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Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-11-2009, 10:40 PM:

Howdy! New here...and I really want to learn! Bear with me if my level of understanding is not very high yet, please. I am taking over management of a small 65-seat, single screen theatre, and have many questions.

But, I will start with one:

We have a rewind table that only has an "on" and "off" option (pic included). We use 6000' reels, and all films are presented with an intermission (no room for a 2nd projector, or for platters). So all build-up and break-down occurs with this table.

You hit "on" and it makes a loud sound and just starts up in high speed. To stop it, you switch to "off" and must use a towel in hand to slow the reel (especially when stopping for splices during break-down).

Seems kind of rough on the film! I have only used rewind tables (in the past) that had speed control.

Interested in whether or not this is something that should be/could be changed? And what would be involved in changing it to a table with speed control?

Like I said, this is my first question....more to come ;-)

We will definitely be hiring someone to come in and train me on maintenance and troubleshooting of our equipment so I will be learning more soon. But, wondering what advice you all can offer now?

Thanks in advance,
Celine

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 12-11-2009, 11:39 PM:

Whatdaya say, Celine! [Smile]

Wow, how old is this place that it only ever had one projector?

Judging from the angle of the belt going up, the rewind looks like it might be an old TECO mounted to a Neumade bench.

Not much you can do with it at this point, without buying something. Like a variac to control the speed. You'd be much better off, of course, with something like a new Kelmar bench. Someone here may even have a used one you can get on the cheap...

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 12-12-2009, 01:40 AM:

Hi Celine, welcome. Not to worry about your level of expertise, one of the things you will find about this forum is the generosity of spirit of most of the members. With the numbers we have here, there is usually someone who has an answer to almost anything you can think of asking. So don't be shy.

Your instincts are right, of course, that unit is very hard on film and no doubt hard on your hands as well. Very bad; it really needs to be corrected before some serious damage happens to a print. And it can happen in the blink of an eye, film spewing up in the air like a water fountain, and you instinctively trying to stop the out-of-control reel and hurting yourself.

The unit can be outfitted with an variable autotransformer or as Tim says, a variac. Neither will break the bank, but although it will fix the big problem, it will only be a less than perfect fix. All other aspects of the rewind needs to be looked at as well -- does it have the proper adjustable hold back resistance on the feed reel -- other than that towel, I mean? Does it allow you to disengage the drive motor so you can turn the takeup reel it if you need to find a splice point? Does it have a clean, smooth work surface so any film that touches it doesn't get scratched or dirtied? Most rewind tables have Formica laminate which is smooth enough so as not to hurt film emulsion should it accidently be pulled across it.

I agree that you should try to find a good, used table such as the Kelmar Tim mentioned -- one in decent condition so that will be one less thing you need to worry about.

I like your attitude that you are willing to learn and take instruction. I can't imagine that in area of CA you won't be able to find someone who has cinema in his blood and would love to give you that mentoring, helping hand you are looking for. Hunt him or her down and that person can be an invaluable resource. If you weren't on the other side of the continent, I would love to come by to play. It's exactly the kind of thing lots of us would jump at the chance to help.

TAKE MORE PICTURES! Let's see the entire booth and theatre as well. I am sure the moderator wouldn't mind you posting more of the booth, but we do have a more formal section just for comprehensive pictures where you can upload interiors and exteriors as well (check it out in the side panel).

And best of luck to you with your venture. There aren't a lot of us single screeners around -- and even fewer that are not non-theatrical. Also, post a link if the theatre has a website.

Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 12-12-2009, 04:00 PM:

Wow! Sounds like a perfect location for an old Jumbo Sword! (small booth and only one projector) Not for everone, BUT occcasionally appropriate. You rewind on the machine like a giant 16mm projector. Makeup on the same machine. Up to 48" reel, servo controlled. Louis

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 12-12-2009, 04:11 PM:

That was my first thought, too, Louis (or at least a regular Sword or DBL-MUT), but I didn't want to hit her with too much right off the bat. [Wink]

Posted by Bruce Hansen (Member # 281) on 12-12-2009, 04:15 PM:

Can a TRAIC type "dimmer" be used with that type of motor?

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 12-12-2009, 04:24 PM:

If it can handle a pretty hefty inductive load, I don't see why not...

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-12-2009, 06:22 PM:

Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the support and advice! As for a new table...probably a good idea down the line, but right now we only change films once every 2-3 weeks so it wouldn't really make sense to invest money there when there are other places (like the sound system) that need upgrading too (and that is something we use every day).

I was wondering the same thing, if a dimmer typed switch could replace the on/off switch to give me a little more control? Seems like the easiest solution for now?

As for the theatre...it has been around for almost 20 years. About 10 in the current location. I believe all the equipment was purchased used.

~Celine

Posted by Jarret Chessell (Member # 5077) on 12-12-2009, 06:45 PM:

a home depot light switch dimmer won't work. You'll burn something out. A variac would be better suited. I'd imagine you could get one from a motor repair/supply store.

Have you considered a film tower? It takes up less space than a second projector or a platter system. You would make up an entire film on a 1200' reel.

btw, your rewinder looks just like one we rigged together on the cheap for rewinding our preview reel [Smile]

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 12-12-2009, 07:02 PM:

I tried a heavy-duty variac on an old Neumade table once and had no luck. The motor would sync to the AC line and either spun at full speed or not at all, depending upon the voltage. For this type of motor, you would need an inverter drive unit.

It might be easier to replace the motor with a DC model and use a rheostat to control it. That stuff should all be available from the Grainger catalog.

At the very least, I hope that there is some sort of handcrank on the driven end of that table and that you manually start the reel spinning and get it up to full speed before turning on the motor.

I'll second (or third) the recommendation for the double-MUT. It could even be located in an adjacent room and would take up very little space. I ran one once at a festival and it seemed to be very gentle on film.

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-12-2009, 07:24 PM:

Hi Scott,

There is no 'adjacent room' at our place. Small, little booth (I can get measurements tonight), small lobby/concession stand and then the 65-seat auditorium. The space was a regular storefront that was converted to a theatre. Even the bathroom is in a crazy place...down front to the right of the screen...in the auditorium! In that respect, it is probably good that we have an intermission!

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 12-12-2009, 07:46 PM:

Ooops... for some silly reason, I was thinking Bruce was talking about a theatrical house light dimmer (!!!), not a household/wallswitch dimmer!

Posted by Cameron Glendinning (Member # 3516) on 12-12-2009, 08:20 PM:

Are the seats comfortable? If your audience is use to the interval and are warned about I don't really see it as big issue.
Clearly a 65 seat cinema is more a novelty and in itself its quirkiness is probably part of the appeal of going there.

As for the winder I have worked with similar. Although not ideal by any means the real question is it damaging the film? Usually this damage is in the form of "rain" which are black dots marked into the print (not dust) near the end of the reel.
Things that can make a real difference is the tension setting on the no motor arm (if there are any?) ideally this would be set that the film is actually moving quite slow when a full 6000 is aproaching the end of its wind. The other thing that can make an improvement is if you slow the start of the wind with your hand (or towel) for the first five minutes of footage of the wind.

Anyway I too would love to see some pictures of your cinema and booth.

What sort of sound do you currently have? any issues with it?

If/when you want to run the whole film without a break, if you are not a weightlifter I would avoid the tower, some involve lifting the whole feature to head level, the eprad double mut is a great unit for small boxs.

Best of luck with your new venture.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 12-12-2009, 08:30 PM:

For whatever it's worth...

Behold the double-MUT:

This one was set up to feed from one room into the booth and back:

Unfortunately, I neglected to take a picture of the thing when it was actually in operation. One of the big reels (we used Goldberg platter reels, but any sort of large reel with 1/2" hub would work) feeds from one side of the unit (closer to the wall), and the takeup reel goes on the other side (away from the wall). Speed is regulated to create a constant takeup tension throughout the reel.

The concept with this temporary rental setup was to be able to show archival prints (there were two projectors in the booth) and also be able to run regular festival prints and easily exchange them with the theatre down the street, which was a typical platter-house multiplex (hence, the Goldberg platter reels). A platter reel could be removed from the takeup side of the double-MUT and immediately placed on a platter and run as-is in the other theatre.

I can't take credit for the concept, but it worked quite well.

Obviously, the original poster doesn't need to do this, but I offer it as an example of an unusual application where the double-MUT made sense.

edit:

Here are two more shots (sorry for the crappy scans...my scanner sucks) that show how one of these will fit into a small booth. In this case, the MUT was being used to run a magnetic soundtrack through a dubber (the picture was on a platter) for a screening:

Note the Kelmar table in the background to give an idea of the size of the unit:

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 12-12-2009, 08:33 PM:

quote: Celine Negrete
There is no 'adjacent room' at our place.

But if you only change out movies every few weeks, you could easily have the Double-MUT put in the space currently taken up by your rewind bench. Plus, the double MUT's I've seen in pictures seem to take up little space.

Or the similar suggestion of a SWORD device would also take little space since the payout and takeup reels would just be on the side of the pedestal.

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 12-12-2009, 10:32 PM:

put a 2 ohm 200watt resitor in serries with the motor to slow down the start up

Posted by Sam D. Chavez (Member # 1841) on 12-13-2009, 02:13 AM:

I would adjust the belt really loose so it slips at the start.

Poor man's soft start.

Posted by Cameron Glendinning (Member # 3516) on 12-13-2009, 04:36 AM:

After a quick google I think I found it, (I may be wrong) The magic theater. How many 65 seat cinemas with a toilet next to the screen could there be? I think its pretty cute [Cool]

Here is their facebook page!
magic theater facebook

[ 12-13-2009, 04:44 AM: Message edited by: Adam Martin ]

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 12-13-2009, 05:24 AM:

quote:
There is no 'adjacent room' at our place. Small, little booth (I can get measurements tonight), small lobby/concession stand and then the 65-seat auditorium. The space was a regular storefront that was converted to a theatre. Even the bathroom is in a crazy place...down front to the right of the screen...in the auditorium! In that respect, it is probably good that we have an intermission!

Celine, you've got me beat by 3; the place where I used to project occasionally until quite recently was a single screen with 68 seats. It is part of an arts centre in an old library, with the new library built alongside. Projection rooms are often squeezed into awkward spaces in these sort of places. This one stretched the full width of the auditorium, but was only just over two metres deep. As you came in the door on the left there was space for storage of film boxes, 35mm machine No.1, port for video or slide projector with drop-down flap for it to stand on, a 16 mm machine was also sometimes used here, 35mm machine No.2, then a digital projector, then sound rack, then projectionist's desk. On the other side, working back towards the door, there was a large hole in the floor, about a metre square, with a ladder going down to serve as the fire escape, powered rewind bench, hand rewind bench, mounted on a cupboard which held various spares, staff lockers, and space for storing the 16mm machine. There was just room to squeeze through between the backs of the lamphouses and rectifiers on one side, and the rewind benches on the other. I never did manage to get a decent picture of the place, even with a wide angle lens while standing on the ladder.

Many small independant cinemas in the UK run film on towers, which are similar to the thing Scott posted a picture of, but with one spool mounted above the other; they don't take a lot of floor space, but are limited to about 2 1/4 hours of film, maybe a bit more with polyester. A common way of working is to run the adverts and trailers on a small spool on the projector while the adverts and features are rewinding on the tower. It's possible to rewind a feature in about 15 minutes, but I prefer to do it more slowly, at about half this speed.

I've projected in a number of cinemas over the years, but I've never run film on a platter, or even in a cinema which had one, they don't seem to be very common in independent, art-house type places over here. I'd say 95% of the shows I've run have been changeovers, with the others on towers, plus a few on one machine with 6k spools as you are now doing, while one machine had broken down, and was awaiting parts.

This page:

web page

from the Kinoton shows both side by side and upright versions. This is the German version of the site, but the pictures are the same. The upright type is the most common in the UK, mainly versions by Westrex and Cinemeccanica the side by side type is sometimes used for portable(ish) temporary installations.

The upright type takes up less floor space, as you don't space on both sides of it, but the upright type involves lifting full spools onto the upper spindle, and they are heavy. Many cinemas now do not allow a single person to lift spools onto the tower on their own, so you have to find somebody else to help you. Not too much of a problem if you're running the same feature all week, but a pain if its a different one for each show. This is obviously an advantage with the side by side type. There are also upright type towers which are double sided; the whole tower can be rotated after the show, to allow the next film to be run from the other side, while the previous one is rewinding.

Westrex tower

Shows a double sided Westrex tower. The picture is by Bernard Tonks, and the website by Hugh McCullough, both of whom are members here.

I've even seen a tower which was able to take 70mm, though it was only being used for 35mm. I wouldn't want to lift a 70mm print onto it.

The Phoenix, East Finchley, has a gents toilet next to the screen, but on the left, the ladies is in the foyer, and another gents up a few steps of a staircase which used to lead to the auditorium, but since the last refurbishment leads only to the office, and then to the projection room. I don't know why there are two gents facilities, it's useful now for disabled access, but I doubt that such things were considered when this place was built in 1910, or in 1938 when the auditorium was turned round the other way; maybe that's why the gents is at the front.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-13-2009, 11:23 AM:

quote: Cameron Glendinning
After a quick google I think I found it, (I may be wrong) The magic theater.

It's small, but has lots of character and obviously run by people who care. [thumbsup]

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 12-13-2009, 11:57 AM:

When did SoundFold start dealing in Persian Rugs [Wink]

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-13-2009, 12:58 PM:

That is it! Kind of a Nevada City institution. The theatre has been around for quite a while (more than 20 years)...moving from location to location with a portable 35mm projector, folding chairs, old couches, etc.

The present owner bought it almost 10 years ago when the previous owner was finally to coming to the end of his 'run'. It was in this location at the time, but had the couches and portable projector.

Like I said, it is in a converted store front. Not a space that was built for a theatre. We have a florist, barber and yarn store as our neighbors.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 12-13-2009, 01:21 PM:

Nice. The screen size and seating layout remind me of the "Movies at Exchange Street" theatre that used to exist in Portland, ME. Small and funky, but with excellent programming.

Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 12-13-2009, 01:25 PM:

Celine, send me a private message thru here or give me a call 707-364-0524, I might have some solutions for your booth, and can provide any technical services you might need.

-Aaron

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-13-2009, 01:34 PM:

The double mut and ideas like that might work, but there is a chance we may be moving locations sometime in the future (a year from now or so). So, making an large investment in equipment like that that may not be the best choice considering there may be a new location in our future. That is why I would like to find the 'easiest' solution for the rewind table for now.

Though, if we were to buy a different table we could always make use of it...even in a new location. So, that might be a good investment.

Thanks for posting the pictures of all the cool options. And, just so everyone knows, the way it works now is that there is only ONE person staffing the theatre at a time. We open, pop the popcorn, sell the tickets, sell the concessions, run the booth (including changing reels at intermission and then going out to see if anyone needs more concession items), rewind the film, thread the projector for the next night, clean, close up shop! Kind of fun!

Posted by Sean Weitzel (Member # 244) on 12-13-2009, 03:16 PM:

Hey Celine. Congratulations on your venture. My wife's family co-owns and operates PJ's Deli directly across the street from you. The next time I am up there I hope i can stop in and say hello. If you stop into the Deli tell Anne that Sean sent you.

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-13-2009, 03:22 PM:

Hey Aaron, will do. Seeing that you are 'nearby'! I will drop you a note later.

Sean, that is cool! I have yet to be into the deli, but I will make an effort now. Do drop by next time you are in town. Our schedule is on the website.

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-22-2009, 02:09 PM:

Ok....so, it looks like we might be able to do away with our intermission because we might be getting a Kinoton SPT 5000K (spool tower), like the one Stephen mentioned earlier.

I am fairly unfamiliar with these towers but it sounds like a great solution. So, the 'silly' question is how does one build a print (or break-down) with these towers?

Is the rewind table with no speed control going to still be an issue??

Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 12-22-2009, 02:31 PM:

You also need a rewind table able to handle the 5000m spools so you can setup the film on one spool directly. On the other hand, since you are already running a changeover booth, you could setup the film on 2 1800m spools and on first play (during preview screening of course) when you playback and splice both parts together on the spool which plays back on the spool tower. I think you are better off modifying your rewind table to handle bigger spools. On the other hand, why don't you invest on a platter?
Demetris

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 12-22-2009, 02:32 PM:

Demetris,

Celine is not running a changeover house; she only has one projector, that's why she has to have an intermission at present. As I understand it, the reason for not installing a platter is that there is not room for one. Towers take considerably less floor space than a platter; I've seen them squeezed into some very projection rooms, often with one 35mm machine, and a 16mm or digital where the other one used to be.

Celine,

Most places make up the print onto two 6k spools on the bench first, and then join the two 6k parts together on the tower. You obviously need a rewind bench with the same size shaft as the tower, normally 1/2" here, I don't know if yours are the same. Cinemeccanica plastic spools have interchangeable centres, which can be useful for this. Doing it this way makes it easier to inspect the print during make-up.

I have seen a few places, generally multi-purpose venues which only run film occasionally which have no rewind bench, and make up the print directly on the tower. Our prints arrive on cores, and so this simply requires a split spool to hold 2000 feet of film, made to fit the shafts of the tower. How it would be done over there with your 5/16" transit reels I don't know. Presumably either one of the tower shafts is replaced by a 5/16" one during make-up and break-down, or a separate 5/16 shaft is mounted somewhere on the tower for this purpose.

Between shows the print is rewound on the tower itself. You can run adverts, trailers and other shorts on the projector spools while the feature is rewinding on the tower.

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-22-2009, 02:51 PM:

Demitris, no room for a platter...our booth is 7 feet by 10 feet. That is why we have an intermission. To rethread the projector with the 2nd 2k reel.

Stephen, that is probably what we will do...make them onto 2 6k reels on the bench first. Thanks!

So, I am hoping that this will be a good 'move' for us? Moving to the spool tower instead of using 2 6k reels with an intermission??

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 12-22-2009, 03:34 PM:

Celine,

It will give you the ability to run about two and a half hours of film without a break. With polyester film, and by running a bit over the edges of the spool you might stretch that to almost three hours, but any longer and you'll still need an intermission. If you've got more than two prints made up at the same time time then it's somewhat easier to swap them over single-handed without extra devices than it is with a platter, though if the spools are full they'll be heavy, so you may need to get help anyway.

You haven't lost any facility that you have at present, you can still run a film that way if you need to, e.g. if a print arrives late you can still run the first half while you are making up the second, or break down the first half while the second is running if you need to get it out quickly after the show.

I still think that by far the quickest and easiest way to run film is as it comes on 2k reels with changeovers, especially if you're running a lot of different films, and shoeing each only once, or a few times, but if you've only got one machine then you don't have that option. Running any long-run system, either 6k reels or towers, I've never run platters, that way always felt more like hard work to me than running 2k reels.

You need to take care when starting a tower to prevent the film snatching, I suspect that the Kinoton tower may be better than some of the older ones, but I've never used one. You should really use spools with slipping centres to isolate the mass of the large flanges from the core and the film.

Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 12-22-2009, 04:08 PM:

The kinoton uses the arm somewhat like a variac to adjust speed of takeup reel. Rewind is also done directly on the spool tower. Kinoton is pretty spot on on the factory alingment so I doubt you will need any adjustments and doubt you will have any film snapping problems as they handle film very kindly. One thing to consider perhaps would be adding some extra rollers so the tower could accomodate both projectors. One the other hand though, you could try to sell your second projector and still go with a platter solution!
Demetris

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-22-2009, 04:17 PM:

Demetris,

We don't have a 2nd projector. We are not a change-over house. We have one projector and use two 6k reels, hence the intermission. There is no room for either a 2nd projector or platters. ;-)

Good to hear the Kinotron sounds pretty reliable!

Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 12-22-2009, 04:27 PM:

The Kinoton sidewinder is a reliable piece of kit, and remarkably gentle on the film.

I don't care much for the Cinemecannica DGB towers, you can't control the rewind speed not adjust the tensions. (Note: the Kinoton tower is self adjusting in terms of tension). I've also been experiencing difficulties obtaining parts for the older Cinemcannica towers.

AFAIK the Westrex 5035 tower was never sold in the US, nor was there anything like it there. It's a much maligned piece of kit, perfectly capable of running features for weeks without damage (contrary to what many people will tell you), it's all down to the operator.

Proyecson in Spain also make a very similar tower to the Kinoton [Wink]

Depending on what your projector is you might even be able to mount it and the lamphouse on a Proyecson tower/pedestal unit.

Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 12-22-2009, 04:36 PM:

I agree with Pete

Proyecson sidewinder bench

Here you can find the Proyecson sidewinder if space is so much of an issue. You could also have an auxiliary top arm which most probably you already have. This sidewinder bench will mount most of the US projectors. Perhaps you can also look at this option which sounds better at the end of the day.

Pete I think Cinemeccanica does not make the DGB tower anymore although I could be mistaken.

Sorry I did not see that you were not running a changeover booth. My apologies

Demetris

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-22-2009, 04:43 PM:

The main reason why we would consider going with the Kinotron is because we have the ability to get a slightly used one from a theatre that recently closed for a good price. We would not buy a new right now. We would just stay with the intermission as we have had it that way for over 10 years now if it was not for this opportunity to make the change at a reasonable cost.

Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 12-22-2009, 04:51 PM:

Celine don't forget spools in the offer. What is your projector model?
Demetris

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-22-2009, 05:08 PM:

We have a Simplex E7.

It is really difficult to take a picture of the whole booth because of the size. I can't get back far enough to get it all in one shot.

Thanks for the reminder about the reels!

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 12-22-2009, 07:57 PM:

Ya have a good lamphouse there, Celine! Can't beat that Super Lumex. [Smile]

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 12-22-2009, 11:57 PM:

As long as it is running the E7 is a rock stable image

Posted by Sean Weitzel (Member # 244) on 12-23-2009, 12:51 AM:

I actually think an intermission adds a charm to the presentation. If it's worked for 10 years why change? Your audience expects it. If anything, acquiring a reel tower would allow you the freedom to choose whether you have an intermission or not. At the very least you could continue to program an intermission with the reel tower and it would give you an extra 5 minutes to sell popcorn since you wouldn't have to re-thread. You would just be putting the program "on pause"

FWIW the E7 is an awesome projector. I had a pair installed at a house I rented with friends back in the 90's mated with Peerless Magnarcs. I rescued them from a lab in San Francisco that made policy trailers - Motion Picture Services on Golden Gate ave. They were my first full size projector. Wow what a picture that combination put out. We had many a backyard BBQ party with those rigs. I had to sell them when I moved. I miss them.

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 12-23-2009, 02:41 AM:

Hey Sean, that is a great picture! And, I agree about the E7...it seems very 'solid'.

Also agree about the intermission. It is 'expected'... and part of what makes us different in a quirky way. But, it would be nice for it to be a choice vs. a requirement.

We also have the option of replacing the Simplex E7 with a Simplex PR1014...I have no real clue as to whether or not that would be a good idea (though, I imagine I should start a new thread about that)?

Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 12-23-2009, 03:41 AM:

Celine,
Something that a lot of us put in order is the following:

If it ain't broken, don't fix it!

If you are happy with the results of your current equipment, just keep a regular maintenance and be happy with it. I too agree that an intermission ads a certain charm so perhaps your best solution would be what Brad suggested about using the slide projector you already have.
Demetris

Posted by Paul Gordon (Member # 3320) on 12-23-2009, 08:44 AM:

There's a small multi-use venue (Club SAW, part of SAW Gallery) in Ottawa that has a 60 seat theatre and runs 35mm with an Intermission. Intermssions really help in selling beer! I would stick with them. The projector is a Super Simplex, with a intergrated ORC lamphouse 750 watt.

Here's a homemade tower which uses kelmar arms.

Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 12-24-2009, 08:21 AM:

If you can get the XL (PR-1014) cheap I would. If anything breaks on your E7 you're in trouble - parts are scarce to unobtainable. It will mount on your soundhead OK although you might need some drive components (gear(s) and idler unit?)
I've used the Kinoton side-by-side unit and it works fine.

Posted by Paul Gordon (Member # 3320) on 12-24-2009, 09:31 AM:

Here's a tower thats used for makeup,rewind and film cleaning. Note the kelmar arm mounted so you can break down and makup on the tower.