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Posted by Jonathan Goeldner (Member # 4854) on 07-26-2013, 09:29 PM:

I must admit I was 7 in 1977 and actually remembered the theatrical experience of the 70mm presentation of 'Star War'- the whoosh of the starships from the back of the theater to the front in the opening scene - since then it seemed that mixing with surround sound got more and more aggressive and more prominent.

The question here is: were there any film prior to 1977 where either the 35mm or 70mm mixes had 'loud' surround sound? The only one that pops into mind is the quad mix of 'Tommy' since it supposedly mirrors what's heard on the bluray edition of the film (which in of itself is quite impressive)

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 5226) on 08-14-2013, 05:49 PM:

Earthquake...1974...Sensurround.

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 08-14-2013, 07:28 PM:

Almost all of the four track mag release with CinemScope films in the fifties were very impressive starting with THE ROBE. SOME OF THE FILMS I remember with great sound include THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY, GREEN MANSIONS, and many Fox and MGM musicals like GIGI, BRIGADOON, THERE'S NO BUSINESS LIKE SHOW BUSINESS and SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS.

-Claude

Posted by Connor Wilson (Member # 6088) on 08-17-2013, 07:05 PM:

The original 70mm six track mix (five front/mono surround) of "2001: A Space Odyssey" (1968) was assertive and engaging when I heard it in screen #1 of the AFI Silver during their 70mm Spectacular last year. There is a high chance the print was DTS-70 with the original mix. It sounded harsher than modern films though, maybe due to the tape deterioration of the master or the Academy curve wasn't applied to the soundtrack when it was being mastered to DTS CD-ROMs. There was hissing in a few quiet moments during the film.

EDIT: The print was in Dolby SR with the original mix. Just checked on in70mm.com

Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 08-30-2013, 10:48 AM:

Even when played with the proper EQ, my (admittedly subjective) impression has been that pre-Dolby 70mm mag tracks always sound a bit 'brighter' (i.e. more detail in the HF) than SVA or digital optical. Personally I like them that way - they remind me of a vinyl LP played on silly money high end equipment rather than a CD played on a $39.99 boom box from Target.

Posted by Jack Theakston (Member # 4484) on 09-21-2013, 06:42 PM:

THE MUSIC MAN comes to mind as a very aggressive surround track—much of the chorus was mixed into the surround.

Without having had heard the LCRs, the "surround" tracks on the WarnerPhonic 3D titles (HOUSE OF WAX, CHARGE AT FEATHER RIVER) are particularly aggressive.

Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 12-17-2013, 03:40 AM:

An obvious one is Fantasia- at least the 1991 laserdisc.