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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 09-27-2005, 10:20 AM:
Article in yesterday's New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/26/business/media/26digital.html
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September 26, 2005
Going Deep for Digital
By DAVID M. HALBFINGER
LOS ANGELES, Sept. 25 - Last March, executives from the Walt Disney Studios approached the visual-effects wizards at George Lucas's company, Industrial Light & Magic, with an audacious request. Could they convert the forthcoming Disney animated film "Chicken Little" into 3-D?
In less than four months?
"We gave it serious consideration, and we decided they were out of their minds," said Colum Slevin, senior director of computer graphics at Industrial Light. "'Fourteen hundred shots in 14 weeks? You're dreaming.'"
But Disney persisted. And Mr. Slevin's team of techies came through, as audiences will be able to see for themselves beginning Nov. 4, when "Chicken Little" opens across the country - and in at least 85 movie theaters equipped with costly state-of-the-art 3-D projection equipment, silver screens and the latest in goofy-looking 3-D eyewear.
The 3-D technology is more advanced than anything audiences will remember from the 1950's or even from recent hits like "Spy Kids": no red-and-cyan lenses, no eyestrain, no headaches. And no bulky electronic glasses like at Imax theaters. "You've not seen anything quite like this," Richard Cook, Disney's studio chairman, assured hundreds of exhibitors and others before showing them a sample on Thursday.
All but lost in their excitement over the technology is a huge milestone for Hollywood: the 3-D release of "Chicken Little" first requires the conversion of those 85 theaters to digital projection technology.
For years, the movie industry has been struggling to replace its expensive film distribution system with digital technology. For the studios, the change promised huge savings: about $1 billion a year is spent making film prints and shipping them to thousands of theaters.
For theater owners, it meant smaller savings, but improved quality. A movie could run for weeks - or indefinitely - without the scratches and other defects that become noticeable after as few as 10 screenings of a celluloid print.
Last month, the Hollywood studios finally settled on a set of technical standards for the digital cinema introduction. Also recently, the studios, theater owners and equipment vendors have reached consensus on the basic framework to pay for the change to digital, which costs about $85,000 an auditorium.
All that was missing was a catalyst for making the investment. Proponents of digital cinema are hoping it will be provided by 3-D movies like Disney's "Chicken Little" and next summer's "Monster House," from Columbia Pictures and the director Robert Zemeckis. Given that Mr. Zemeckis's "Polar Express," from Warner Brothers, earned roughly 10 times as much in Imax 3-D as it did in 2-D, that is a big catalyst, executives say.
"3-D, at the moment, is driving the bus on this digital rollout," said Michael V. Lewis, chairman of Real D, a Beverly Hills optics company that developed the equipment and eyewear to bring "Chicken Little" to theaters in 3-D.
But there is also a fairly sizable school of thought among studio executives - and influential filmmakers like James Cameron, who has said he will shoot only in 3-D from now on - that 3-D, despite its history as a fad, could this time have a momentous effect on cinema, the way silent movies gave way to talkies and black-and-white to color.
"I honestly don't think it's a novelty," said Charles Viane, president of distribution for Disney, which may release all its future animated movies in 3-D should "Chicken Little" meet expectations at the box office. "I think you'll miss the dimensionalization in movies that don't have it."
"Chicken Little" would not be coming to market in 3-D had Disney not been impatient to break the stalemate between studios and theaters over digital conversion. But it also required significant leaps forward in technology, which the four-year-old Real D and the 25-year-old optics company it acquired in February, StereoGraphics, had been pursuing for some time.
Unlike some old-fashioned 3-D movies, the Real D process uses a single projector, but it merges two data streams, one for each eye. Because the projector is digital, it can project images far faster than 24 frames per second, the film standard. So "Chicken Little" will be shown at 144 frames per second, alternating left- and right-eye images faster than the eye can detect.
The hard part of 3-D is to make sure the left eye sees only the left image, and vice versa. Real D, executives say, does so with an adapter mounted on the projector that polarizes each alternating image so that it can be seen only through the appropriate lens on Real D's cheap disposable glasses.
The system is hardly perfect. It requires installing a special silver screen, which is a disadvantage for showing standard movies; the rapid frame rate slightly diminishes the resolution of the image, from 2,048 pixels to roughly 1,700; and even Real D executives acknowledge the system would be impractical for theaters with more than 300 seats because of screen size constraints.
But executives from some of the 22 theater chains that have signed up so far - among them AMC, Loews and Regal - say they prefer it to a competing system, from In-Three and NuVision, that would use standard screens but require costly electronic eyeglasses, forcing theaters to spend money sanitizing, maintaining and securing them.
The main disadvantage of the Real D system is cost: the company charges at least $50,000 upfront for each theater, and $25,000 a year.
Tom Stephenson, president and chief executive of Dallas-based Rave Motion Pictures, said he had signed up to convert 9 of his 300 screens to Real D and was exploring whether to charge a dollar or two more for tickets, or whether increased ticket sales and concession receipts would ultimately cover his costs.
Real D guarantees at least two 3-D movies will play in those theaters each year, Mr. Stephenson said. "Is that enough? No, but if it turns out people are really drawn to this technology, you'll get more than that."
Among prominent filmmakers, who are eyeing dwindling box-office figures just as uneasily as theater owners, several have seized on 3-D as almost a panacea.
"As the public's home television and sound systems get better and better, what is the reason they have to go to the movies?" said Jon Landau, a partner in Mr. Cameron's company, Lightstorm Entertainment, which is making the action fantasy "Battle Angel" in 3-D. "We believe 3-D is one of those things that people will come out of their homes in droves to see. From the big-scale movies to the small dramas - if you have somebody on their deathbed, and an intimate moment, you are much better off dropping the barrier of the screen, putting the audience in that moment, and putting it in 3-D."
Whether the next "Terms of Endearment," let alone the next "Terminator," will be seen by millions in 3-D is anybody's guess, of course. But the digital introduction, on which 3-D technology will piggyback, is picking up speed. After months of wrangling between the studios and several vendors, the first deals are being signed that could lead theater owners to buy and install digital projectors.
The structure of the deals follows a pattern. Theater owners pay roughly $10,000 toward the $85,000 cost of converting each auditorium. The balance is recovered, typically over 10 years, from the movie studios, which pay "virtual print fees."
These fees, which start at around $1,000 for each copy of a movie delivered to a theater, are intended to approximate the studios' financial savings on film prints and shipping. They have agreed to steer that money to the suppliers of digital cinema equipment.
Under the first major deal announced so far, Disney said on Sept. 15 that it would pay virtual print fees toward the installation of projectors from Christie Digital Systems USA, under a nonexclusive deal financed by Access Integrated Technologies, a start-up that is hoping to carve out a slice of the expected market for digital distribution to theaters.
The gamble for Access, of Morristown, N.J., is that studios will release enough digital movies, and agree to pay the virtual print fees, to cover the cost of the equipment and installations - and to lower the cost of capital for a company with just $12 million in trailing 12-month revenue.
"Somebody's got to be willing to put up what somebody has called brave equity to get something like this going," said A. Dale Mayo, a former theater owner who is chairman and chief executive of Access.
Lurking around the corner, however, are film industry heavyweights like Technicolor, a unit of the Paris-based media services company Thomson, along with its rival Deluxe and the sound company Dolby Laboratories. Dolby has financed the purchase of digital systems for those theaters converting soon, for "Chicken Little" for example, hoping to gain exposure for its own servers and cinema management software.
So goes the competition on the digital frontier. "It's street-fighting right now," said Jack Kline, president and chief operating officer of Christie Digital.
"In order for the market to have confidence in the digital experience, we need real experience," said Michael Karagosian, digital cinema consultant to the National Association of Theater Owners. "We need at least 1,000 systems, with all the vendors delivering content to theaters in a flawless way, so the movie arrives, it's shown, the audience is entertained with the same reliability as today with film."
That's a tall order, he cautioned. "We now have a 99.98 percent availability rate" for film projection, he said, referring to the incidence of equipment malfunction. "That means that 2 out of 10,000 shows fail, where you have to get a voucher. We don't expect to hear, 'The server didn't work.' But there are plenty of stories already about expired encryption keys, the date set wrong, somebody didn't push the right button."
He added, "We're talking about putting desktop technology in the theater. Do you trust your boot-up every time?"
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 09-27-2005, 12:27 PM:
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"I think you'll miss the dimensionalization in movies that don't have it."
Boy, I can't tell you the number of times I've said "That movie would be great, if it only had more dimensionalization."
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-27-2005, 12:45 PM:
Dimensionalization is a registered trademark of In-Three that refers to their proprietary stereoscopic conversion process. Chicken Little is not being converted by In-Three nor with their process, so the statement is oddly out of place.
Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 751) on 09-27-2005, 01:18 PM:
The 3-D technology is more advanced than anything audiences will remember from the 1950's
Eh? In the 1950's, two separate rolls of high resolution 35mm film were projected in sync with each other thu polarizing filters, so that each eye would see it's image at the exact same moment, as they would in real life.
While I don't doubt this video gimmick will work, and that it will certainly look better than Anaglyph 3D, this is really an overly complicated and inferior way of projecting 3D.
Posted by Heath Dutton (Member # 3265) on 09-27-2005, 04:37 PM:
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and we decided they were out of their minds,"
This article makes me laugh!
State of the art? I bet they are going linear-polorization instead of circular... No eye-strain my foot.
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-27-2005, 04:47 PM:
The REAL D system uses passive polarizers (circular) and there was no eyestrain evident during the twenty minutes of material I saw.
Posted by Larry Zuverink (Member # 1483) on 09-27-2005, 06:05 PM:
Were getting one of these. No idea as of yet which projector we are getting but we are suppose to be the first in the country to have a digital only house(so they say). I heard the 3D is fantastic but I'll have to let you know.
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-27-2005, 06:08 PM:
If you're installing the REAL D system for Chicken Little, then you'll be using a Christie CP2000 projector with two Dolby servers (Dolby has not yet released a dual-stream server).
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 09-27-2005, 06:43 PM:
I haven't seen this system of course, but I saw the highly-touted 3D demonstration at Great States (same as what was shown at ShoWest, supposedly) featuring footage from Star Wars Episode IV. The 3D looked ... nice, but it was still like watching a movie with sunglasses on. I doubt this thing will be much of an improvement.
And, any time you have to wear cheapo cardboard 3D glasses, you are GOING to be uncomfortable, eyestrain or no eyestrain, because the crappy cheap cardboard frames ARE UNCOMFORTABLE. There is a reason people pay hundreds of dollars for glasses frames....partly for looks, of course, but comfort has its price too.
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 09-27-2005, 07:05 PM:
quote: Joseph L. Kleiman
If you're installing the REAL D system for Chicken Little, then you'll be using a Christie CP2000 projector with two Dolby servers (Dolby has not yet released a dual-stream server).
Joe,
I've heard from a fairly reliable source that all these installations will only be left in for several years at best and then pulled out. Do you have any dope on this?
Mark
Posted by Matt Fields (Member # 3211) on 09-27-2005, 07:11 PM:
Crap movies in 3-D are still crap. People will not leave there homes for crap. Period.
Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 09-27-2005, 07:27 PM:
THEY STILL DON'T GET IT!
It is STORY and CHARACTER that bring people to the movies, not gimmicks. They may check out this new 3-D thing, but if the story isn't there, they won't go back.
After a few minutes, you forget about the 3-D. You remember the story.
SUPER SPEEDWAY is a much better film than NASCAR 3-D. Why, because it tells a story about a man and his cars. NASCAR 3-D shows cars turning left.
Why is Pixar the only studio that understands this? STORY, STORY, STORY...THAT is what makes great movies...not 3-D.
Would SUNSET BOULEVARD, KING KONG, or CASABLANCA be one bit better in 3-D? How about SOME LIKE IT HOT?
Of all the 3-D features from the fifties and eighties, only a few are memorable. DIAL M FOR MURDER has a terrific impact on the audience in 3-D because Hitchcock used the technique sparingly and most effectively.
Paddle-Balls are great, but they don't make good pictures.
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 09-27-2005, 10:19 PM:
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Real D executives acknowledge the system would be impractical for theaters with more than 300 seats because of screen size constraints.
Interesting. The El Capitan in Hollywood has around 1100 seats, and they will be showing it in "Disney Digital 3-D." Although actually their screen isn't all that huge.
quote: Matt Fields
Crap movies in 3-D are still crap.
Yes, but this movie might not be crap. The Disney El Capitan mailer (which also promises "take home collectible 3-D glasses" quotes Richard Corliss of Time Magazine as saying "Disney surely has a winner in...Chicken Little. It's one of the funniest, most charming and most exhilarating movie in years. It's a genuine Disney cartoon, with a storytelling sense and graphic precision worthy of the old animation masters...The animation is gorgeous, but it's the feeling that you'll take home - warm, smart and happy."
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 09-27-2005, 11:50 PM:
quote: Heath Dutton
I bet they are going linear-polorization instead of circular... No eye-strain my foot.
No eye strain with linear polarization for me if done right. This coming from sitting through 35 polaroid 3D movies in ten days. No problem-o.
Also, why do they need ILM to 3D-ize anything? Just move the camera two and a half inches to the left, re-render all the scenes - and then you'll have the other eye... and it will REALLY be 3D, not 3D-ized 2D.
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-28-2005, 12:27 AM:
The installs will be permanent and will be used for non-Disney presentations, such as SONY's Monster House next year. They will eventually be taking out the projectors and the servers, but only when technology allows for a dual-stream bandwith on a 4K image. They are also wanting to project at higher than 96fps, although that is currently not within the DCI specs. So, taking out the equipment would be solely for purposes of replacing it when the technology has advanced.
As for the El Capitan, I've heard there were issues with placing the new silver/white matte screen in the theater, but that has now been resolved. The team working on the digital 3D release of Chicken Little for Disney includes many of the same distribution and marketing people who were involved in the IMAX version of Fantasia 2000, so expect a blockbuster campaign behind this.
Finally, I have a three-part interview with Josh Greer and Michael Lewis of REAL D from when we went for a demonstration screening this past May. Hopefully, it can answer any questions you might have. I'll also be attending a digital 3D cinema event on Thursday in LA, so if there's anything anyone wants to know about the new system, shoot me an email before I fly down Thursday afternoon and I'll see if I can get an answer for you.
INTERVIEW PART 1
INTERVIEW PART 2
INTERVIEW PART 3
Posted by Matt Fields (Member # 3211) on 09-28-2005, 09:34 AM:
I never said that Chicken Little was crap...just that people will not go to 3D movies if they are lousy. - Matt
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 09-29-2005, 12:07 AM:
quote: Joseph L. Kleiman
They will eventually be taking out the projectors and the servers, but only when technology allows for a dual-stream bandwith on a 4K image. ... So, taking out the equipment would be solely for purposes of replacing it when the technology has advanced.
Who's expecting to pay for that?
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-29-2005, 10:37 AM:
At this time, who knows? We're still talking at least three years off before the equipment changeover, but if 4K can be perfected by 2008, a large number of exhibitors should be switching to 4K anyway for 2D presentations.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 09-29-2005, 11:59 AM:
Three years is right around the corner. And my guess is you're talking about a $100,000 (at least) investment per auditorium. Someone needs to be thinking about that NOW.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 09-29-2005, 12:11 PM:
Meanwhile, plenty of theatres still haven't installed multichannel sound systems. That was a 10-20k investment 20 years ago which actually (arguably) improved the moviegoing experience.
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-29-2005, 12:22 PM:
I'm flying down to LA this evening for an event on digital 3D cinema. I'll make sure to ask about the financing while there.
Posted by Heath Dutton (Member # 3265) on 09-29-2005, 12:45 PM:
quote: Matt Fields
I never said that Chicken Little was crap...just that people will not go to 3D movies if they are lousy
Unfortunately children don't care so much if the movie sucks. If it has 3D, they wanna see it. Spy-Kids 3D is a good example. If it were just Spy-Kids 3 (or 4 or whatever it was), I doubt it would have done nearly as well at the box-office.
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-29-2005, 12:54 PM:
Shark Boy sucked and nobody went to see it. Then again, considering what Robert Rodriguez invested in the film, he had a bit of a healthy return.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 09-29-2005, 01:47 PM:
Box Office Mojo sez Sharkboy did $39M domestically and another $20M outside the US. Not a blockbuster, but *someone* went to see it (not me!).
Posted by Matt Fields (Member # 3211) on 09-29-2005, 07:52 PM:
quote: Heath Dutton
Unfortunately children don't care so much if the movie sucks. If it has 3D, they wanna see it. Spy-Kids 3D is a good example. If it were just Spy-Kids 3 (or 4 or whatever it was), I doubt it would have done nearly as well at the box-office
That's true for Spy Kids, at that time the first 3D movie in years. But if all or most movies were 3D, which is what the article was about, then 3D would no longer be a "special event" and no longer a strong attraction.
If you live next door to Disneyland and can go there anytime you want, then it ceases to be a big deal.
Posted by Dominic Case (Member # 1830) on 09-29-2005, 11:42 PM:
quote: Joseph L. Kleiman
there was no eyestrain evident during the twenty minutes of material I saw.
If I'm sitting ten metres from a screen, then the image is ten metres away. I need to focus at ten metres. If the parallax difference in the images in each eye tells me that part of the image is five metres away or fifty metres, then polarised or unpolarised, red green or speckled, my brain has a problem. What I'm seeing doesn't make sense.
Call it eyestrain, headache or cognitive incongruence, it's a problem. And my experience is that I can cope with the problem for about twenty minutes, then it becomes eyestrain.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 09-30-2005, 05:19 AM:
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For theater owners, it meant smaller savings, but improved quality. A movie could run for weeks - or indefinitely - without the scratches and other defects that become noticeable after as few as 10 screenings of a celluloid print.
I am as pro-new technology as the next guy and would gladly listen to any new ideas on how to make presentation better. But as soon as I hear dog-do like this spewing out of someone's mouth, that's where I stop listening. Print degradation after 10 screenings? What shithole screening room are they watching their stuff in?
Keep your booth, equipment and film clean (apply Film Guard --spareingly) and in good repair and hire people who know how to do the above and that's a much, much cheaper way to keep the film image prestine for hundreds even thousands of runs.
I believe the lengend goes that when MY FAIR LADY was playing in the Rialto in NYC, they had a back-up print in the booth so they could switch if and when there was any visible wear or in case of print damage to the show print. They ran this title in Roadshow for like two years and never had to use the back-up print.
THERE IS NOTHING INEVITABLE ABOUT PRINTS GETTING TRASHED. Prints don't come from the lab with scratches and gobs of dirt (most times). If they are being mutilated and contaminated with dirt in a booth, then when you stick a $150,000 video projector in the same booth with the same imbeciles, they will find a way to trash the new digital equipment -- you can take that to the bank.
As for 3D eyestrain, Dominic, you may be more sensitive than most to that descrepancy between the focal point and the virtual distance that 3D necessarily presents to the eye. I submit that experience shows that it is easily learned and accepted by most people. As Mark J. pointed out, we watched sometimes seven hours of dual strip 3D features a day for a week at the 3D Expo at the Egyptian. It was 3D about as perfect as I have ever seen and I heard that from everyone there. I never felt any eyestrain, even at the end of an exceptionally long day of screenings. There was not a hint of ghosting in that system and no eyestrain complaints from any of people in the audience that I spoke to, many of them cinema professionals. So even if in theory the brain is having a difficult time correlating the "cognitive incongruence," it doesn't cause eyestrain in the majority of people.
When you look at a 2D image, you are doing pretty much the same thing....your brain sees a single focal point but is "tricked" by perspective to accept the incongruity of distance beyond the focal point. The brain learns that no matter where your eyes focus, objects can be at other virtual planes, hence your "cognitive incongruence," but the brain is a fast learner and most people seem to "get it" fairly easily with no problem or eyestrain.
I did ask a doctor at the festival about eyestrain. This is the best I can paraphrase:
Eye strain comes when a 3D system is not aligned properly, as were many in the days of the '50s 3D releases; back then, whatever was in the booth in terms of lenses and projector placement was enlisted to produce two images that were not necessarily a perfect match. Lenses that were perfectly fine for change-over would not necessarily magnify both images to the exact amount; projectors that are mounted to satisfy the phsyical geometry of the booth might not be at perfect angles for perfect screen convergence. On the other hand, when the system is DESIGNED for proper double strip 3D projection as that week-long 3D festival was, the old 3D dual film system worked marvelously.
Eyestrain comes about when the muscles in the eye are asked to do things that they normally don't do, like one eye having to moving up and the other having moving down to converge slightly misaligned framing. That's a physical strain that causes pain, whereas the eyes can focus, i.e., converge, every easily at any point, except perhaps up to say 5 inches from the face. They do that all the time and it is painless. The muscles that focus the lenses of the eyes are not straining if they are focusing at an object (the screen) that they normally have no trouble focusing on. True, they are being asked to perform those natural actions in an unusual configuration, but nothing that they are incapable of doing in real life without strain.
Asking the brain to re-interpert focal points vs the convergance point isn't something physical that will cause discomfort; it's just something the brain has to learn to interpret, just like it does with perspective. Hence, 3D done properly will not cause pain, be it dual strip, or single strip or alternating frame video.
I think the 3D Expo had a very valuable side-effect in that it served as a kind of lab test with a good number of subjects that showed that it is not inevitable that 3D will cause eyestrain, even for extended periods.
[ 09-30-2005, 08:45 AM: Message edited by: Frank Angel ]
Posted by Mark Hajducki (Member # 1732) on 09-30-2005, 06:19 AM:
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A movie could run for weeks
I thought the advantage of D-Cinema was that print costs were low so that a crap 'film' could get an even larger first week release than now. (Even if it is gone the next week)
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 09-30-2005, 12:24 PM:
Found out last night that Christie has had problems ramping up production for this many projectors. The AIX/Christie deployment was originally scheduled for 200 screens by the end of the year and is now down to 150 (AIX/Christie has until today to sign a major exhibitor or the partnership might disolve). Chicken Little will now be seen on 85 screens instead of the planned 100. Josh Greer of REAL D told me in May they expected 1000 REAL D systems deployed by next Summer. That number is now down to 500. He also said during the Digital Cinema Summit at NAB in April that by that time next year, the first 1000 digital systems will be installed. He's now saying that's 18 months away.
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 09-30-2005, 03:36 PM:
quote: Frank Angel
when MY FAIR LADY was playing in the Rialto in NYC, they had a back-up print in the booth so they could switch if and when there was any visible wear or in case of print damage to the show print. They ran this title in Roadshow for like two years and never had to use the back-up print.
According to the actual NY Times ad that I have a copy of, MFL played its NYC roadshow at the Criterion Theatre.
Posted by Aaron Haney (Member # 747) on 09-30-2005, 09:37 PM:
quote: Mark J. Marshall
Also, why do they need ILM to 3D-ize anything? Just move the camera two and a half inches to the left, re-render all the scenes - and then you'll have the other eye... and it will REALLY be 3D, not 3D-ized 2D.
That part baffles me as well. Surely 14 weeks would have been enough time to do re-render. It would have produced better results than this fake 2-D process. Perhaps they used depth information from the 3-D files to help the fake 2-D process, but still ... why do it that way at all, when you can go for the real thing?
quote: Mitchell Dvoskin
Eh? In the 1950's, two separate rolls of high resolution 35mm film were projected in sync with each other thu polarizing filters, so that each eye would see it's image at the exact same moment, as they would in real life.
Yay, another news article hyping digital cinema, containing inaccuracies! Digital cinema companies just can't seem to promote their products without lying about film at the same time. Ought to make you feel real good about paying 5 and 6 figure amounts for their stuff!
It's worth mentioning that you can see the original dual-35mm 3-D system this coming week if you live in San Francisco. The Castro Theatre is having a festival of original dual-system 3-D films from October 3-9.
Oh, and I have to say I really don't like silver screens. They reduce the smoothness of the image, show blemishes easily, and are impossible to light evenly. I'd rather they weren't used for regular 2-D movies, but unfortunately, that's what will end up happening.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 10-01-2005, 08:49 AM:
Yes Paul, you are correct, my bad. It was the Criterion, not the Rialto. But my point being that prints were run for much, MUCH longer in the golden age of the movie palaces and they seemed to resist the horrors that we see today after living in a single theatre for a few weeks.
Today titles have much shorter legs than in the past and yet they still can't sustain decent, dirt-free presentation even in some of the "flagship" theatres in the largest markets. The idea that digital will fix this is absurd because the reason this situation exists is well known to all of us. It's a result of who it is that the exhibitor installs in the booth to handling the entire operation and with what technical expertise those people have or more accurately, don't have.
Like automation which theatre owners used as an excuse to replace skilled, experienced operators with barely trained personnel, you can hear their brains once again thinking that digital will be a new way to allow them to eleminate even those A-Usher/operators from the booth.
Won't they be in for a huge, costly surprise. And it will serve the cheap bastards right.
Posted by Wolff King Morrow (Member # 2226) on 10-01-2005, 01:56 PM:
I just found out I'll be getting one of these 3D setups for Chicken Little. I'm all for 3D that's better than the cheesy red-blue crud. I'm wondering how it will compare to the polarized 3D movies of the early 80's...
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