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Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 02-28-2002, 05:57 PM:
OK techno-geeks, I need some more insight on this. I have just purchased a Digital Camcorder, firewire card, DVD burning software, video editing software and I am ready to make family DVD's...except for the burner. I have the feeling that the R/W burners are the ones that will stick around but I need more info. Can someone point me to somewhere or give me info about each type of burner?
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-28-2002, 06:23 PM:
Get DVD-R or DVD-RW (Not DVD+RW!!!). These seem to yeild the most compatibility and cheapest prices. It will probably end up being the standard. DVD-RAM is cool but they won't play on regular DVD players. They usually come in the removable cases that surround the discs.
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 02-28-2002, 09:05 PM:
"I have just purchased a Digital Camcorder"Traitor! Where is your Super 8 camera?
Jerry, remembering the hours of editing home movies, laying on of sound stripe, and disgusting amounts of expensive film left in the editing bags.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 02-28-2002, 09:08 PM:
Super 8mm anamorphic shot on Kodak's Kodachrome 40 reversal stock. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good! 
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-28-2002, 09:18 PM:
Chris...I double dare you to print who you think is a techno-geek.
I noticed and made a record of the first three to respond. 
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 02-28-2002, 09:40 PM:
First 3 or first 4?
Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 03-01-2002, 05:43 AM:
Bob, those that post to this site are probably techno-geeks...myself included. 
It's an affectionate term. Let the flames begin...
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 03-01-2002, 06:54 AM:
or should I have said seven.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 03-01-2002, 07:43 AM:
Super-8 lives!: 
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/film.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/history.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/tips.shtml It's still very popular for students learning filmmaking, and finds much use in making Music Videos. KODAK VISION 200T Color Negative Film is even available in Super-8!
How many video formats have been successful for almost 40 years?
(BTW, 35mm film is over a century "new", and more prints were made last year than any time in history!).
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Posted by Michael Barry (Member # 237) on 03-01-2002, 08:14 AM:
I agree about Super-8, especially K-40! The last few times I used it, I shot at 24fps (instead of the more customary 18fps for this format) and thanks to the excellent Schneider optics on my hand-me-down Nizo camera, the results were spectacular. When I had the footage telecined at professional sites, the operators always commented how sharp the material was for super-8 and how it looked more like 16MM. (Photography is one of the things I do OK with!).
Unfortunately, on my last time out, my poor Nizo camera ground to a halt (or slowed down remarkably) during several shots, meaning it's probably nearing the end of its useful life (unless I find somewhere that can repair it). Of course, not many video cameras last 25 years or more...nor do many have picture quality like this!
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 03-01-2002, 06:09 PM:
After not being able to get the HP DVD+RW drive to work at all, I ended up with the Pioneer DVD-RW. I have not had much time to play with it for video, but I have burned a data disc successfully a time or two.FWIW, I plan on getting a Power Mac for my video work.
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 03-04-2002, 02:33 AM:
Out of interest, what are the prices like for this sort of kit in the US (and anywhere else in the world for that matter)? Consumer, set-top-box DVD-R/RW video recorders were launched last autumn in the UK at around UK£1,000 (around US$1,350 I'd guess) and the price has not reduced significantly since then. Internal, PC-based drives were costing around that this time last year, but have now dropped to a typical retail price of £400-500. So the price gap between DVD and CD burners is closing pretty quickly, for computer-based drives at least.Is the same market trend happening elsewhere?
Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 03-04-2002, 05:52 AM:
I have seen the prices for DVD burners (various types) starting around $500 now. I will be paying very close attention when they hit between $200-$300. I am assuming the standardization will be starting to show.
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 03-04-2002, 06:11 AM:
Substituting the $ for £, I was thinking exactly the same thing.The cost of the media is an issue too: known-brand CD-Rs can be had for £0.50-0.70 (around $1) but DVD-Rs still cost around £6-7 ($10). So with all factors taken into account the storage cost per megabyte still works out as significantly cheaper with CDs. When this eventually starts to change I can see myself handing over some hard-earned cash at the computer shop...