Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Transferring vinegared 35mm to video

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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 03-28-2010, 04:46 PM:

Has anyone tried having vinegared prints transferred via a Flying Spot machine such as a Cintel? What were the results?

I'd imagine without the intermittent movement it could be done pretty well...albeit perhaps at a slower rate.

BTW, I'm not talking features here...just (very) old tags and ads.

Posted by Jack Theakston (Member # 4484) on 03-28-2010, 06:21 PM:

Depends on how bad it is, but there are a number of different systems that handle warped film that I've used. Usually there's a tension control and shrinkage gauge.

In the case of something short and a print, I'd have it transferred to an IN and then transfer that. You will have more control over the focus and timing issues by printing it first.

Posted by Richard P. May (Member # 3598) on 03-29-2010, 09:46 AM:

Jack, your recommendation is very good, but really pricey. An average full length feature could cost around $15,000 to have a proper internegative made from a print, and then it probably wouldn't be really good. Prints, as I'm sure you know, aren't made for this purpose, and come out pretty contrasty.
Also, the sound would need to be transferred separately.
Just because a print has some vinegar, there's no reason it can't be telecine'd successfully. If it's so far gone it is badly warped, that's another story.

Posted by Jack Theakston (Member # 4484) on 03-29-2010, 10:02 AM:

Dick, you're right, although I think it's just a couple of trailers he's interested in doing. If it's not too warped, then yeah, a telecine off the print should be sufficient.