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Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 05-14-2010, 10:46 AM:

Fairly new at this theatre. They have never had film inspection reports before. I am tired of scribbling notes on blank pieces of paper and with this print I will be working on today I know I am going to really need one.

Does anyone have a template they are willing to email me? Or direct me to a good link? Thanks!!

Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 05-14-2010, 01:03 PM:

Celine, I may have a hard copy of one that is really good, but I won't be able to get it to you in time.

When I get back in town I will snail mail it to Brad for posting here.

Did you try a Google search? I have found all kinds of different forms that way.

Posted by Celine Negrete (Member # 5531) on 05-14-2010, 01:23 PM:

Hi Tony,

I did try a google search and came up with nothing. I was surprised. Maybe I searched for the wrong terms?

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 05-14-2010, 01:32 PM:

I have yet to find a format that I really like, but the basics that you need are:

- title of picture
- running time
- print number
- format (16mm/35mm/70mm/Beta/Dbeta/HDCAM/other)
- number of reels/tapes
- aspect ratio
- sound format(s) (silent/mono/A/SR/SRD/DTS/SDDS) (silver/high magenta/cyan)
- fader setting for your theatre
- frame rate (silent films only)
- subtitles (yes/no) if yes, what type (laser/printed)
- opening image (with/without sound)
- end image (cuts to black/fades to black/scrolls to black)
- type of cues (lab/Clint Phare/temporary)
- overall condition
- any damage as received (missing heads/tails, bad splices, damaged perfs, scratches, missing footage, etc.)

I have also found it useful to have a line for each reel, where I fill in a description of the scene immediately prior to the motor cue, as well as the number of frames of picture between the changeover cue and the last frame of picture.

Posted by Jonathan Smith (Member # 5609) on 05-14-2010, 06:37 PM:

The problem isn't the reports, Scott, it's the problem of people not filling them out. . .

I once filled out, on a piece of tape at the end of a reel "2 REPAIR SPLICES, NO DAMAGE THOUGH" and the ASSHOLE at the print depot called my GM up and threatened to charge him with the cost of a replacement reel.

I screened the reel I unravelled while breaking down the movie for damage, and there was none. The asshole didn't know how to read apparently. THe warning I wrote on the masking tape on the reel was just to warn the 2nd run projectionist in case they were in a hurry re-assembling the print. The tape splices and lab splices will break if you are running MUTs near 100%.

Even if you *could* warn the 2nd run projectionists, someone will try to get you in trouble for it or blame you for any damage to the films. . .

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 05-14-2010, 07:02 PM:

quote: Jonathan Smith
it's the problem of people not filling them out. . .

..and the 2nd level to this above problem to this is those "booth clowns" who feel that they need more money to fill these reports out.

Thus, they figure that once the print leaves their complex, why bother, they're not gaining anything out of it.

Sorry, the majority of the theatre mangement/employees are not "purists" as we all are in F.T.

..have to deal with these issues at times ....

-Monte

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 05-14-2010, 07:06 PM:

Jonathan.

quote: Jonathan Smith
I once filled out, on a piece of tape at the end of a reel "2 REPAIR SPLICES, NO DAMAGE THOUGH" and the ASSHOLE at the print depot called my GM up and threatened to charge him with the cost of a replacement reel.

It's not surprising you almost got busted. Even though you tried to alert the 2nd run projectionist, what was written gives no real indication of any problems- it reads more like an admission to causing damage.

This highlights Scott's point and Celine's concern. It is very important to document PROPERLY the print condition, preferably on a sheet titled "Pre-Screening Print Condition Report" with a copy returned to the distributor and one each for the booth's records and the managers office. Any serious print faults deserve a phone call to the distributor.

If you DO know who the 2nd run theatre is, a phone call will do the trick.

I'm not trying to be picky here, just I've been there, done that.

It's all about covering your arse.

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 05-14-2010, 08:29 PM:

sed me an email and i will send you the excel form we use

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 05-15-2010, 01:02 AM:

quote:
- type of cues (lab/Clint Phare/temporary)

If you're running changeovers you also need the actual position of each cue - x frames early/late, if it's not in the correct place, which is quite likely, also need to record if any frames are missing from the leader.

Edit.

Sorry Scott, I missed the bit where you wrote:

quote: Scott Norwood
I have also found it useful to have a line for each reel, where I fill in a description of the scene immediately prior to the motor cue, as well as the number of frames of picture between the changeover cue and the last frame of picture.

It's also quite common for the motor cue to be in the wrong place; it's more often wrong than right if it's a hand-made cue, but it's not unusual for even lab cues to be out. Also, any missing frames at the end of the print will affect the effective position of both cues of course. Not to mention frames missing between the cues - I once had a print with 4 (I think) splices between the cues, and frames missing at all of them.

Then there's the problem of multiple sets of cues on a reel, and identifying which should be used.