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Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 05-06-2003, 05:43 PM:
 
Paramount Home Entertainment will be releasing the Indiana Jones
films on October 21st, 2003. Like Paramount's three "Godfather Collection" on DVD, "The Adventures of Indiana Jones: The Complete DVD mMovie Collection" will be available only as a set.
The THX digitally remastered films, each restored by noted preservationists Lowry Digital Images, will be available in both widescreen and fullscreen versions with new Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtracks.
And their is a fourth disc with special features.
source: Daily Variety



[ 08-19-2003, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: Bill Gabel ]
 

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Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 05-06-2003, 06:11 PM:
 
Great news!

Now, if they can only get rid of full screen...
 

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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-06-2003, 06:18 PM:
 
Full-screen versions of the Indy Trilogy?
 

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Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 05-06-2003, 07:11 PM:
 
I noticed none of the Spielberg movies I have seen so far on DVD had a director`s commentary. Hopefully this edition will have it.
 

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Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 05-06-2003, 07:11 PM:
 
I hope Paramount will NOT package the FOOLscreen and widescreen versions of the Indy trilogy in the same box. That would mean each DVD-9 disc would get only half the normal data bandwidth for the anamorphic widescreen version. I want 16x9 enhanced 2.39:1 widescreen spread across both layers for all three films.

Foolscreen versions need to be sold separately. The only way it would work "single inventory" is if each movie had two discs to it (making the whole set a 6-disc or 7-disc affair).
 

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Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 05-07-2003, 07:11 AM:
 
There is another thread about this in Film-Yak. It says there will be no director`s commentary because Spielberg doesn`t like to do commentaries. That is sad. I am a big fan of that. I just watched the Godfather edition with Coppola`s commentary.
That reminds me that on the DVD of Lawrence of Arabia, Spielberg says that he once watched the whole film with David Lean who talked him through the whole film. It would have been great if Spielberg would have overcome his dislike of commentaries to retell for us what Lean had to say.
 

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-07-2003, 09:37 AM:
 
John D. Lowry (Lowry Digital Images) is a legend in the field of film-to-video transfers. He is a Life Fellow of the SMPTE, and founded Image Transform, one of the pioneer companies in the field:

http://www.thebigpicturedvd.com/bigreport11.shtml

http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/chi-021126film,0,1213961.story

Lowry Digital HD Transfers of "I Love Lucy"
 

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Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 05-07-2003, 02:05 PM:
 
Why would Paramount do full-frame DVDs of the Indiana Jones titles? All other Paramount DVDs -- including the Nickelodeon and Paramount Classics titles -- are strictly widescreen.

Maybe Stvn Splbrg demanded full-frame.
 

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Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 05-07-2003, 02:44 PM:
 
From my understanding, they will be two seperate box sets, one wide and one full. Unfortunately, with the wide acceptance of DVD, joe six pack wants that TV set FILLED! The joke will be on him down the line, though. He'll have to re-buy when he gets that widescreen TV (or just suffer through the STRETCH to fill it, which he probably wont be able to tell, anyway0.
 

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-08-2003, 12:09 PM:
 
Good news about letterbox vs. "fool screen":

http://www.showbizdata.com/contacts/picknews.cfm?id=32260

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Movie renters, who once overwhelmingly preferred full-frame versions of their films now generally prefer the so-called letterbox version, according to the Blockbuster chain. "We made a decision to purchase the majority of titles we bring in on DVD in the widescreen format," Blake Lugash, spokesman for the chain, said. "We try to follow our customer preferences. As DVD becomes increasingly popular, they become more familiar with the features and with the benefits of letterboxing. They've learned it's a superior format to full-frame." He noted that 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment and MGM Home Entertainment offer both version on a single disc -- a policy that other studios ought to follow, Lugash said.

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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-08-2003, 12:12 PM:
 
Well, maybe there's hope for the masses after all!
 

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Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 05-08-2003, 06:30 PM:
 
On the surface it may seem okay to include both widescreen and 1.33:1 versions in the same package. The advantage is brick and mortar stores like Wal-Mart that are more prone to carry more in the way of full frame will have the widescreen version in regardless.

With a highly anticipated title like "Raiders of the Lost Ark" there shouldn't be any compromise, no matter how "inconvenienced" the average Joe-sixpack newbie to DVD may feel in being confused by separate fullscreen and widescreen versions.
 

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Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 05-09-2003, 12:35 AM:
 
Walmart must have different stocking policies for different stores around the country. I've seen many complaints about them stocking only fullframe from a lot of different people, but in our local stores one can usually find both the pan-and-scan and OAR editions. Costco here at one time started full frame only editions (if one was available) but in the past year or so has carried the OAR editions ONLY (with the current exception of CATCH ME IF YOU CAN, which is availbale in both).

I was at a KMART recently and decided to pick up an old favorite from when I was a kid, BIG RED, even though the box said it was full frame (assuming it was open matte). Much to my deliughtful surprise, it was a flipper with both versions on it!
 

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Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 05-12-2003, 10:10 PM:
 

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Why would Paramount do full-frame DVDs of the Indiana Jones titles? All other Paramount DVDs -- including the Nickelodeon and Paramount Classics titles -- are strictly widescreen.

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Paramount Home Entertainment has released a number of titles on DVD simultaneously in both wide and full screen, including:

On same disc:
Hey Arnold! The Movie
Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
Mission: Impossible
The Rugrats Movie
Top Gun
The Wild Thornberrys Movie

Separate releases:
The Core
The Four Feathers
Grease
How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days
The Hunted
The Italian Job (2003)
Jackass: The Movie
Martin Lawrence: Runteldat
Serving Sara
Star Trek: Nemesis

Post edited to add Star Trek: Nemesis to list.

Post edited July 28 to add more titles to list.

Post edited Aug 12 to add new title to list.

[ 08-12-2003, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: Michael Coate ]
 

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Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 05-13-2003, 01:00 AM:
 
I would just love to see people's faces who have been buying full screen versions of movies on DVD that were available in both versions when they eventually buy a new TV with a 16X9 format screen and see black bars on the two sides instead of the top and bottom.

-Claude
 

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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-13-2003, 08:34 AM:
 
"John D. Lowry (Lowry Digital Images) is a legend in the field of film-to-video transfers. He is a Life Fellow of the SMPTE, and founded Image Transform, one of the pioneer companies in the field:"
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He may be all that but Sir David Lean woulda still despised him and his equipment!!
Mark
 

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-13-2003, 09:44 AM:
 

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He may be all that but Sir David Lean woulda still despised him and his equipment!!
Mark

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But if you want to release it for home viewing on DVD, Mr. Lowry's work is among the best.
 

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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-13-2003, 11:23 AM:
 
Re: Fool-screen DVDs on 16:9 sets: They'll just put the set into "zoom mode" so the whole screen is filled up and they'll be happy as clams.
 

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Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 05-13-2003, 03:26 PM:
 
I can't help but think of the South Park Free Hat (Raiders of the Lost Ark) episode.
 

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Posted by Paul Howard (Member # 1706) on 05-18-2003, 05:39 AM:
 
luckily here in the UK the 8 BBC channels, ITV 1 & 2, Channel 4, E4 and Channel 5 all broadcast in 16:9 anamorphic on their digital services and letterbox 14:9 on the analogue service as standard, yep even the nightly soaps are in widescreen. So 16:9 tvs are much more commonplace in homes here. They dont even release fullscreen versions of films here on dvd. It stops the confusion for the masses and plus they all see the films in their OAR.

That doesnt mean people dont watch films and TV in ZOOM mode, MELON HEAD mode or something else that is wrong.

Back to subject. The Indy trilogy will be a treasure to behold, unless Lucas ruins them by adding unwanted new crap into these classics.

Take Care all.

[ 05-18-2003, 07:10 AM: Message edited by: Paul Howard ]
 

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Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 05-18-2003, 12:00 PM:
 
Paul -- But you see, people in this country don't like to do things the right way, because that would be implying that the way they have been doing it is wrong and people hate to be wrong no matter what. That's why I have to sit through flattened and stretched TV programs at my friend's house because: "I paid $X for this TV so it should fill the screen!"

Besides, if we allowed directors and producers of film and television shows to ONLY broadcast or release them in their true, intended ratio, then the consumerist public wouldn't have the FREEDOM to crop, stretch, flip, invert, or otherwise mangle their work to our satisfaction. [SARCASM off]

Back to Indy: It's about time! I remember seeing a less-than-ample presentation of the trilogy via some beaten-up prints at a multiplex that was doing a screening. Cool, but the damage interfered with the movie in some places. It was the first time I ever saw all 3 in their entirity. I just hope there's no framing issues like with BTTF.

IMHO, they should release the widescreen editions as normal, but to get the P&S (POS?) versions, one should have to buy the superdeluxultramegamega edition which would include the trilogy in widescreen, a book, film frames, making-of, and other junk to jack up the price, AND a disc with the trilogy in fullscreen. That should teach 'em!

=TMP=
 

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Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 05-18-2003, 05:18 PM:
 
Some people probably think that the TV is broken when they see the black stripes...And yes, of course, they paid a lot of money for the big TV set, so they are entitled to have it filled!
Maybe I should put a Graemlin here:

That reminds me of two Russian filmmakers who showed up at the Berlin Film Festival and insisted that their movie (optical mono/1:1,66) should be played in CinemaScope and Dolby Digital. When I asked them "why?" and "how?", they said they had heard those were the best formats and they wanted to see their movie in the best possible formats...OK.
 

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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 05-18-2003, 05:59 PM:
 
Mike, they probably went to UCLA's film school.

Yea USC!

>>> Phil
 

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Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 07-28-2003, 06:31 PM:
 
Bump (to reflect edited post from earlier in thread).
 

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Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 08-19-2003, 10:41 AM:
 
Paramount has bumped up the release date to October 21st. 2003 for "Raiders of the Lost Ark" Box set.
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 08-22-2003, 10:42 PM:
 
If they ever do get around to making INDY 4 then I hope they will give us all new boxes. I don't like the idea of having a random movie floating around separately from the others in a box set.

I'm seriously considering not buying the box set until the fourth one is made and released on DVD as part of a 4-film box set.

And what's the point of declaring something a "trilogy" only to go ahead and add a fourth part?

Or...in the case of STAR WARS...a fourth, fifth and sixth part?
 

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Posted by Paul Howard (Member # 1706) on 08-23-2003, 05:21 AM:
 
At least George (Shmucas) Lucas has not messed around with the movies by adding so called "new improved" effects.
I look forward to purchasing the region 1 set as the region 2, 4% PAL speed up irritates me and mostly ruins epic sweeping musical passages more than anything else. As we all know the Indy films have great musical scores.
 

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Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 08-24-2003, 06:29 PM:
 
Is there any truth that they will digitally clean up errors in the picture, like the reflection of the glass during the cobra scene?
 

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Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 10-08-2003, 08:46 PM:
 
Just got the boxset in this afternoon. "Raiders" has not looked and sounded this good since the opening night I saw it in Westwood, Ca..
 

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Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 10-21-2003, 10:08 AM:
 
I picked my set up last night (after 12:00 PM) and have only watched an hour or so of Raiders...

It has been a while since I have seen Raiders on the big screen and at least a couple of years since I have seen it on TV. That being said, does anyone else think that the picture dosn't look quite right on the new boxed set? I bought the widescreen version but the picture looks really narrow (similar to running a scope movie in flat, but just not as bad). Or is it suppose to look this (an artistic thing or something)?

Also I may be wrong but one of Indy's lines seems to have been changed. Near the beginning of the movie when Indy and Brody are meeting with the two men from Washington and they are looking at the drawing of the Ark, the men ask Indy about the rays of light that are coming from the Ark. In this version, Indy says that it is lightning, fire, the power of God "or something". Now correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I remember him saying... lightning, fire, the power of God "if you believe in that sort of thing". Am I right or wrong about this (maybe I am thinking of a line from Crusade or something)? If I am right does anyone know if it was edited or was it just a different take of the same scene? It is hard to tell because his back is to the camera and he is walking away when he delivers the line.
 

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Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 10-22-2003, 06:12 PM:
 
Overall the quality on the new Indy boxed set is really pretty good. "Raiders" looks great for a movie made over 20 years ago. But the mix seemed a little odd to me as well. Does anyone else think the center channel is a little on the weak side? Some of the dialog sounded a bit too low.
 

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Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 10-26-2003, 12:06 AM:
 
I haven't checked out the new DVDs yet but I have the 1992 laserdisc version of Raiders of the Lost Ark in which Indy does, indeed, say, "The power of God or something." So if there was another version of that line it was changed before 1992.
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 11-04-2003, 06:36 PM:
 
The new Indy DVDs are EXACTLY the same as the LaserDiscs as far as the feature content goes. They didn't change anything. There is still a missing frame when Indy and Brody are talking to the guys in the above scene with the line in question from "Raiders"... watch the scene where Indy is walking slowly from right to left in the background and the two government guys are between the camera and them.... there is a frame missing that was also missing in the LaserDisc. They made no enhancements except the 5.1 audio and the picture quality is cleaner due to the DVD format.

I haven't checked yet, but I am betting that Temple of Doom is still a yawner. They probably have that annoying thing in it called "Two Short", "Take Two" or "Short Round" or whatever the character's name was. They should have cut that out. I bet it was Lucas who insisted he be in there since he likes movies with annoying characters who the audience wants to kill. It's been a long time since I've seen Temple of Doom, but that's how I remember it. I also remember the bitch being whiny and annoying (Spielberg's ho).
 

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Posted by Brad Haven (Member # 954) on 11-04-2003, 10:11 PM:
 
in australia the indiana jones trilogy is being broadcast in HD (1080i) on channel ten (free to air) on sunday nights, is this being done in other countries?
i caught temple of doom last sunday, the image quality was very good, i missed raiders if the lost ark in HD, so i'm going to get the box set to see raiders of the lost ark and all the wonderful extras.
i hadn't seen temple of doom for about 8 years and it honestly felt like i had never seen it before, it was quite a yawner!!
 

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 11-05-2003, 12:35 PM:
 
Brad Haven wrote:

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in australia the indiana jones trilogy is being broadcast in HD (1080i) on channel ten (free to air) on sunday nights, is this being done in other countries?

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FCC agrees to employ 'broadcast flag'

By Brooks Boliek
WASHINGTON -- In a victory for Hollywood and the broadcast industry, federal regulators Tuesday approved a copyright control mechanism designed to protect movies and television programs distributed digitally.

The FCC's approval of the "broadcast flag" regulations is a long-sought goal of the makers of television shows, movies and sports programming who feared that their products would be pirated without the protections.

In its order, the FCC told makers of digital television receivers that by July 1, 2005, their models must recognize an electronic marker that broadcasters can embed in their programs to limit piracy.

MPAA president and CEO Jack Valenti said the decision will help preserve free, over-the-air television.

"This puts digital TV on the same level playing field as cable and satellite delivery," Valenti said. "All the way around, the consumer wins, and free TV stays alive."

FCC chairman Michael Powell said the decision was an "important step" in the nation's transition to digital TV. DTV transmissions allow for the broadcast of several standard definition channels or the broadcast of the high-definition TV with its supersharp picture and CD-quality sound.

"The digital television transition rolls on," he said. "Because broadcast TV is transmitted 'in the clear,' it is more susceptible than encrypted cable or satellite programming to being captured and retransmitted via the Internet. The widespread redistribution of broadcast TV content on the Internet would unnecessarily drive high-value programming to more secure delivery platforms."

While the commission agreed to implement a broadcast flag regulation, it avoided selecting one single technology, a proposal pushed by the entertainment and broadcast industries. Rather, it agreed to set up a certification process for content protection methods that could be proven to meet "objective" protection criteria.

The commission also exempted digital VCRs, DVD players and personal computers that are not built with digital tuners from the rule. It also required that existing televisions, VCRs, DVD players and related equipment will remain fully functional under the new broadcast flag system.

Although the commission approved Tuesday's order on a 5-0 vote, commissioners Michael Copps and Jonathan Adelstein took exception to parts of the order. The commissioners feared that the rule will unfairly restrict the public from receiving works that aren't copyrighted and public affairs programming. They also raised concerns that the flag can be used to track viewing habits.

"Broadcasters are given the right to use the public's airwaves in return for serving their communities," Copps wrote. "The widest possible dissemination of news and information serves the best interests of the community. We should therefore be promoting the widest possible dissemination of news and information consistent, of course, with the copyright laws. And neither the FCC nor the broadcast flag should interfere with the free flow of noncopyrightable material."

While the broadcast and entertainment industries supported the commission's action, technology companies and consumer groups wanted a different outcome. They fear that the flag is a steppingstone to initiating a pay-for-play environment.

"While we have not yet seen the specific content of the order, we continue to have reservations about the need for regulatory intervention in this area at this time," said Robert Holleyman, president and CEO of the Business Software Alliance, a trade group representing the commercial software and hardware industries.

CBS and UPN parent Viacom praised the FCC's action in a statement issued late Tuesday. Viacom has been one of the most vocal proponents of the FCC's need to adopt the broadcast flag as a preventative measure against digital piracy.

"Today's decision by the FCC is an historic step forward for consumers," Viacom said. "By mandating broadcast flag technology in devices equipped to receive digital broadcast television, the Commission has resolved to protect broadcast content and ensure that Americans will continue to receive free, high quality programming in the digital age."

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