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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-09-2004, 08:18 PM:

I saw this on another audio site today and had to share it with all of you....

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 05-09-2004, 09:00 PM:

Haha.

Go to any Home Theater website and do a search on Bose. Some of the posts that people have made about their hatred of Bose is downright hilarious.

About a year ago, someone posted a situation they were in at a home show and visited the " Bose Room " for a demo. Most of the room is curtained off except the for the speakers and a display monitor.

After watching the demo, the guy peeked behind the curtains and saw what was powering the demo, and it wasn't their little convenient Lifestyles unit. The guy said he saw Krell amps running back there.

But Bose does have one fantastic marketing department. Offering stores and salespeople concessions for every Bose product they sell. Too bad Dr. Bose couldn't take that money and invest it into solid cabinets and better quality drivers.

Posted by Mike Olpin (Member # 1115) on 05-09-2004, 09:47 PM:

I hate it when I get into discussions with people about sound, and the conversation turns to Bose. People are always telling me about how great their systems sound. I don't get it. Have people actually listened to these systems, or do they just believe Bose sounds better because they've been taught to believe that by slick marketing and high prices?

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-09-2004, 11:31 PM:

Dr. Amar "I'll sue your ass if you don't like my speakers!" Bose

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 05-10-2004, 01:19 AM:

Bose sued JBL over some patent issues concerning the port design in their home speakers. This caused them to change their designs in the Northridge and Studio series.

I still haven't heard any Bose system play heavy metal or hard rock music, as most of the demos play classical music. The real test would be to hear how those little cubes can hold up to some AC/DC.

Doesn't anyone else find it funny how they don't post the specs on their speakers?

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-10-2004, 11:22 AM:

Generally, products have to meet manufacturers' published specifications.

86 year old radio broadcaster Paul Harvey endorses Bose products:

http://dir.salon.com/people/bc/2001/09/25/harvey/index.html

quote:
...you'll keep on caring when he proclaims, "Now, Page 2," and seamlessly segues from current events to an impassioned pitch for Chevy's Impala or the dietary supplement Citracal (the "cit" is for "citrus," the "cal" is for "calcium" ... did you know that osteoporosis is pre-ven-ta-ble?), or the Bose Wave Radio. Lord, how he loves that radio....

...During another 1988 television appearance, CNN's Larry King asked him if being such an unabashed shill (though not in those words) had affected his reputation as a broadcaster. Defending himself adamantly, Harvey proclaimed in that impossibly cool and confident manner of his, "These people are putting their money where my mouth is. And if I were to turn my back on them and say someone else has to do that commercial, I wouldn't do it. This is a dreadful affront. Some days," he continued, expounding on his oft-stated belief, "the best news in the broadcast is the commercial...

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-10-2004, 12:23 PM:

Bose sued Consumer Reports over negative comments CR made about Bose speakers.

Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 05-10-2004, 07:53 PM:

Paul Harvey was promoting Bose car audio in 1982-85, too. In fact, one of the reasons that I bought my 1985 Oldsmobile Toronado in 1986 was the Delco-Bose system that it uses.

Now, in 2004, I've replaced the Blaupunkt tape deck in the Delco radio, and re-coned all of the speakers in the Bose system, along with all of the capacitors in the individual amplifiers.

The thing will once again rattle my windows.

It can't hold a candle to one of these rolling boom boxes that I usually follow down the road...

I've never owned any other Bose system. I didn't like what I saw a few years ago at Circuit City, and bought Cerwin Vegas.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 05-10-2004, 08:16 PM:

Paul Harvey? Yeah! What a great endorsement! I'm SURE he **MUST** be a great judge of the superb sound that Bose has *ALWAYS* had. [puke]

I mean at 86, he must be deaf in one ear and can't hear in the other. Yeah! I love the 300-3000 Hz response of the "experts"!

ANOTHER "Golden Ear"!

I gunna go git me a Bose system and then go to Disneyland!

>>> Phil

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-10-2004, 09:53 PM:

I certainly don't pretend to have the sense of hearing I had when I was twenty. Unfortunately, many ruin their hearing at an early age today, especially with personal headsets you can hear playing from across the street. [Frown]

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 05-10-2004, 10:08 PM:

I agree John, many people have damaged their hearing over the years by listening to audio at a much too high level...headphones or not.

And it starts much earlier than in their 20's whether from "natural" causes or from the mechanical damage from loud music.

>>> Phil

Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 05-10-2004, 10:19 PM:

My hearing loss has been a gradual thing since birth. I usually use headphones alot to listen to music at a comfortable level, but I've heard things here and there how they say the bacteria levels on headphones may be bad. I noticed how some early broadcasters are deaf in one ear where they held the headphone to their ear. Don't know if it's a coincidence or not.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-10-2004, 10:44 PM:

"I gunna go git me a Bose system and then go to Disneyland!"

And Phil, don't forget to take your Paul Harvey Occular Regeneration medecine so you know for sure that you're really at Disneyland and knott Knotts Berry Farm when you get there [eyes]

Now you know the rest of the story .

Good Day!

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 05-11-2004, 03:44 AM:

GM was installing Bose systems in all their higher end cars in the mid to late 80's. All the Corvettes from that era have Bose systems installed.

Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 05-11-2004, 06:59 AM:

Yeah, Ron, Once when my Delco-Bose (DB) was dead, I borrowed a DB radio out of a Corvette so I could make a drive to New Orleans and Mardi Gras. It worked, but it really sucked. GM claimed that all the different radios were EQ'd to the interior of the cars. I was sure glad when I got mine fixed and back in the car. Had to drive 10 hours with the dash board all ripped apart and ugly. Had my usual good time at Mardi Gras, and drove home.

The MAIN reason that I have never updated this system is: It would be a major pain to do in this car.

Posted by Michael Barry (Member # 237) on 05-11-2004, 12:33 PM:

My all-time favourite Bose tag-line:

'No highs, no lows...must be Bose!'

Michael.

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 05-11-2004, 02:19 PM:

Bruce,

Isn't there a system of pipes or tubes running throughout the car for the Bose system?

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 05-11-2004, 04:10 PM:

I agree, Bose speakers are highly overrated and it's appeal is only limited to some members of the general public who actually believe they are buying the best when they purchase
them. Although Bose speaker systems are over hyped, I love my Bose acoustic noise canceling headset , I had mine for about a year and a half and have used it on many flights and my bus trips several times a week into Honolulu.

-Claude

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 05-11-2004, 04:32 PM:

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
And Phil, don't forget to take your Paul Harvey Occular Regeneration medecine...

You know what's really strange, Mark? I never needed glasses until I turned 13...just after hair started growing on my palms. Go figure...

>>> Phil

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-11-2004, 06:55 PM:

"Isn't there a system of pipes or tubes running throughout the car for the Bose system?"
_________________________________________________________________

I seem tor remember reading that those cars have a regenerative exhaust system that is tuned to 1/4 wavelength for the bass loading [Eek!]

.

Mark

Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 05-12-2004, 09:08 AM:

Ouch! [Big Grin]

The only thing funky about this system is the BIG speaker boxes installed in each door, and the 2 installed behind the back seat. Each has its own 25 watt amplifier. I cant easily describe 'em, but it looks klunky.

The biggest problem I've had time and time again with this system is the Blaupunkt cassette transport. I have gone through 5 rebuilds over the years, and finally, after I had enough torture, I bought a NOS deck from GM. They were sooo proud of this unit! After 7 years, now I need to repair the cassette EQ switch. I can touch it, and hear the change in the high-end.

Why not replace the system?
Why not replace the car?

Simple: I like things that are paid for.

If this car used a tuned exhaust pipe, it's long-gone. [Wink]

I'll keep this one until it won't move anymore.

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 05-13-2004, 08:20 PM:

I certainly am not a fan of BOSE, but I'd like to point out that they excell in the area of making things simple.

I have some elderly in-laws and trying to find a CD-Radio that they could use was very very difficult. They don't understand knobs and switches and flashing lights...they understand putting in a CD like they used to put on an LP, pressing one button and hearing music. One volume control and one tone control. Anything more would be FAR more than they could handle. (I finally found a simple CD-Radio that did the job for them for about $99.)

Bose products are for the people that don't want to mess. Turn it on and leave it. A good friend of mine bought a 1-2-3 system, with 3 speakers, a bass unit(I can't bring myself to call it a sub) and that's it. Minimal wires, minimal fuss. That is all she wanted, and it works well for her.

I'm sure that's why Bose advertises on Paul Harvey...his listening audience tilts toward the more "mature" and they want things simple and compact.

I wish more companies would produce simple items like this. I tried to find a simple remote that would work one device, and I just couldn't find one out there. The minimum is 3, and that is just too many for elderly with degenerative illnesses.

Oh, one more thing about Bose...I love the way Paul Harvey Jr. punches the word BOSE when he introduces his father..."Brought to you by the B-O-S-E Corporation!!!"

As for me, I like my JBL and Polk speakers, and no Bose will ever darken my family room.

[ 05-14-2004, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: Mark Lensenmayer ]

Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 05-13-2004, 09:24 PM:

Not to make fun of elderly people, but most of the " positive " remarks about Bose and their products directly relates to elderly people. These people generally need hearing assistant devices and can barely hear.

So the " quality " sound of Bose products doesn't seem to matter over the ease of use. That being said, why not go get a Radio Shack cheapie radio for 1/4 the cost?

As for their " subs "? I wouldn't call them subwoofers either, because they aren't. Best guess would put them in the 50-60hz range.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-14-2004, 07:22 PM:

"Best guess would put them in the 50-60hz range."

The Cinema version was much longer and went down to the 25 to 30hz region easily. I believe it was a half wavelength pipe.

Mark

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 05-31-2004, 09:37 AM:

But... the Bose Acoustic Wave machine can make the deaf hear again! (Didn't Harve Pauly get in hot water several years ago for saying something like that?)