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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 05-14-2002, 06:50 AM:
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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 05-14-2002, 01:03 PM:
The entertainment industry is in a word, stupid. They always have been. Anyone care to argue with that?This digital recorder does the same thing as a VCR. With videotape people can share files such as pay-per-view events with non-subscribers. With the VCR people can skip commercials.
Everyone wants to control the world.
Posted by Bill Hallsworth (Member # 1240) on 05-14-2002, 01:31 PM:
Don't worry, I'm sure the CA legislature will find that these machines cause cancer or something and ban them. Anyone with a VCR or a DVD burner can do the same thing...why bother trying to limit another recording medium? And why do it in such a way that it will piss off a lot of people?
Posted by Jim Ziegler (Member # 86) on 05-14-2002, 02:55 PM:
This order is clearly unconstitutional. The government could not, without a warrent, collect such information. Nor can the government attempt to skirt the Constitution by requiring a civilian to collect such information. This order will be struck down in Federal court.
Posted by Dennis Atkinson (Member # 345) on 05-14-2002, 04:43 PM:
These are some of the same studios that paid to have the copyright laws
extended / changed so Mickey Mouse would not become public domain so soon. We'll see, it's the best government money can buy 
Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 05-14-2002, 07:38 PM:
<<Everyone wants to control the world.>>Joe, I think you mean "Everybody wants to rule the world." 
Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 05-14-2002, 10:47 PM:
Well legally it's not quite unconstitutional because it will not be the government who is collecting and using the information instead it will be a third party. So until there was a case where the information was used to prosecute someone for piracy there would be no legal remedy short of violating a provision in a privicy law that I am unaware of.