my left hand to keep the takeup side from unspooling. I just rest the left middle finger against the media lightly while manipulating the rewinding core with my thumb and forefinger of both hands - it doesn't take much pressure to hold it from moving.

Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 06-22-2008, 02:24 PM:

We rewind ours 'on the fly', all the time. some film combos are too long for the new media rolls... and I sometimes just forget. As Mike says, you just have to keep a little finger tension on the takeup spool.

Posted by Ron Curran (Member # 3631) on 06-23-2008, 12:00 AM:

Thanks Mike and Jack. Tried it a couple of times now and it works well.

Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 06-23-2008, 07:34 PM:

I just carry a media rewinder core in my pocket.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 06-23-2008, 08:00 PM:

Ah...I thought you were just happy to see us. [Wink]

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-23-2008, 08:55 PM:

I keep a core by each projector. I would keep them by the platter but I can't mount the cleaners on the platters.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 06-30-2008, 05:28 PM:

My 2 cent solution to pesky manual rewinding.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-30-2008, 05:43 PM:

Nice, 'cept you'd need to switch drill directions since they don't both rewind the same way unless you follow Kelmar's threading diagram for the media (which is inferior).

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 06-30-2008, 05:50 PM:

How do you thread it Joe? Drill Direction Swapping (DDS) is no problem.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-30-2008, 06:02 PM:

Like this:

Without the caps and blurrier just for fun:

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 06-30-2008, 06:09 PM:

Yes, the EZ2RW/DDS system would be appropriate for this method. [Wink]

What's the benefit in winding it that way? I admit I've done it that way in the past also but in the end went with the EZ2RW system just to keep it the same.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-30-2008, 06:30 PM:

Use your logic... you tell me what the benefit would be! (This is what I do with trainees, make them tell me what's wrong or why something is the way it is. I learn lots of things that way while looking smart at the same time).

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 06-30-2008, 07:51 PM:

Well, it was mentioned to me that in another complex operators were forgetting to rewind the media and just going again...meaning the media was running out half way through a show.

If you came off the top roll as a 'B' wind and the bottom as an 'A' wind, that would stop the adhesive from contacting the film, but not the roller so the benefits would be negligible as the adhesive residue would still go all over the roller.

But, as you do the opposite, (top 'A' wind and bottom 'B' wind) both reels would have the adhesive coming into contact with the print so that can't be it.

Is there a correct side and an incorrect side to the media? They seem the same to me.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-01-2008, 02:13 AM:

You don't know either, huh? [Wink]

Obviously the "side" of the media is irrelevant. You had just better start doing it as shown in the pictures or else you are doing it wrong, right?

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-01-2008, 03:00 AM:

The media physically winds best when the "inside" of the roll is presented to the film. (The actual surface side of the media doesn't matter.) As far as the tape on the ends of the rolls, I never tape them down, so if the media DOES run out, it won't scratch and gunk up the print.