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Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 08-18-2012, 04:49 AM:

Even in the declining days of film projection at our drive-in, Film Guard retains an essential place in the booth.

Tonight, I tried to load my "Expendables 2" disks into my DTS players, only to be told that something was wrong with them. A close look revealed what looked like scuff marks on part of the outside.

Nothing to be lost by trying, so a little Film Guard on a cloth, rubbed into the scuffs and... presto! working disks.

Someone on this forum once suggested that Film Guard must have medicinal qualities. Maybe an exaggeration, but not by much!

Now... where can you spray this stuff into your digital projector and make things better?..... [Eek!]

Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 08-18-2012, 08:31 AM:

I kept the FilmGuard and the Kelmar cleaners ready to go until the very end. Last show, I ran FG on the last showing of Hope Springs on 35mm. I was crying. I admit that. Then, I broke down the print.

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 08-19-2012, 06:11 PM:

Got a noisy 'muffin fan' in your DCP unit?

Pull the end sticker off to expose the bearing. Put a drop of FG on that bearing and noise is gone.

Got a wasp nest under the eve of your building? Zap it with FG and the stuff kills wasps dead.

Good for everything else that needs some light lubing around your location. Stuff is not going away that quickly. Still is your best friend to have around.

Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 08-19-2012, 08:38 PM:

quote: Monte L Fullmer
Good for everything else that needs some light lubing around your location

Not quite everything. [evil]

That was for Phil.

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 08-20-2012, 02:44 AM:

[Roll Eyes]

Posted by Buck Wilson (Member # 5885) on 08-20-2012, 12:53 PM:

HAHAHA! That might burn!

Posted by Don Furr (Member # 1469) on 08-20-2012, 08:02 PM:

Ha Ha....I guarantee you that Phil is smiling right now.

Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 08-21-2012, 01:00 PM:

Gotta admit... I didn't see the subject turning in that direction.

This place is amazing! [beer]

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 08-21-2012, 02:35 PM:

When do we get KDM magic that makes faulty keys work [Smile]

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 08-23-2012, 08:54 PM:

Good one Manny. Love it.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 08-23-2012, 11:38 PM:

quote: Don Furr
Ha Ha....I guarantee you that Phil is smiling right now.

You mean right now when I read your post, or when you wrote your post or when Manny wrote his post?

Posted by Don Furr (Member # 1469) on 08-24-2012, 02:39 PM:

Joe I think your last option would best describe the thought I was attempting to convey.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 08-24-2012, 05:36 PM:

quote:
HAHAHA! That might burn!

Not if you're doing it right.

Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 08-25-2012, 08:50 AM:

I've been guzzling FilmGuard (not literally) for alot of years. I'm still looking like a kid of 60. I'm only 55 at this time, though.

[bruce]

And Yes, Phil liked to pick on me when he called about being drunk on FG, again....

Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 04-03-2016, 08:02 PM:

It has been 1317 days since the last post.

Posted by Robert Harrison (Member # 3202) on 04-03-2016, 08:02 PM:

I reckon this place could have used Filmguard back in 1968...

Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 04-03-2016, 09:02 PM:

That might not be too far off. When the first Star Wars released, we ran it 4 times a day for 6 months, and wore out 2 prints... roughly 360 shows per.

Image degradation wasn't what killed the prints, either... for the most part. The film between sprocket holes got brittle and eventually cracked, making the integrity of the prints unreliable.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-04-2016, 06:26 AM:

Here is the thing. At the Uptown in DC...we regularly ran movies in excess of 400 shows and NEVER had to replace a print due to consumption. To the best of my knowledge, Star Wars, which played over a year there was the 35mm print and the 70mm print...that was it. I was not operating there at they time so I can't confirm but during my tenure, prints didn't age as has been described.

I'm curious, if you had perforation integrity problems...were you running large reels, by any chance? At the Uptown, our reels were on 22" maximum so tension would be lower than for those that ran 6000-foot reels.

Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 04-04-2016, 09:58 AM:

Good question, Steve. We were running 2,000 foot reels in a turnkey Simplex (XL) mag/optical booth. One of the few things I don't recall is whether it was ever set up for 3D. I don't think so, as it had a single Hertner generator. I also don't recall it having clutch/pad takeups, but could be wrong about that. The booth was a union shop and was, at the time, the newest installation in that town... very well maintained. I can't imagine something as simple as excessive feed tension would be allowed up there.

I know another guy who may have worked there after I left (late '79, I think). I'll see if he remembers anything.