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Posted by Louie Gonsalves (Member # 7097) on 09-10-2012, 08:27 PM:
 
What are the things that go a long way to make Home Cinema Done Right? Does the gear matter than the room, or is it the other way around?

To me, the room makes or breaks the cinema. I didn't used to think like this until I made my current room and saw the finished picture and sound was a lot better than it was before. To be honest, the picture showed the most improvement.

After a few tries (three with CRT TV, this is the 2nd with projector), I think I got it right, but what made it possible was buying a house. I was a rental apartment guy until 2 years ago and took a 9x11 bedroom and made it into my cinema. So here are the lessons I learned in what it takes to make a home cinema be like a real cinema:

I truly belive it's the room that matters the most. Middling equipment in an outstanding room will do better than outstanding equipment in a mediocre room. Or so I think..
Once I got it all finished and had put in the bookshelves, lined up and focused the projector and calibrated the sound and picture, I had my best friend over. He didn't get to see the thing under construction. He stepped in and with a long low whistle said "This looks just like a real theater, not a home theater." Then we rolled Master and Commander, uncompressed, low voices about 40db and cannonfire about 95. 55db dynamic range. He then said "Sounds better than any theater here, and looks sharper." We both saw this in the Muvico 18 when it originally released. Their low end was flatulent, perhaps a broken sub driver?
Best compliment any home cinema can get. "Looks and sounds like the real thing, not like a home cinema."

Total investment: 2 months labor (all me save for the carpet). The speakers are 10 years old. The screen and receiver are 7, the projector's 3. The tracks, tracklights and dimmer are 6 years old. All that gear put together plus the paint, wires, chairs, lights, etc is less $ than the big plasmas - which aren't 7 ft wide yet. [Wink]

And the last piece to complete the illusion:

The only other things I could possibly add to put this toy cinema over the top would be four-way masking, and motorized screen curtains with a painted or embroidered logo.. my toy cinema's name is "Cinema Ink and Paint" -- I love cartoons. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 09-10-2012, 09:02 PM:
 
Assuming that we are talking about video (though I've probably seen more home film screening rooms than video-only rooms), the big things for me are:

- 2.35 (2.39, whatever) screen with proper masking--video people almost never get masking right for some reason, despite the fact that it makes a huge difference in the viewing experience

- speakers behind screen or at least immediately above or below it--not on the floor or in the ceiling; also, something that reasonably approximates cinema loudspeakers...not little cube speakers or Muzak-style ceiling speakers

- sound system properly calibrated

- room and screen size in proper proportion, with some kind of acoustical treatment to keep noise out

- all material shown in the correct aspect ratio and sound format

Honestly, though, it's all just an approximation of the real thing. Movies look, sound, and feel different in a big room than in a small one. I'd rather watch movies in a theatre than pretty much any screening room (with the possible exception of Brad's). And, no, a 60" plasma TV with a Blu-Ray player and some cheesy home speakers does not constitute a "home theatre." Admittedly, I'm a bit cheap about this...my apartment has a 20" CRT TV and 16mm; sound is through my home stereo. My neighbor's apartment has 16mm and 35mm. But if I want a real cinema experience, I'll go to a theatre after hours.

At some point, I would like to see a really good video room in someone's home. I'm sure that the really high-end versions are pretty decent.
 
Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 09-10-2012, 11:36 PM:
 
That's one of my life goals Scott: a truly state of the art home theatre (non-cinema equipment). I've got some amazing ideas, just haven't created the income yet to put it into practice.

And trust me, I wouldn't screw up the masking. [Smile]

AJG
 
Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 751) on 09-11-2012, 12:25 PM:
 
Louie,

If you are not already aware of them, the following forums are dedicated specifically to home theatre and will probably be of interest to you.

AVS Forum

Home Theatre Forum
 
Posted by Joe Tommassello (Member # 4632) on 09-11-2012, 03:08 PM:
 
No room dimension should be half or double another dimension. For example if your room is 14 feet wide it should be more or less than 28 in length and more or less than 7 in height. Apparently this has some bearing on the way low frequencies move around the room.
 




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