quote: Scott Norwood

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I have not had the same luck with Dolby trailers, unfortunately.

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quote: Joe Redifer

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Nobody has gotten any Dolby Digital promotional material for a loooooong time

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About 2 months ago, Dolby London sent me 12 City Redux trailers. 6 flat and 6 scope.
 

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Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 07-28-2009, 08:41 AM:
 
Dolby announced City Redux in their Dolby News newsletter in Fall 2006, and replied expeditiously to our request and sent us trailers when we emailed them in March 2007.


(image used to avoid concerns about spam harvesting)

So I would email (or call) Christy; at least domestically.

--jhawk
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-28-2009, 01:22 PM:
 
John, all of our requests go to Dolby San Fransisco.
 

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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 07-28-2009, 03:13 PM:
 
Joe, I know.
 

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Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 07-28-2009, 04:30 PM:
 
Heck I still have the "Flying Disc" DTS logos one each of flat and scope that have never been used.

I wonder what bug is up Dolby San Frans butt as they have been really lousy on support of any kind lately...
 

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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 07-28-2009, 06:00 PM:
 
I will start by saying I truly appreciate them sending over these tags. They're much less in your face than the original 'City' tags.

Having said that, I am at a loss to find a good reason why on earth they would have made the scope versions 'pillarboxed'. Surely they could have lost a bit of info on the sides and made them full frame.

Do full-frame scope versions of 'City Redux' exist?
 

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Posted by Adam Lautenbach (Member # 5140) on 07-28-2009, 06:59 PM:
 
A couple of months ago I requested promotional material from both DTS & Dolby. Both companies got back to me and sent us items. DTS sent a bunch of posters and one plaque. Dolby sent buttons, posters, trailers (City Redux), and plaques.

A few weeks ago I contacted Dolby again to see if we could get more non-EX trailers and plaques since we got EX ones for our EX equipped auditoriums (not using the EX items since EX is almost dead)
They came through again and sent additional plaques and trailers. The second batch of trailers we received were the "Train" version.

Regarding the scope 'City Redux' trailers, ours are full-frame (not 'pillarboxed')

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I posted some pictures because I would've liked to know what the plaques an posters looked like before we got them. (apologies if it's against the forum rules to post this many images)









 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-28-2009, 07:06 PM:
 
My request was sent more than a couple of months ago. Does Dolby play favorites? What the hell is going on?
 

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Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 07-28-2009, 07:19 PM:
 
Perhaps your email got caught in spam filter. Why not call Christy tomorrow?

--jhawk
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-28-2009, 07:57 PM:
 
Ha ha no. I sent them the form that actually comes with the equipment via snail mail. It is possible that it got lost or maybe Dolby moved, I dunno. It never bounced back or anything.
 

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Posted by Louis Belloisy (Member # 3836) on 07-28-2009, 08:57 PM:
 

quote: Daniel Schulz

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Hi Louis,

We are out of stock on the Sparks logo trailers at the moment, and I do not have a date for when we'll have a new set run. Please stay tuned, and I will advise as soon as we have an availability date for new 35mm logo trailers.

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quote: Adam Lautenbach

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Regarding the scope 'City Redux' trailers, ours are full-frame (not 'pillarboxed')

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Then that's wierd. Why would they even bother making a pillarboxed version?

Time to email again methinks.
 

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Posted by Matt Young (Member # 5327) on 07-29-2009, 05:41 PM:
 
who is everyone contacting to get a hold of Dolby promotional items? I faxed a promo item order page to someone when we first opened our theatre (almost 2 years ago) and they never got back to me.

DTS on the other hand was extremely prompt and friendly everytime I've delt with them.

anyways, I'd still like to get a couple Dolby plaques and promo stuff. what email address is everyone sending their request to?
 

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Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 07-29-2009, 07:13 PM:
 
Matt, see my post on page 1. Christy Ventura.

--jhawk
 

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Posted by Matt Young (Member # 5327) on 07-29-2009, 08:42 PM:
 
your picture was dated november 2006 so I wasn't sure if that email was still good.

Thanks
 

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Posted by Sean Weitzel (Member # 244) on 07-31-2009, 02:11 AM:
 

quote: Scott Norwood

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I just sent email to them with the serial number of my unit and asked nicely. They sent me some posters and one each flat and scope trailers, at no charge. This was before the recent "Datasat Digital" reorganization, so there may now be some confusion about who handles the promotional items.

I have not had the same luck with Dolby trailers, unfortunately.

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To Request Cinema Trailers & Promotional Materials, Contact: cinemainfo@datasatdigital.com.
Please note that we will only ship to a cinema and not to a private address.

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They'll send you promotional items, but only if you are a theater. Bummer. I was hoping to shoot over the serial of my DTS6 unit and get some posters and trailers shipped to my home screening room
 

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Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-31-2009, 05:28 AM:
 
Interesting. They sent the promotional stuff to my home address, but they still haven't added my screening room to the list of DTS equipped cinemas.

The Dolby stuff that I ordered (using their standard order form and, separately, a letter that listed serial numbers) was for a theatre and never arrived.
 

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Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 07-31-2009, 01:10 PM:
 
Wasn't Dolby charging theaters something like $100 per trailer back in the 1990s?

I'm a little surprised Dolby and DTS are still filling requests for promotional material with items using out of date logos.

These are the most current logos for Dolby Digital and DTS:



I haven't seen any promotional materials in commercial theaters featuring either of those logos yet.

However, it's worth noting the company handling DTS cinema efforts is still using the older DTS logo. Nevertheless, I have seen the newer DTS logo with that swirly cheeze cutter icon thing showing up on end credits in some movies. The new DTS logo has pretty much replaced the old one on home video packaging, especially on Blu-ray releases.

I wonder how costly it would be for Dolby to go back and revamp a bunch of its Dolby Digital trailers with the new logo. Or better yet, can they retool those trailers for Dolby TrueHD use on Blu-ray? DTS-HD seems to be grabbing more and more business on the Blu-ray movie audio front.

quote: Charles Greenlee

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Dolby, I liked the Train for analog, and Egypt for the digital best.

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quote: Bobby Henderson

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AFAIK, Dolby never made a version of the Train trailer for analog formats. That one was strictly for Dolby Digital. At least 3 different versions of the Train trailer were made in the early 1990s. The original had the "Dolby Stereo Digital" logo on it, and also had the most aggressive sound mix.

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If I recall correctly, the Dolby Train trailer was first used with The Fugitive (1993).

Very impressive trailer, best of the bunch for any format.

The only possible competition might have been some of the SDDS trailers, but since SDDS theaters were so rare around here, I never had a chance to see many of them. I seem to remember a Zorro one that made use of discrete channels pretty well.
 

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 08-03-2009, 10:12 AM:
 
The Train trailer is cool and very appropriate for us, since we are a railroad town. I would like to vary it a little though - we've been playing that trailer on every show for as long as we've had the Dolby - 3 or 4 years.
 

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Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 08-03-2009, 10:32 AM:
 
I think the helicopter city was the best redition of the DD signal. As far as the DTS the flying disc beats all hands down.
 

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Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 08-03-2009, 12:16 PM:
 
I must be the only one who ever liked DTS Sonic Landscape (the piano one). It was subtle, but classy, and would work well for many non-action films.
 

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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 08-03-2009, 04:40 PM:
 
No Scott, I liked it too.

So that's two...
 

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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 08-03-2009, 04:46 PM:
 
It sux! ...That's 2-to-1 so far...

I agree with Mike..The Train trailer is cool!
 

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Posted by Daniel Schulz (Member # 1881) on 08-03-2009, 05:20 PM:
 
I really like Sonic Landscape (the piano logo), but I suppose my vote doesn't count.
 

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 08-03-2009, 05:39 PM:
 
My DTS votes:

Sonic Landscape - great for chick flicks, kid movies and such but not so great for action films. But I liked it.

Flying Disks: Great for action movies but a bad fit for chick flicks, art films, movies set before 1960, etc. My favorite because it really showed off the system.

Sparks: Nice animation and cool sound, but too short. Good for any movie except retro type things and (again) chick flicks.
 

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Posted by Robert Minichino (Member # 3495) on 08-03-2009, 07:22 PM:
 
Were there ever any 70mm DTS logos, either separate or attached to a print?
 

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Posted by Daniel Schulz (Member # 1881) on 08-03-2009, 08:12 PM:
 
Yes, there were 5-perf 70mm prints of the flying disc logo.
 

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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 08-03-2009, 08:48 PM:
 
We ran a 70mm one on Vertigo.

quote: Daniel Schulz

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I really like Sonic Landscape (the piano logo), but I suppose my vote doesn't count.

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Posted by Scott Jentsch (Member # 1681) on 08-10-2009, 02:22 PM:
 
I liked Sonic Landscape much better than the flying disc.

That one was cool when it first appeared, but its cheesiness got old very quickly.

If you want to show off your split surrounds, nothing will do it better than the THX "Tex" trailers. The power drill in the rear surround (can't remember if it was LR or RR) along with the whirring of his jet pack around you gives you full notice that there are more than one channel behind you.

Maybe it's because so many theaters don't bother to show off their sound systems any more, but it amazes me that companies whose bread and butter is sound can't get a really kick-butt trailer to show off their equipment and what it can do.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of theaters still show DTS and Dolby Digital trailers. That would make a good feature for an issue of Box Office Magazine!
 

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Posted by Marco Giustini (Member # 4544) on 08-10-2009, 02:35 PM:
 
Until my last day in cinemas, I used to show DTS (until it stopped working and the company just dismissed it) and Dolby Digital logos in front of every movies on the biggest screen - just trying to have the trailers last as much as possible.

I have been showing the same 30/35 Dolby logos for 6 years, doing my best to keep them in good shape. At the end, they were dirty (no wet cleaning system installed) but definitly NOT scratched.

I'm proud of that, but anybody has ever cared about it. It was just my choice.

Marco
 

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Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 08-10-2009, 11:30 PM:
 

quote: Daniel Schulz

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We will be rebranding under our new name, Datasat Digital Entertainment, and will be rolling out new materials under that name, with a new logo. Stay tuned.

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Just a suggestion, I strongly recommend keeping some sort of brand identity attachment to the original DTS logos:



"The Digital Experience" thing could help bridge the gap between the DTS brand name and Datasat Digital Entertainment. I'd still hold onto the DTS moniker as long as I could. There's a lot of value between having the same logo on a lot of home audio equipment and showing up in movie credits.
 

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Posted by Charles Greenlee (Member # 3856) on 08-11-2009, 03:36 PM:
 
I ran DTS trailers on the appropriate screen when I was at the regal. When I got there, we had none, and no posters, plaques, or even trailer discs. I immediately started the ball rolling to get those, and during the interim, with approval of DTS over the phone, borrowed the other Regal's trailer discs, and made copies to cover all of our DTS screens. I also stole their DTS trailers, what they had, since they were converted to Dolby Digital some time back.

Also sent in for the Dolby analog trailers and other promo items. Analog may be outdated, and considered inferior to the digital, but might as well play up what we have. People, after seeing the promo items, thought we had upgraded our sound systems. They even commented on how much better they sounded. Gotta love the placebo effect, not that we didn't have the sound, but that it was there the whole time. Nothing changed but their perception. And that, in fact, was the desired effect. I ran those until I left.
 

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Posted by Scott Jentsch (Member # 1681) on 08-13-2009, 05:45 PM:
 
Kudos to you, Charles, for making an "upgrade" that your customers could appreciate, and at no cost (besides your time)!

I wish that more theaters would realize the benefits of a little showmanship in the process. Consumers are often the proverbial horse that marketing has to lead to water. Once there, they will eagerly drink and be happy for it!

I'll bet you could advertise that your ice was made from filtered water "for the best quality" (if it truly is, of course), and you'd sell more soft drinks at the concession stand.

A little marketing goes a long way!
 

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Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 11-15-2010, 10:53 AM:
 

It has been 458 days since the last post.

 

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Posted by Donna Sylvester (Member # 726) on 11-15-2010, 10:53 AM:
 
I just contacted Datasat Digital Entertainment. They still don't have any dts trailers.
 

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Posted by Marin Zorica (Member # 1716) on 11-15-2010, 11:31 AM:
 
Same answer I've got few months ago.....we still need to wait
 

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Posted by Jake Spell (Member # 5294) on 11-15-2010, 04:26 PM:
 
I called them last week and they told me that they SHOULD have them by January, however this isn't the fist time they failed to get them when promised.

They also told me they would be DDE(Datasat Digital Entertainment) trailers, not DTS trailers
 

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Posted by Marco Giustini (Member # 4544) on 11-15-2010, 04:58 PM:
 
Nobody knows DDE, I would not show them.
 

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Posted by Jeremy Weigel (Member # 4208) on 11-15-2010, 05:03 PM:
 
I stopped using sound logo trailers a couple of years ago. I might still have some DTS logos left. Donna, if I do, I'll send you a PM.
 

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Posted by Jake Spell (Member # 5294) on 11-15-2010, 11:45 PM:
 
No one my know DDE but honestly how many customers know DTS? I only use them because the look/sound damn cool
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 11-16-2010, 12:28 AM:
 
DTS was unhappy with the cinema side of the biz so they sold it off. Then the newly independent cinema side found the most uncreative person they could to think of a new name for them and they came up with the very cold Datastat Digital Endoscopy or whatever. I think a lot of people know who DTS is namely because of Jurassic Park and also the home side of the biz. Showing a film trailer with a DDE logo would be weird since I don't think any film stuff was designed or manufactured under DDE. If showing digital stuff, then that's OK because there's an alphabet soup of stuff out there that nobody knows about so it would blend in nicely. If the film trailer was friggin' awesome, then I'd show it anyway.
 

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Posted by Scott Jentsch (Member # 1681) on 11-17-2010, 10:13 AM:
 
Sadly, I've found none of the DTS trailers "friggin' awesome" so there's probably not much chance of that.

Whatever the reason, moving away from the DTS trademark was a bad idea. DTS is enjoying a huge amount of brand awareness as a result of Blu-ray, which bolsters the 17 years of presence in the commercial theater and home theater market, and just as digital sound on film is waning in importance, they change the brand for the theatrical market.

Combine that with a seeming lack of ability to create interesting sound trailers, the lack of interest among theaters in playing them, the inability of theaters that are interested to get them, and the trend towards lossless multi-channel sound on digital cinema, and you gotta wonder where they're headed with this effort?
 

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Posted by Marco Giustini (Member # 4544) on 11-17-2010, 02:29 PM:
 
DTS is on many DVD's and BD's, is on all Home Theatre power amplifiers, players, Playstation...
 

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Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 11-17-2010, 03:05 PM:
 

quote: Scott Jentsch

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Whatever the reason, moving away from the DTS trademark was a bad idea. DTS is enjoying a huge amount of brand awareness as a result of Blu-ray, which bolsters the 17 years of presence in the commercial theater and home theater market, and just as digital sound on film is waning in importance, they change the brand for the theatrical market.

Combine that with a seeming lack of ability to create interesting sound trailers, the lack of interest among theaters in playing them, the inability of theaters that are interested to get them, and the trend towards lossless multi-channel sound on digital cinema, and you gotta wonder where they're headed with this effort?

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quote: Me, from that other thread

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Sadly, with the dreck coming out of Hollywood, the anti-piracy campaign that made the PAYING CUSTOMERS out to be the criminals and the downgrading of image quality on both film prints and DLP, the industry continues its self-destruction with no signs of it stopping.

Honestly I have never seen a business model so bent on killing off its customer base.

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