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Posted by Rene Ferron (Member # 4674) on 09-20-2008, 04:57 PM:

Hi Everyone,

I would like to ask if someone could help me here.
I ordered some Film-Tech Media Pads but the core are not the plastic ones but cardboard and they are not so easy to "rewind". I would like to ask if anyone would have some plastic cores that i could have. I would of course pay for shipping.

Thx VM.

PS: Brad are those cardboard core the replacement for plastic ones ?

Posted by Mike Olpin (Member # 1115) on 09-20-2008, 05:47 PM:

Sounds like your supplier may have swindled you. I'd reject the product and demand authentic Film-Tech products. The real ones have plastic cores with the logo etched into them. Other brands have been shown to cause film damage.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-20-2008, 06:08 PM:

Your dealer substituted a cheaper product on you. They deserve to be "outed" here. We have NEVER manufactured media pads on cardboard cores.

Posted by Rene Ferron (Member # 4674) on 09-20-2008, 07:05 PM:

Would it be possible to get the name of a Canadian Reseller ?

Edit: Well after looking at your Product page and reading your reseller/suppliers list, i can see that the company that i bought those from is there in that list.

Before i do some bashing on this supplier i will contact them on Monday and ask for some explanation on this.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 09-20-2008, 10:13 PM:

Genuine Film-Tech media (and Film-Guard) will come in a sealed box with the Film-Tech logo. You will need to cut that seal to open the box. If you don't see the Film-Tech logo on the outside of the box, don't bother opening it.

Steve

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 09-21-2008, 01:51 AM:

quote: Rene Ferron
Before i do some bashing on this supplier i will contact them on Monday and ask for some explanation on this

Yeah... then we can bash them, but good! [evil]

Posted by John Koutsoumis (Member # 1855) on 09-21-2008, 03:06 AM:

I had asked my supplier for Film-Tech media pads but got the White Kelmar ones instead. They seem to be fine.
I use the coupling cores that come with the bottle of Filmguard to wind the media onto. I have quite a collection now and it just takes a few seconds. Not sure who supplies the actual
Film-Tech ones around here.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 09-21-2008, 04:16 AM:

The Australian supplier is:

Intech Pacific in Castle Hill, NSW.
Call Spiro on (02) 9894 4388 and he'll make sure you get the real ones. [thumbsup]

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 09-21-2008, 10:02 AM:

There is nothing wrong with Kelmar White media.

I think the issue here is if one orders a brand-specific product, they should be delivered that product and not have it passed along as something different. It would be one thing to order Film-Tech and then be offered Kelmar so the customer still has the say in what they are purchasing. However, it is another thing to merely supply something different.

Steve

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 09-21-2008, 10:46 AM:

The Kelmar pads scare the crap out of me. They are so friggin' dry and abrasive even after just 2 days of being saturated with Filmguard. They aren't cut straight, either.

Posted by Alan Gouger (Member # 543) on 09-21-2008, 10:52 AM:

I also have a bag of the kelmar White media ( came with the machine, bought 2nd hand ) I use the cardboard inner sleeve for the take up on the cleaning machine.
Ive bought nothing but FT ever sense.
Q: If you do not have the cardboard sleeve what does everyone use on the take up?

Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 09-21-2008, 11:58 AM:

I vastly prefer FT over Kelmar, but on the rare occasion when I had to use Kelmar, I found it easier to mount the pad on the cleaner and powerwind it onto a FT core. This was accomplished by taping a FT core onto some kind of attachment on a cordless drill and just winding it onto the take up core. I'll have to see if I have pictures, since that was in my old booth and I don't think I have a drill in my new one. It really saves time if you want to have the media on the coupling type core, for easy rewind and that type of stuff.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 09-21-2008, 09:44 PM:

Like this?

Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 09-22-2008, 12:59 AM:

Almost exactly like that, except I invented it, so I get the glory. That person was probably spying on me through a time machine, since I didn't invent it until about 2 weeks after that video was posted.

Posted by John Koutsoumis (Member # 1855) on 09-22-2008, 02:44 AM:

I guess with the ordering it was my fault as I did not confirm whether they stock the FilmTech ones or not. I knew I was going to get the Kelmar ones and thats what I was charged for.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 09-22-2008, 06:48 AM:

quote: Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
That person was probably spying on me through a time machine, since I didn't invent it until about 2 weeks after that video was posted.

Yes, I have my Delorean parked outside. Though I only put it on YouTube in June, I've had the EZ2RW in use since December 2007.

Posted by Rene Ferron (Member # 4674) on 09-25-2008, 06:45 AM:

Update: After contacting the supplier, they noticed that i asked for FT pads but they send me Jack Roe pads. I was issued an RMA and i will get the FT media pads that i ordered.

So all is good.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 09-25-2008, 05:29 PM:

Is there anything that Jack Roe doesn't make an inferior duplicate of?

Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 09-25-2008, 05:56 PM:

Potts platters?

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 09-25-2008, 07:56 PM:

I use my Kelmar bench motor end with the 1/2" spindle to wind bulk media on those card board rolls, but the drill idea is pretty interesting though.

No, Pott's Platters are not bad at all - being the incentive of the STRONG platters..

...it was those air driven platters (forget the name of them) that really had it's moments in the mid 70's.

Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 09-26-2008, 01:52 PM:

Monte, IIRC Simplex made/marketed the air platters. What a dog. It made the Ballenswine/Wrong knockoff of the Potts look like an AW3 in comparison. [Big Grin]

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 09-26-2008, 03:09 PM:

Actually the AirOMatic plater was made by Potts for Simplex

Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 09-26-2008, 08:39 PM:

FYI: Strong/Ballantyne and Potts are made in the same factory and are consequtive serial numbers since at least 1976. There was a short gap where Potts started another production, later called the Super Platter, then back to the original maker in Central Illinois. Louis

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 09-27-2008, 12:39 AM:

We know that there still a few 'stupidplatters' still floating around in service, but any of these AirOmatic still in service anywhere?

The only time I saw these air monsters was at a newly constructed twin in my home area in 1976 and it was quite something to see, and hear, these things operate. Every time that supply deck would get ready to take off, the "hair dryer" underneath would give out a pretty good gust of wind to where when the wind hits the turbine blades of the deck, it gave out a pretty decent whistle as if the deck was actually taking off like an engine of a jet airplane.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 09-27-2008, 01:15 AM:

quote: Louis Bornwasser
There was a short gap where Potts started another production, later called the Super Platter, then back to the original maker in Central Illinois.

Louis, are you saying that the people responsible for this:

are also responsible for this?

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 09-27-2008, 04:00 AM:

Ah...the Super Platter... [puke]

Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 09-27-2008, 08:27 AM:

Yes: the air platter for Simplex/NTS; the Super Platter, the Christie AW1 & AW2, the SPECO platter, some early orc platters, the Alpha platters and the Strong platters were originally made in Urbana IL by Potts. ONLY the Kinoton and the AW3 were NOT Potts of the early platters. Later, production of many of these was moved to the present locations. Louis

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 09-27-2008, 10:13 AM:

quote: Monte L Fullmer
any of these AirOmatic still in service anywhere?

Bengies Drive-In, Baltimore, still runs a SAM platter (Simplex Aero-Matic). D. Vogel actually LOVES them! [Wink]

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 09-27-2008, 10:44 AM:

This explains the common suckage of early platters as well as the design that continues to linger like a dead skunk to this day (such as in the Strong).

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 09-27-2008, 07:36 PM:

at least that orange ORC/Stupid model has larger rollers on the tower than the current STRONG varieties...

yas think that STRONG should have picked up on that one.

Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 09-27-2008, 11:36 PM:

Gordon, Louis and Monte:

Thanks for correcting the info on the Air platter for me. [Smile]

Now, does anyone have the manual for the Air platter to add to our warehouse here? [Smile]