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Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 11-13-2018, 10:23 AM:

We're showing Dial M For Murder in 2D (right eye). I was jus testing it and noticed the bottom frame line is notched. I've only run one other dual 3D before and that was over 30 years ago. Didn't notice it then.
Did all dual 3D prints have notched framelines or is this peculiar to a specific studio?

Also, damn there's a lot of spare headroom in this film.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 11-15-2018, 10:33 AM:

Are you running it 1:33 or 1:85? It was shot with a 1:66 marked finder and intended to be run 1.85....

Mark

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 11-15-2018, 11:22 AM:

The can is labelled 1:33 by the studio. I was tempted to run it in 1:66 when I saw all of that headroom.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 11-15-2018, 04:22 PM:

I read in a Hitchcock book some years back that it's intended for 1.85, but shot 1.66. It is possible the 3-D print gets projected at 1.33 to increase brightness??? I saw it in 3-D back in the 1980's but can not remember what aspect it was presented in. No doubt the camera was either full frame or 1.33. You may want to see what aspect the 2-D Blu-ray is in and go with that. 3-D was about dead by the time this movie came out and Hitchcock knew that...

Mark

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 11-15-2018, 11:02 PM:

I tested it in 1:33 and it looked awful. So we ran it tonight in 1:85 and it was clearly composed for that AR.

I saw it, too, back in the late 70's early 80's re-release (at the Key Theatre in DC) and don't remember the AR, though I surely would have remembered all of the headroom.

Focus was horrendous. I don't know if that's a 3D artifact or a bad print. Wasn't us, as every now and then a scene was sharp. The print was in fairly good shape.

But bringing it back around to the original question. What's with the notched framlines?

Posted by Carl Martin (Member # 1146) on 11-16-2018, 04:29 AM:

when i've seen it, it's been 1.85 for sure. but i've never projected it (or any film in 3d) and can't comment on the framelines.

Posted by Sascha F. Roll (Member # 9043) on 11-16-2018, 07:31 AM:

The 3D DCP I screened several years ago at the Berlin International Film Festival was also 1.85, which looked a bit „squeezed“ in parts, If memory serves correct.