Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Friday the 13th 3-D in Anaglyph?

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Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-24-2015, 11:16 AM:

I've just come across a July 1982 article in Boxoffice which indicates Paramount would be striking red/green anaglyphic prints specifically for drive-in bookings. We know that hardtops played it in over/under polarized 3-D.

Does anyone remember playing an anaglyph print at that time?

If so, it was the only studio 3-D release to have had two versions in release. Anaglyphic 3-D was mainly confined to the porno titles. More info here: http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/silver-age-1966---1986

Thanks for any information!

Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 04-24-2015, 01:07 PM:

1982 was the year that Kodak transitioned from print stock and processing that went pink within a decade or so (5381 and process ECP-2) to low-fade stock and processing (5384 and ECP-2P). So, sadly, if any of these prints survive and are rediscovered, the red will still be there but the green might not!

Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-24-2015, 02:04 PM:

Oh, that's okay because Paramount has the left/right elements and I would never want to present it in anaglyph anyway.

I'm just interested for the record. I'd like to add the info to our website but would like some confirmation from anyone that might have played it.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-24-2015, 02:52 PM:

I know for a fact that Paramount offered "Scope" prints for drive ins. I do not know if they also offered Red/Green prints for them.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-24-2015, 03:20 PM:

I remember "almost" booking this. Our booker told us they were going to get us a 2D print of it, but we decided not to play it because we didn't want to disappoint people who would be expecting the 3D.

Posted by Jonathan Wood (Member # 4614) on 04-26-2015, 08:06 AM:

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing it in the UK in red/green format , I remember the glasses with the F13th logo

Posted by Don Furr (Member # 1469) on 04-26-2015, 09:22 PM:

I've had both a 2D scope and a polarized print of this picture. I've never heard of or seen an anaglyph version on film.

Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-27-2015, 01:23 PM:

Here's the quote. It's from the July 1982 issue of Boxoffice, one month before the film opened. Quite a mystery!

Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-27-2015, 02:33 PM:

Be careful with trade reports published in advance of a film's release. Such articles describe intent, and I've found (the hard way) that too often plans end up changing before release. Historians should try to find physical evidence or a corroborating story published during release. Likewise, be wary of reports published years or decades after an event...and people's memories. [Wink]

Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-27-2015, 03:18 PM:

Yes, indeed!

Posted by Don Furr (Member # 1469) on 04-27-2015, 04:24 PM:

Has anyone actually seen an anaglyph print? My 2D print was scope but NOT anaglyph. Maybe Paramount changed their minds and released all 2D scope prints to the Drive-In's.

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 04-27-2015, 04:34 PM:

I saw FRIDAY THE 13 -3D at the King Theatre in Honolulu in polarized 3D when it was released and the thing I remember the most of the presentation was how dark the picture was because unlike dual projection the new horror film was shown using a single projection "Over Under" system. The 3D effect was kind of cool especial during the opening credits when FRIDAY THE 13" came at you.

- Claude

Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 04-28-2015, 02:02 AM:

How did drive-ins usually handle 3D in the past decades? I know most of the 80s 3D movies were only in 2D, remember seeing a newspaper ad for "Jaws 3D" with a footnote "Drive-ins are not in 3D". What about in the 1950s? Notice that the indoor theaters at least didn't do any separate 2D showings like they do now. They didn't charge extra for them either!

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-28-2015, 07:08 AM:

And they didn't do any fancy upgrades for them either! About all an indoor did in the '80s was swap out a white screen for a silver screen. Lamp sizes were not, generally increased so you typically got a dimmer picture (as Claude noted above). The glasses were the cheapo cardboard frame things and were supplied by the studio. 3D was treated like the novelty that it is.

Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-28-2015, 08:42 AM:

There were dual-35mm 3-D interlock shows at drive-ins in the 1950's.

A wide variety of glasses were available in the 1982/83 period. If you were given cheap cardboard glasses, it was the theater cutting corners.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-28-2015, 09:33 AM:

As I recall, all of our glasses were provided by the studios for the particular movie with the various logos right on them. They eventually had the "Clark Kent" style cardboards. Note, the installers were issued plastic frames with larger lenses.

Now if you are doing revivals and such, yes, Deep 3D as well as Stereo Vision had all sorts of glasses for sale. But on 1st run, the studios supplied the glasses. It wasn't a matter of cutting corners, it was what it was.

Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-28-2015, 03:10 PM:

The mystery is solved.

It opened on 1,079 screens; 813 hardtops in polarized 3-D and 266 drive-ins played it flat.

There were no anaglyphic prints.

Thanks to everybody that contributed to the discussion!

Posted by Don Furr (Member # 1469) on 04-28-2015, 04:38 PM:

Bob I suspect that those drive in prints were not flat, but scope since the polarized prints were 2:35. The drive-in print I had was scope, non 3D.

Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-28-2015, 04:56 PM:

Yes, Don. My reference to flat meant 2-D.

Posted by Jim Cassedy (Member # 4115) on 04-28-2015, 09:32 PM:

Not sure how polarized 3D would work at a modern drive-in, since most cars now have
windshields that are polarized somewhat. I know if I put on a pair of polaroid 3D
glasses and looked through the windshield of my last car, different sections were
blotted out depending on the position of my head.

Probably why many 3D glasses come with warnings not to use them as sunglasses
or while driving!

("Albert-The-Cat" sees better
at nite with his 3D glasses!)

Posted by Robert Furmanek (Member # 7026) on 04-29-2015, 04:16 PM:

There are some new trade ads on our Silver Age 3-D page. Check it out!

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/silver-age-1966---1986