Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: T2-Extreme Defective Cases

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Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 06-10-2003, 02:00 PM:

T2 Extreme Edition DVD defective cases. The metal case it comes in has many DVD buyer finding that the fancy metal case will quickly terminate the plastic amary case inside. Artisan has been quick to acknowledge the problem and they've setup an e-mailaddress to e-mail for a replacment case cs@artisanent.com
(send e-mails to them at that address)
Since the metal cases are limitedthey are only going to replace the plastic inside case. Our advise is to not put the new case back in the metal sleeve as it WILL tear it. [Eek!]

This came from DVD Empire.com

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-10-2003, 06:07 PM:

T2 is simply waaay 2 ExTrEmE for the case and that is why it ends up defective.

You may just want to wait for T2 Excessive/Insane Edition. It will not have defective cases, as it is not as ExTrEmE as the current T2 edition. But you will need a dolly and a tractor trailer to get it home since it is so excessive. They have video of Edward Furlong taking a dump in his trailer dude! Talk about extreme! They have so many extras it is insane. Rumor has it that the movie itself is even included on 1 of the discs!!!!1!!!111!!1!!!@ No way!!!!!

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 06-14-2003, 03:10 PM:

I agree that the case for the new "T2" release sucks but the picture and sound quality of the new release is the best it has ever been because I have owned and watched every previous versions on Super 8mm video, VHS, laserdisc and the last two DVD.

-Claude

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 06-14-2003, 07:45 PM:

Claude, did they re-do the sound again for this new release?

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 06-14-2003, 11:19 PM:

Ron,

It does appear they did some additional work with the soundtrack because the mix is now in Dolby Digital EX. Because Artisan strived for the best picture quality and added a Dolby Headphone track, A DTS track was not included this time. The Dolby track is just as good and very aggressive. The rear tract has a lot of energy and if your home system is equipped for EX and you have rear speaker(s), you will be in for a treat!

-Claude

[ 06-15-2003, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: Claude S. Ayakawa ]

Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 06-15-2003, 12:03 AM:

The previous release (Ultimate Edition) was also Dolby Digital Surround EX.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-15-2003, 02:21 PM:

Claude,

Super 8mm video? What is that? Super 8mm is a film format. Video has 8mm and Hi8, but neither are "super" and neither are formats in which movies are released (both are camcorder formats). What is this mystery format of which you speak? [Smile]

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 06-15-2003, 04:52 PM:

Joe,

What was I thinking? [Smile]

You are right. I used to shoot a lot of Super 8 movie films both silent and sound for my personal use years ago before video cams became affordable and when I typed 8mm, The word super came to mind and I typed it in by mistake. Sorry! The 8mm video format was very good and I had a special Sony deck to play back the movies I had on that format. In my opinion, it was much better than VHS. The "TERMINATOR II" tape was in full screen but the composition of the picture did not look too bad because James Cameron had specially worked with the people who created the full screen master from the original Super 35 film source and did a great job recomposing the picture for full screen.

-Claude

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 06-15-2003, 05:24 PM:

No EX here. I bought my receiver just before EX came out in home equipment. Too bad about no DTS track, the one on the ultimate edition shakes the house, especially the Van Ling T2 THX snipe.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-15-2003, 05:32 PM:

So which is best... Ultimate or Extreme? From what Claude has said, the Extreme has the best picture quality. But it sounds like the DTS track on Ultimate might be the best sound. For the Excessive/Insane Edition maybe it will be Discrete DTS 6.1?

Also, I really don't care about extras. And the less motion menus you are forced to sit through before selecting "play" the better.

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 06-16-2003, 08:41 AM:

I would say Ultimate Edition, the extra footage in the Extreme edition isn't worth " double dipping " again to see. Hearing James Cameron's feature length commentary would be interesting to hear.

The Extreme edition does have a clearer picture without Edge Enhancement.

I'd say Ultimate Edition for the best sound simply for the DTS track. The Servo 15 takes a beating in the opening sequence of the movie.

Posted by Steve Anderson (Member # 364) on 07-06-2003, 09:26 AM:

What a pice of crap the metal case is!
I have emailed for my replacement plastic case.
Will have to wait for months that....

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-06-2003, 04:02 PM:

Play it double system. Listen to the "Ultimate" disc while you watch the video from the "Extreme" disc, thus making a "Phanatical" presentation!

It seems Artisan is so excited about having a good mainstream movie that they can't get enough of re-releasing this one. Supposedly there is a Windows Media Player 9 high definition version and there is also a D-VHS version in high def. No DVD can compare to those two...or better yet a 70mm print!

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 07-06-2003, 04:48 PM:

Brad,

There is a version that you need Windows Media Player, it's 1080p and requires a pretty fast computer.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-09-2003, 03:02 PM:

What is "X-Treme" about this T2 edition? Does the disc pop out of the case and do back flips and land in the DVD player tray on its own? Does a midget run out and bust your kneecaps with a mallet at random while you watch it? Does the case grab your mountain bike and do crazy tricks?

If nothing like this happens, it is not extreme. It is simply just another copy of T2.

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 07-09-2003, 05:14 PM:

Taking this back to the original subject, I received a complete new case for T2: Whatever edition from Artisan on 7/8/03. It was the complete case with the outside paper insert and 2-DVD holders inside.

I was VERY careful taking the original out of the metal package, and it still ripped the side right out! Great product testing there!

Metal case IS nice, though. It's now on the shelf as a display and NOT on the DVD.