Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: A new 65 mm camera made in Denmark

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Posted by Helmut Maripuu (Member # 2281) on 05-21-2018, 04:59 PM:

http://www.biografmuseet.dk/nyheder/2018/magellan/index.htm
http://www.in70mm.com/news/2018/magellan/index.htm
http://www.in70mm.com/news/2018/logmar/gallery_2/index.htm

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 05-22-2018, 05:53 PM:

The camera

Posted by Thomas Hauerslev (Member # 566) on 05-23-2018, 03:17 AM:

The "Magellan 65" will be presented at CineGear next week in LA

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-23-2018, 12:24 PM:

But only a video viewfinder??????

Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 05-23-2018, 05:35 PM:

Simplifies the optical path, I guess - straight shot from lens to emulsion. Presumably a video rangefinder is cheaper to do than an SLR type optical viewfinder.

Posted by Kenneth Wuepper (Member # 1174) on 05-23-2018, 05:59 PM:

The video finder allows other monitors to view the image while taking the shot. This can be helpful in the event that another angle may be desirable based upon what the director sees in this camera's view.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-30-2018, 11:38 AM:

quote: Leo Enticknap
Presumably a video rangefinder is cheaper to do than an SLR type optical viewfinder.

Exactly! An optical shutter reflex viewing system is actually 2/3 of the cost of manufacturing most reflex film cameras. This rig would meke a great underwater camera, but I think many DP's would shy away from it because of the video finder only.Even reflex cameras have a straight optical path to the film plane, unless it is a pellicle reflex type.

Mark

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 05-30-2018, 06:26 PM:

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
But only a video viewfinder??????

Ironic how you used a picture of Jerry Lewis, there.

He's the guy who invented 24-frame video assist:

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lewis#Video_assist

During production of The Bellboy, Lewis pioneered the technique of using video cameras and multiple closed circuit monitors, which allowed him to review his performance instantly. This was necessary since he was acting as well as directing. His techniques and methods of video assist, documented in his book and his USC class, enabled him to complete most of his films on time and under budget since reshoots could take place immediately instead of waiting for the dailies. Lewis stated he worked with the head of Sony to develop the prototype. While he popularized the practice, and was instrumental in its development, he did not hold a patent. This practice is now commonplace in filmmaking.

Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 05-30-2018, 08:01 PM:

Why is the trend in newer cameras that boxy, cheap CNC look? I miss the older cameras like the Mitchells that had style and looked like a solid piece of kit.

The new stuff all looks like a high school design project...

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-30-2018, 09:44 PM:

Because they are made by CNC! Thats not to say that an old Mitchell NC or Standarad isn't also boxy...

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-30-2018, 10:19 PM:

What possible difference does it make what the capture system looks like if it works well?

Just asking. Never mind. [beer]

Posted by Kenneth Wuepper (Member # 1174) on 05-31-2018, 06:39 AM:

Since modern films are shot with accompanying sound. Reducing noise is more important than appearance. Blimping extra volume of camera can be cumbersome. Electronic view finders are also easier to blimp.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 05-31-2018, 07:06 AM:

This is sort of interesting but do we really need more 65mm cameras? I would assume that supply must exceed demand, or else Panavision and Arriflex would be building more of their existing models. I would tend to doubt that the current lack of 65mm production is the result of limited camera inventory at rental houses.