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Posted by Michael Uebler (Member # 6876) on 09-08-2012, 03:28 PM:

My theatre is toying with the idea of putting on a special halloween theme show in late october. I was wondering if anybody knew any film vaults that would be able to distribute something along the lines of a nightmare on elm street, or the nightmare before christmas...something along those lines any information at all on how to make this happen would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by Rick Raskin (Member # 1561) on 09-08-2012, 03:47 PM:

How about making your topic more specific like Looking for Horror Film Distributor. I thought you were referring to nitrate storage, etc.

Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 09-08-2012, 04:54 PM:

Call your film booker about booking Halloween films.

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 09-08-2012, 10:22 PM:

Holland Releasing has a couple of available Halloween packages.

Posted by Jack Theakston (Member # 4484) on 10-02-2012, 12:44 PM:

Your best bet is to book it through each studio that owns the film. Nightmare on Elm Street was New Line, which I think is Warner Bros. now (good luck with that... their service sucks if you can get any.)

Nightmare Before Christmas is Disney... you're probably not going to be able to get it.

There's a huge difference between the crowd you're going to get for either film, though. If you're looking to draw, get something everyone loves (and can go see).

Keep in mind, for most archival prints, you're going to need to be running changeover, not platter.

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 10-02-2012, 01:17 PM:

You're a little late getting to it, and you didn't say if you were only interested in 35mm, or if DVD/BluRay/DCP is an option. Most of the classic Halloween films are booked way in advance, though if you want to do DVD/BluRay, the disturbs (other than Disney) are usually happy to take your money.

Here's Park Circus' Halloween collection:
http://www.parkcircus.com/films/collections/508_halloween

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 10-02-2012, 11:37 PM:

quote: Martin McCaffery
the disturbs (other than Disney) are usually happy to take your money.

I fail to understand Disney on this particular issue. They like to make money more than almost any company out there. They are constantly mining their catalog for video releases, theme park rides, remakes, sequels, re-issues and such, and they have bar none the best family-film catalog in the history of film. But you can't book their movies for one-off shows.

This seems like insanity for an otherwise-very-savvy company. They're leaving a lot of money on the table. WHY do they do this?? (I'd propose a letter-writing campaign but I don't think it'd do any good.)

Posted by Edward Havens (Member # 4715) on 10-03-2012, 01:57 AM:

Apparently, you CAN book some Disney movies for one-off shows, as Cinemark (I think) is doing nationwide shows of Mary Poppins and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea this fall. But I'll bet the Disney Animation Canon is still off-limits.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 10-03-2012, 05:44 AM:

At a local performing arts center, we played Mary Poppins in September and will be playing Bedknobs & Broomsticks in October. There were no problems with either booking. Up through August of this year, these bookings were handled by Buena Vista directly; now they must be made through Swank, but the same titles are available.

Could we have booked Snow White or Pinocchio or another A-list title? Probably not, but I didn't ask. I did inquire about the early Technicolor shorts (Flowers and Trees, Three Little Pigs, etc.), but was told that there were no prints (I did not pursue the possibility of getting archive prints of these).

I'm not a big fan of taking stuff out of release, but it seems to happen all the time. The James Bond films always seem to be unavailable when a new one is released. I looked into booking the Lord of the Rings series for December, but that is out of release now due to the upcoming release of The Hobbit.

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 10-03-2012, 10:58 AM:

Were these theatrical or non-theatrical showings?

Disney seems to have a different definition of non-theatrical than other disturbs. Was the performing arts center allowed to advertise?

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 10-03-2012, 11:39 AM:

Advertising was allowed.

I made the bookings and made clear that this screenings would be at a commercial, for-profit, open-to-the-public venue.

The definition of "nontheatrical" is shifting, though. I found out yesterday, that 20th Century Fox pretty much defines anything other than "first-run motion-picture theatre" as "nontheatrical" even if it is open to the public and the screenings are advertised. In their case, at least, it is no longer limited to film societies, colleges, and other "closed" groups.

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 10-05-2012, 11:12 AM:

I think Disney, and maybe now Fox, operate with a third category of "Post-Theatrical." Meaning they still want to make money with it, but don't want to be bothered. [Wink]

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 10-09-2012, 06:01 PM:

FYI: Disney has moved their theatrical Rep Films to Swank. That does not include the "Classic" animation or Pixar. So Mary Poppins is available theatrically (I asked specifically).

They do have 35mm prints of most of them.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 10-09-2012, 10:29 PM:

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Posted by Jonathan Goeldner (Member # 4854) on 10-09-2012, 11:09 PM:

is the DCP of 'Mary Poppins' that Cinemark is showing a full on restoration/transfer or is it just something Disney studios just slapped on for distribution? I know that 20,000 Leagues's 4K restoration has been shown and released in DCP form, so I'm assuming this is what will be seen come Oct. 25th.

Posted by Michael Putlack (Member # 6523) on 10-10-2012, 03:29 AM:

We booked Evil Dead II for Halloween weekend and day and went through Rialto, which apparently now owns the theatrical rights to the series.

Posted by Rick Raskin (Member # 1561) on 10-10-2012, 12:52 PM:

quote: John Wilson
Michael, you need to go back and change your subject header.

John: It seems you and I are the only ones who care.

Mods?

Posted by Jonathan Goeldner (Member # 4854) on 10-25-2012, 11:37 PM:

hmmm, I wasn't able to see 'Mary Poppins' but was able to see '20,000 Leagues' (as Cinemark's Classic Series) - that was the 4K restoration?? the image I thought was fuzzy and not that sharp. It was great to see the film on the large screen, but all in all, I guess I was expecting better picture quality from the transfer to the DCP.

Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 10-26-2012, 03:03 AM:

I think it was 2K.

Posted by Melanie Loggins (Member # 6454) on 10-26-2012, 09:54 AM:

Disney is leaving money on the table, which is out of character for them. I show a few free movies a year, usually from DVD or Blu Ray but I did get a DCP of How to Train Your Dragon 3D. I would show Disney movies - and pay for them! - if I could, and the move to Swank hasn't helped, as they only seem to answer one question out of 5. I have specifically asked about Mary Poppins... and gotten nowhere.

Posted by Jonathan Goeldner (Member # 4854) on 10-26-2012, 10:00 AM:

quote: James Westbrook
I think it was 2K

oh I'm sure it was, but I'm referring to the 4K workflow restoration/transfer done by the Disney film restorers, not the final DCP product.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 10-26-2012, 10:07 AM:

quote: Melanie Loggins
I have specifically asked about Mary Poppins... and gotten nowhere.

That really surprises me. Like I said, I had no problems booking it in 35mm this year (pre-Swank). Terms were reasonable, too. Is the licensing situation different for other formats? Swank is not my favorite company to deal with, but they have basically been good to me with respect to Disney bookings.