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Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-08-2007, 01:13 AM:
Here is a work-in-progress list of the theatres that have/will have the Real D digital projection system and are expected to play Disney's "Meet The Robinsons" beginning March 30.
The list as of Mar. 6 represents, I estimate, about 2/3rds of the domestic Real D/Disney Digital 3D/whatever 3D bookings. AMC, Regal, Cinemark and a few other exhibitors announced this week their intention to install a lot of systems by the end of the month, so expect the list to grow.
Estimates are around 700 worldwide 3D bookings of "Meet The Robinsons." (I believe that number represents multiple bookings in the same venue.) This represents a significant increase in installs since the 84 for "Chicken Little" and 168 for "Nightmare Before Christmas."
I'll update the list as new installations/bookings are confirmed or when Real D or Disney issue a press release.
[EDIT: Now that the thread has exceeded one page, updates to the list will be made as a new post so that readers won't need to backtrack to the original page.]
[ 03-18-2007, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Michael Coate ]
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 03-08-2007, 02:20 AM:
Add Lexington, Ky to that list Cinemark Fayette Mall 16.
Posted by Sam King (Member # 4029) on 03-08-2007, 05:16 AM:
At The Bridge: Cinema de lux in Los Angeles we have 2 screens of 3D
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 03-08-2007, 09:03 PM:
Dolby will be demoing their new 3D system at Showest this year and if its good it will no doubt kill the Real-D system. I always felt that Real-D stood for Real-Dum... describing those foolish enough to pay the rediclous fees and royalties each year just to show one or two films... almost as bad as Imax.
Mark
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-08-2007, 09:53 PM:
The new Regal Valley River Center Stadium 15 in Eugene is advertising "Eugene's First Digital 3D Theater" with a 3D engagement that opens March 30th, but they don't specify the title (the ad is running in this week's issue of Eugene Weekly). It has to be "Meet The Robinsons".
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-08-2007, 10:14 PM:
Two 3D screens are being installed at Classic Cinemas Charlestowne 18 in St. Charles,IL.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 03-09-2007, 11:01 AM:
Does the new Dolby system use the same crappy "alternating eyes on the screen" technique?
Oh, and does it warble like their CP650s?
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-09-2007, 04:06 PM:
quote: Darryl Spicer
Add Lexington, Ky to that list Cinemark Fayette Mall 16.
quote: Mike Schindler
Two 3D screens are being installed at Classic Cinemas Charlestowne 18 in St. Charles,IL.
Darryl & Mike: Are these systems installed and up & running, or have you been told they'll be installed by the end of the month?
The list has been updated, by the way. About 50 new locations have been added.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-09-2007, 05:39 PM:
I've been told Charlestowne 18 will be ready in time, but it's not done yet.
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 03-10-2007, 12:28 AM:
quote: Michael Coate
Darryl & Mike: Are these systems installed and up & running, or have you been told they'll be installed by the end of the month?
I will be involved in the install and will be completed on the 13th.
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 03-10-2007, 02:38 AM:
Anyone know if the El Capitan will be projecting from the same set-up they used for Chicken Little? With Dual projection and static circular polarizers rather than the single/active Z-filter? THat may be why I didn't see some of the problems others reported with the film (dim image, strobing, etc.)
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-13-2007, 01:25 PM:
The list in my initial post has been revised. LOTS of new venues added.
And, it looks like several decent-sized markets will be getting their first taste of D-Cinema, including:
Albuquerque, NM
Buffalo, NY
Jacksonville, FL
Pittsburgh, PA
Sacramento, CA
Syracuse, NY
Tucson, AZ
Posted by Paul Konen (Member # 41) on 03-14-2007, 04:53 PM:
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Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 03-16-2007, 06:59 AM:
The 2 AMC monster-plex theatres in Central Ohio added digital screenings today, so I'm just speculating that they might also be on the ROBINSON's list. Again, that is purely a guess.
Revision: The day after the first digital listings at AMC locally, the digital unit at Easton is still advertised, but the digital screenings of 300 at Lennox are nowhere to be found.
[ 03-17-2007, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: Mark Lensenmayer ]
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-16-2007, 05:00 PM:
The St. Louis region will be getting their first D-Cinema installations.
quote:
Wehrenberg Theatres to Debut Digital Cinema
Circuit will convert several auditoriums from 35 mm to digital projection
St. Louis, MO (March 9, 2007) -
Wehrenberg Theatres announced today it has signed a contract with REAL D, an industry leader in the digital cinema field, to convert five projectors to digital. The new digital equipment will be installed in time for Disney's animated feature Meet the Robinsons opening March 30. As an added feature, the five screens will showcase the film in 3-D!
The Wehrenberg Theatres slated to receive the first five digital screens are the Ronnies 20 Cine, the Galaxy 14 Cine in Chesterfield, MO, the St. Charles 18 Cine, the O'Fallon 15 Cine in O'Fallon, IL and the Galaxy 16 Cine in Cedar Rapids, IA. Following the digital debut of Meet the Robinsons, more screens will convert to digital in these theatres, bringing the total to 27 screens.
Digital cinema offers several new features for movie-watchers, and new venues for the theatres themselves. Digital cinema truly presents a film the way its director intended to show it. Clarity and detail are dramatically improved with digital, and the range of colors available grows to 35 trillion shades.
As is evident with Meet the Robinsons, these new projectors provide movie-goers with amazing 3-D technology for select films. Innovations in digital filming and editing make eye-popping 3-D effects easier every year, so more and more blockbusters are able to offer 3-D shows. Wehrenberg Theatres will lead the way in bringing these movies to guests.
Movie-goers will also love the fact every showing of the film remains as high quality as the previous. Whether a guest sees a film on opening night, or the last day of its run, there is no deterioration or fading. Digital movies are immune to the imperfections of regular 35 mm film, such as scratches, pops or skips.
However, digital projectors do more than improve the quality of the movies themselves; they also offer exciting new programs not often associated with movie theatres. Because digital equipment can plug into fiber optics or satellite, movie auditoriums can feature live concerts, sporting events or television programs on screens that make plasma TVs look tiny.
“Wehrenberg Theatres has always been on the front lines when it comes to bringing new technologies to our guests,” said Ronald P. Krueger, Chairman and Co-CEO of Wehrenberg Theatres. “Whether it's the Mega Screen, IMAX or state-of-the-art sound and seating, we relish the opportunity to introduce these innovations to our guests.”
Ron Krueger II, President of Theatre Operations, added “Digital movies are the way of the future for this industry. Not only are we improving the quality of our presentation, but we are breaking new ground in the entertainment industry. We can't wait for the challenges and opportunities this will bring us.”
Wehrenberg Theatres currently operates fifteen cines in Missouri, Illinois and Iowa. Three new theatres are on the horizon in Bloomington, IL, Rochester, MN and Fenton, MO.
Having celebrated its 100th Anniversary in 2006, St. Louis-based Wehrenberg Theatres is the oldest family-owned and operated theatre circuit in the U.S. Ronald P. Krueger, 3rd Generation, Chairman and Co-CEO of Wehrenberg Theatres. Ronald P. Krueger, 4th Generation, President of Theatre Operations. # # #
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-17-2007, 12:16 AM:
quote: Mark Lensenmayer
The 2 AMC monster-plex theatres in Central Ohio added digital screenings today, so I'm just speculating that they might also be on the ROBINSON's list. Again, that is purely a guess.
Mark...the list has been updated. In addition to Columbus, I've added several new Ohio entries, plus one for Erlanger, Kentucky (part of greater Cincinnati).
BTW, the latest additions to the list have pushed the Real D locations past 400. Several new entries have been added, mostly from exhibitors AMC, Cinemark, National Amusements (Cinema de Lux, Showcase Cinemas, etc.) and Wehrenberg.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-18-2007, 05:08 PM:
List updated 3/18. Number of venues with Real D approaching 450...
quote:
UNITED STATES
ALABAMA
Auburn: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Birmingham: Carmike Summit 16
Cullman: Carmike 10
Decatur: Carmike 8
Florence: Carmike Regency Square 12
Hoover: Rave Patton Creek 15
Huntsville: Carmike 10
Huntsville: Rave Valley Bend 18
Mobile: Carmike 14
Mobile: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Montgomery: Carmike Eastdale 8
Montgomery: Rave Festival Plaza 16
Orange Beach: Rave Wharf 15
ARIZONA
Mesa: Cinemark 16
Peoria: Harkins Arrowhead Fountains 18
Tempe: Harkins Arizona Mills 24
Tucson: Cinemark Century 20 El Con
ARKANSAS
Fort Smith: Carmike 14
Hot Springs: Carmike Central City 10
Little Rock: Rave Colonel Glenn 18
Mountain Home: Carmike Village 5
CALIFORNIA
Alhambra: Regal Edwards Renaissance Stadium 14
Aliso Viejo: Regal Edwards Aliso Viejo Stadium 20
Anaheim: AMC Downtown Disney
Apple Valley: UltraStar Apple Valley 14
Arcadia: AMC Santa Anita 16
Burbank: AMC Burbank 16
Chula Vista: UltraStar Chula Vista 10
City of Industry (Puente Hills): AMC Puente Hills 20
Corona: Regal Edwards Corona Crossings Stadium 18
Costa Mesa: Regal Edwards Metro Pointe Stadium 12
Daly City: Cinemark Century 20 Daly City
Dublin: Regal Hacienda Crossings Stadium 20
El Centro: UltraStar Imperial Valley 14
Fontana: UltraStar Fontana 8
Glendale: Mann Glendale Exchange 10
Irvine: Regal Edwards Irvine Spectrum 21
La Habra: Regal La Habra Stadium 16
Long Beach: Regal Edwards Towne Center Stadium 26
Los Angeles (Hollywood): Pacific Walt Disney El Capitan
Los Angeles (Van Nuys): Mann Plant 16
Los Angeles (Westchester): National Amusements The Bridge: Cinema de Lux
Los Angeles (Woodland Hills): AMC Promenade 16
Moreno Valley: Harkins Moreno Valley 16
Mountain View: Cinemark Century 16
Ontario: AMC Ontario Mills 30
Ontario: Regal Edwards Ontario Stadium 22
Orange: AMC 30 at the Block
Orange: Cinemark Century Stadium 25
Petaluma: Cinema West Boulevard Cinemas 12
Porterville: Galaxy Porterville 9
Poway: UltraStar Poway Creekside Plaza 10
Rancho Cucamonga: AMC Victoria Gardens 12
Riverbank: Galaxy Riverbank 12
Rolling Hills Estates: Regal The Avenue Stadium 13
Sacramento: Cinemark Century 16 Greenback Lane
San Diego (Gaslamp Quarter): Regal UA Horton Plaza 14
San Diego (Mission Valley): UltraStar Hazard Center
San Francisco: AMC Metreon 15
San Jose: Cinemark Century 20 Oakridge
Santa Barbara: Metropolitan Arlington
Santa Monica: AMC Santa Monica 7
Santa Monica: Mann Criterion 6
Simi Valley: Regal Simi Valley Stadium 16
South Gate: Regal Edwards South Gate Stadium 20
Temecula: Regal Edwards Temecula Stadium 15
Thousand Oaks: Mann Janss Marketplace 9
Tulare: Galaxy Tulare 10
Universal City: AMC Universal City 19
West Covina: Regal Edwards West Covina Stadium 18
COLORADO
Colorado Springs: Carmike 10
Colorado Springs: Carmike Chapel Hills 15
Colorado Springs: Cinemark 17 at Carefree Circle
Fort Collins: Carmike 10
Grand Junction: Carmike 7
Highlands Ranch: AMC Highlands Ranch 24
Lakewood: Regal UA Colorado Mills Stadium 16
Steamboat Springs: Carmike Chief Plaza 4
Westminster: AMC Westminster Promenade 24
CONNECTICUT
Bridgeport: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Bridgeport
Manchester: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Buckland Hills
Milford: National Amusements Connecticut Post 14: Cinema de Lux
North Haven: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas North Haven
DELAWARE
Dover: Carmike 14
Newark: Regal Peoples Plaza Stadium 17
Wilmington: Regal Brandywine 16
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Washington: AMC Georgetown 14
FLORIDA
Boca Raton: Muvico Palace 20
Bradenton: Carmike Royal Palm 20
Coral Springs: Regal Magnolia Place 16
Davie: Muvico Paradise 24
Destin: Rave Destin Commons 14
Fernandina Beach: Carmike Amelia Island 7
Fort Myers: Regal Belltower 20
Gainesville: Regal Royal Park Stadium 16
Jacksonville: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Jacksonville: Regal The Avenues Stadium 20
Kissimmee: Regal The Loop 16
Lake Buena Vista: AMC Pleasure Island 24
Melbourne: Premiere Oaks 10
Melbourne (Viera): Rave Avenue 16
Miami: Regal Kendall Village Stadium 16
Orange Park: AMC Orange Park 24
Orlando: Cinemark 20 at Festival Bay
Orlando: Regal Waterford Lakes Stadium 20
Panama City: Carmike 10
Pensacola: Carmike 10
Pensacola: Rave Bayou 15
Pensacola: Rave Pensacola 18
Pinellas Park: Regal Park Place Stadium 16
Port St. Lucie: Rave St. Lucie West 14
Sarasota: Regal Hollywood 20
Sebring: Carmike Lakeshore 8
St. Petersburg: Muvico Baywalk 20
Sunrise: Regal Sawgrass Stadium 23
Tampa: Muvico Starlight 20
GEORGIA
Albany: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Athens: Carmike 12
Augusta: Regal Augusta Exchange 20
Buford: Regal Mall of Georgia Stadium 20
Canton: Carmike Riverstone 15
Cartersville: Carmike 12
Chamblee: Regal Hollywood 24 @ North I-85
Columbus: Carmike 15
Columbus: Carmike Hollywood Connection Ritz 10
Conyers: Carmike Crossroads 16
Dalton: Carmike 9
Douglasville: Regal Arbor Place Mall 18
Fort Benning: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Kennesaw: AMC Barrett Commons 24
LaGrange: Carmike LaGrange 10
Lawrenceville: AMC Discover Mills 18
Milledgeville: Carmike 6
Morrow: AMC Southlake Pavilion 24
Newnan: Carmike 10
Savannah: Carmike 10
Savannah: Carmike Wynnsong 11
Snellville: Carmike 12
Statesboro: Carmike 12
HAWAII
Honolulu: Regal Dole Cannery Stadium 18
IDAHO
Boise: Regal Edwards Boise Stadium 21
Chubbuck: Carmike Pine Ridge 10
Coeur D’alene: Regal Riverstone 14
Nampa: Regal Edwards Nampa Stadium 14
ILLINOIS
Bloomington: Carmike Palace 10
Champaign: Carmike Beverly 18
Chicago: AMC River East 21
Decatur: Carmike Strand 10
Dekalb: Carmike Market Square 10
Forsyth: Carmike Hickory Point 12
Lincolnshire: Regal Lincolnshire Stadium 20
Normal: Carmike University 8
O’Fallon: Wehrenberg O’Fallon 15
Oak Park: Classic Lake
Peoria: Rave Grand Prairie 18
Schaumburg: AMC Streets of Woodfield 20
Skokie: Kerasotes Village Crossing 18
St. Charles: Classic Charlestowne 18
Washington: Carmike Sunnyland 10
INDIANA
Elkhart: Carmike Encore Park 14
Evansville: Kerasotes Stadium 16
Fort Wayne: Carmike 20
Fort Wayne: Rave Jefferson Pointe 18
Indianapolis: Kerasotes ShowPlace 16
Indianapolis: Regal UA Galaxy Stadium 14
Plainfield: Rave Metropolis 18
Schererville: Kerasotes ShowPlace 12
IOWA
Cedar Rapids: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Cedar Rapids: Wehrenberg Galaxy 16
Davenport: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas 53
Des Moines: Carmike Southridge 12
Sioux City: Carmike Southern Hills 12
Urbandale: Carmike Cobblestone 9
West Des Moines: Cinemark Century 20 Jordan Creek
KANSAS
Leawood: AMC Town Center 20
Manhattan: Carmike Seth Childs 12
KENTUCKY
Erlanger: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Erlanger
Hopkinsville: Carmike Martin 5
Lexington: Cinemark Fayette Mall
Louisville: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Louisville: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 20: Stonybrook
Okolona: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 16
LOUISIANA
Alexandria: Carmike Alexandria 6
Baton Rouge: Rave Baton Rouge 16
Baton Rouge: Rave Mall of Louisiana 15
Bossier City: Regal Louisiana Boardwalk Stadium 14
Lafayette: Carmike 10
Shreveport: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
MARYLAND
Annapolis: Bow Tie Annapolis Mall 11
Baltimore: AMC White Marsh 16
Hanover: Muvico Egyptian 24
MASSACHUSETTS
Bellingham: Regal Bellingham Stadium 14
Boston: AMC Boston Common 19
Boston: Regal Fenway Stadium 13
Framngham: AMC Framngham 15
Lowell: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Lowell
Methuen: AMC Methuen 20
Milbury: National Amusements Blackstone Valley 14: Cinema de Lux
Randolph: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Randolph
Revere: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Revere
Seekonk: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Seekonk Route 6
West Springfield: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas West Springfield 1-15
Woburn: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Woburn
Worcester: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Worcester North
MICHIGAN
Auburn Hills: AMC Great Lakes Crossing 25
Battle Creek: Carmike Lakeview Square 10
Brighton: MJR Brighton Towne Square Cinema 20
Canton: Emagine Canton 18
Flint: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Flint West
Fort Gratiot: Carmike Birchwood 10
Grandville: Cinemark 20
Jackson: Carmike Plaza 8
Kalamazoo: Goodrich Kalamazoo 10
Kalamazoo: Rave Cityplace 14
Kentwood: Loeks Celebration! Cinema Grand Rapids South
Livonia: AMC Livonia 20
Novi: Emagine Novi 18
Saginaw: Carmike Fashion Square 10
Sault Ste. Marie: Carmike Varsity 10
Southgate: MJR Southgate Cinema 20
Sterling Heights: AMC Forum 30
Sterling Heights: MJR Marketplace Cinema 20
Traverse City: Carmike Grand Traverse 9
Traverse City: Carmike Horizon 10
Waterford: MJR Waterford Cinema 16
Ypsilanti: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Ann Arbor
MINNESOTA
Apple Valley: Carmike 15
Coon Rapids: Kerasotes ShowPlace 16
Mankato: Carmike 6
Mounds View: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Oakdale: Carmike Oakdale Stadium 20
MISSOURI
Chesterfield: Wehrenberg Galaxy 14
Lees Summit: Dickinson EastGlen 16
Sappington: Wehrenberg Ronnies 20
St. Charles: Wehrenberg St. Charles 18
MONTANA
Billings: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Great Falls: Carmike 10
Missoula: Carmike 10
NEVADA
Las Vegas: Cinemark Century 16 South Point
Las Vegas: Cinemark Century Santa Fe Station
Las Vegas: Regal Colonnade Stadium 14
North Las Vegas: Galaxy Cannery
NEW JERSEY
Cherry Hill: AMC Cherry Hill 24
Edgewater: National Amusements Edgewater Multiplex
Elizabeth: AMC Jersey Gardens 20
Hamilton: AMC Hamilton 24
Hazlet: National Amusements Hazlet Multiplex
Ocean: Clearview Middlebrook Cinema 10
Parsippany: Clearview Parsippany Cinema 12
Succasunna: Clearview Cinema 10
NEW MEXICO
Albuquerque: Cinemark Century Rio 24
NEW YORK
Albany: Regal Crossgates Stadium 18
Commack: National Amusements Commack Multiplex
Farmingdale: National Amusements Farmingdale Multiplex
Gates: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Hawthorne: National Amusements All Westchester Saw Mill Multiplex
Hicksville: National Amusements Broadway Multiplex
Holtsville: National Amusements Island 16: Cinema de Lux
New Rochelle: Regal New Roc City Stadium 18
New York (Bronx): National Amusements Concourse Plaza Multiplex
New York (Brooklyn): AccessIT Pavilion
New York (Brooklyn): National Amusements Linden Blvd. Multiplex
New York (Brooklyn): Regal UA Sheepshead Bay 14
New York (Manhattan): AMC 84th Street 6
New York (Manhattan): AMC Empire 25
New York (Manhattan): Clearview Ziegfeld
New York (Manhattan): Regal UA Union Square Stadium 14
New York (Queens): National Amusements College Point Multiplex
New York (Queens): National Amusements Jamaica Multiplex
New York (Queens): Regal UA Kaufman Astoria Stadium 14
New York (Staten Island): Regal UA Staten Island Stadium 16
Olean: Carmike 8
Rochester: Regal Henrietta Stadium 18
Syracuse: Regal Carousel Mall Stadium 17
Westbury: AMC Raceway 10
Westbury: Regal UA Westbury Stadium 12
White Plains: National Amusements City Center 15: Cinema de Lux
Williamsville: Regal Transit Center Stadium 18
Yonkers: Clearview Central Plaza
Yonkers: National Amusements Cross Country Multiplex
NORTH CAROLINA
Asheville: Carmike 10
Charlotte: Regal Stonecrest 22
Durham: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Fayetteville: Carmike Market Fair 15
Greensboro: Carmike 18
Greenville: Carmike 12
Hickory: Carmike 14
Jacksonville: Carmike 16
Morrisville: Carmike Park Place 16
Raleigh: Carmike 15
Raleigh: Regal North Hills Stadium 14
Shelby: Carmike 10
Wilmington: Carmike 16
Wilson: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike Wynnsong 12
NORTH DAKOTA
Bismarck: Carmike 8
Grand Forks: Carmike 10
Minot: Carmike 9
OHIO
Beavercreek: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 14: The Greene
Cincinnati: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Western Hills
Columbus: AMC Easton Town Center 30
Columbus: AMC Lennox Town Center 24
Columbus: Rave Polaris 18
Findlay: Carmike 12
Maumee: National Amusements Maumee 18: Cinema de Lux
Milford: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Milford 16
Sandusky: Carmike Plaza 8
Springdale: National Amusements Springdale 18: Cinema de Lux
St. Clairsville: Carmike Ohio Valley Mall 11
Steubenville: Carmike 6
Toledo: National Amusements Franklin Park 16: Cinema de Lux
Valley View: Cinemark at Valley View
West Carrollton: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Dayton South
West Chester: Rave West Chester 18
OKLAHOMA
Lawton: Carmike 8
Muskogee: Carmike 6
Shawnee: Carmike Cinema Centre 8
Stillwater: Carmike 10
OREGON
Corvallis: Carmike 12
Eugene: Regal Valley River Center Stadium 15
Springfield: Cinemark 17
Tigard: Regal Bridgeport Village Stadium 18
PENNSYLVANIA
Allentown: Carmike 16
Altoona: Carmike 8
Bensalem: AMC Neshaminy 24
Center Valley: Rave Promenade 16
Cranberry Township: Carmike Cranberry Mall 8
Delmont: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Downingtown: Regal Downingtown Stadium 16
Greensburg: Carmike 15
Hermitage: Carmike Hermitage Plaza 8
King of Prussia: Regal UA King of Prussia Stadium 16
Lancaster: Regal Manor Stadium 16
Langhorne: Regal UA Oxford Valley Stadium 14
Moosic: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Oaks: Regal Marketplace @ Oaks Stadium 24
Pittsburgh: Carmike 10
Pittsburgh: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Pittsburgh West
Pleasant Hills: Carmike Southland 9
Plymouth Meeting: AMC Plymouth Meeting 12
Pottstown: Carmike Coventry 8
State College: Carmike 6
Warrington: Regal Warrington Crossing 22
Wyomissing: Carmike Wyomissing 8
RHODE ISLAND
Providence: National Amusements Providence Place 16
Warwick: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Warwick
SOUTH CAROLINA
Charleston: Carmike James Island 8
Columbia: Carmike 14
Columbia: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Columbia: Regal Sandhill Stadium 16
Greenville: Regal Hollywood 20
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Broadway 16
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Colonial 12
Spartanburg: Carmike 7
Summerville: Regal Azalea Square Stadium 16
SOUTH DAKOTA
Rapid City: Carmike Rushmore 7
Sioux Falls: Carmike 7
TENNESSEE
Antioch: Carmike Bell Forge 10
Chattanooga: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Clarksville: Carmike Governor’s Square 10
East Ridge: Rave East Ridge 18
Franklin: Carmike Thoroughbred 20
Goodlettsville: Carmike Rivergate 8
Hixson: Carmike Northgate 14
Johnson City: Carmike 14
Knoxville: Carmike 10
Knoxville: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Knoxville: Regal Pinnacle Stadium 18
Maryville: Carmike Foothills 12
Memphis: Malco Paradiso
Murfreesboro: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Nashville: Carmike Bellevue 8
Nashville: Regal Opry Mills Stadium 20
TEXAS
Abilene: Carmike Park Central 6
Amarillo: Regal UA Amarillo Star Stadium 14
Arlington: AMC The Parks at Arlington 18
Austin: Galaxy Highland 10
Austin: Regal Gateway Stadium 16
College Station: Cinemark Movies 18
Edinburg: Carmike 20
El Paso: Carmike 16
El Paso: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Fort Worth: Rave Ridgmar 13
Frisco: AMC Stonebriar Mall 24
Grapevine: AMC Grapevine Mills 30
Hickory Creek: Rave Hickory Creek 16
Houston: AMC Gulf Pointe 30
Houston: AMC Studio 30
Houston: AMC Willowbrook 24
Houston: Rave Yorktown 15
Houston Regal Edwards Greenway Palace 24
Houston: Regal Grand Palace Stadium 24
Hurst: Rave North East Mall 18
Katy: Cinemark 19
Lewisville: Cinemark 15 Vista Ridge Mall
Longview: Carmike 10
Lufkin: Carmike 9
McAllen: Cinemark Movies 17
Nacogdoches: Carmike 6
Pflugerville: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Plano: Cinemark Legacy 24
Plano: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
San Antonio: Santikos Silverado 16
Sugar Land: AMC First Colony 24
Tyler: Carmike 14
Webster: Cinemark 18
Wichita Falls: Carmike Sikes 10
The Woodlands: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
UTAH
Provo: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Provo: Cinemark 16
Sandy: Larry H. Miller Megaplex 17 at Jordan Commons
West Jordan: Carmike 12
West Jordan: Cinemark 24 Jordan Landing
West Valley City: Carmike Ritz 15
VIRGINIA
Alexandria: Regal Potomac Yard Stadium 16
Centreville: National Amusements Centreville Multiplex
Charlottesville: Carmike 6
Fairfax: National Amusements Fairfax Corner 14: Cinema de Lux
Midlothian: Carmike 10
Roanoke: Carmike 10
Salem: Carmike Salem Valley 8
Sterling: Regal Countryside 20
WASHINGTON
Auburn: Regal Auburn Stadium 17
Kennewick: Carmike 12
Lacey: Regal Martin Village Stadium 16
Monroe: Galaxy Monroe 12
Spokane: Regal Northtown Mall 12
Vancouver: Regal Cascade Stadium 16
WEST VIRGINIA
Morgantown: Carmike Morgantown Mall 12
WISCONSIN
Eau Claire: Carmike Oakwood Mall 12
WYOMING
Cheyenne: Carmike Frontier 9
CANADA
ONTARIO
Mississauga: Cineplex SilverCity Mississauga
Scarborough: Cineplex Coliseum Scarborough
Vaughan: Cineplex Colossus Woodbridge
QUEBEC
Montreal: Cineplex Paramount
Posted by Caleb Johnstone-Cowan (Member # 3710) on 03-20-2007, 03:00 AM:
In the UK vue cinemas are getting the film in 3D at their flagship West End site this Friday, this will be an exclusive engagement in Central London. I think they must have a deal with Disney because instead of the usual £12 for an adult ticket it's £7.00 for everyone, same as Chicken Little 3D. I'll probably go on Friday afternoon to check it out.
Posted by Freddy Nassar (Member # 3879) on 03-20-2007, 11:29 AM:
(First post from a long time lurker. Thanks for all the tips and tricks I've picked up from this site.)
I guess you can add
AMC Regency 20 in Brandon Fl to that list, our install is happening this thursday. We're an older theatre, we do a lot of buisness but don't really get much attention when it comes to new things. So I'm rather excited about getting to be the PM that gets to recieve this.
Posted by Tony Ratcliff (Member # 1196) on 03-20-2007, 04:00 PM:
I just got back from seeing a preview showing at Cincinnati, Ohio's, Showcase Springdale.
So you can add this one to the list as well.
My opinion was that while the 3-D affect was interesting, the film itself didn't have a lot of content that exploited it.
To me it was kind of a waste to have it in 3-D - purely a marketing thing I suppose.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-20-2007, 04:37 PM:
It seems to me that since 3D comes closer to replicating human vision, that should be the default form of photography. Movies should only use 2D when there's a good reason instead of the other way around.
Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 03-20-2007, 04:53 PM:
The Seattle D-3D screening was a bust. For reasons not explained, the projector would not work (according to the manager). We saw the screening in 35mm.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 03-20-2007, 05:17 PM:
quote: Mike Schindler
It seems to me that since 3D comes closer to replicating human vision, that should be the default form of photography.
3D is a gimmick and nothing more. If a movie has a good story and is compelling, it doesn't need 3D or any other gimmicks. It can be in black and white and still pull you in.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-20-2007, 05:36 PM:
You might as well say that moving images and sound are gimmicks. I agree with you that 3D and color are not necessary to tell a good story, but just because they are more technologically advanced doesn't mean they are any more gimmicky than 2D and B&W. In fact, what I'm arguing is that 2D and B&W are actually more gimmicky, because they are more abstract.
That's not to say that both can't be used very effectivey. I just think that it's better to start with reality as a base, and only add levels of abstraction when there's a reason, of which there are many.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-20-2007, 06:52 PM:
I'll take the opportunity to restate one of the main problems of showing movies in 3D: the audience is made to do something very un-natural with their eyes.
In normal human binocular vision the point of convergence where both eyes are aimed matches the distance of focus. Both points are aligned.
That isn't the same in 3D movie viewing. You focus on a fixed object, the screen. The point of convergence is moved in front of and behind the screen. Even though a person's eyes can do this sort of "double action" trick, the activity isn't something most people can maintain for long periods of time. I would call it outright torture to expect any audience to watch a 3 hour movie in 3D. Many can't take more than an hour to 90 minutes of that stuff.
With that stated (again), I think its perfectly fine for most movies to be shot in traditional 2D form. 3D can be a lot of fun, but it really is a niche format -possibly even more of a niche format than things like IMAX.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-20-2007, 06:57 PM:
quote: Tony Ratcliff
I just got back from seeing a preview showing at Cincinnati, Ohio's, Showcase Springdale.
So you can add this one to the list as well.
Does SHOWCASE CINEMAS SPRINGDALE = SPRINGDALE 18: CINEMA DE LUX? If so, then this has been on the list for several days.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 03-20-2007, 07:12 PM:
quote: Mike Schindler
You might as well say that moving images and sound are gimmicks.
I guess my personal definition of a "gimmick" is any time you have to endure something other than "just sitting and watching." Having to wear glasses that are uncomfortable to start with, and don't fit properly (especially for any small kid or person wearing regular glasses) makes for an unpleasant experience.
I watched a 30-minute RealD presentation at the Great States convention a couple of years ago and I wound up taking the glasses off halfway through just to relieve the uncomfortable feeling they were giving me. To sit thru a 2-hour film, it better be a DAMN good movie if it's going to make me forget I'm wearing a cheap set of plasticwear.
Whereas with a good movie, you just sit there and it flows over you effortlessly whether it's in 3D or 2D, digital or analog, sound or silent.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-20-2007, 07:23 PM:
Bobby, I understand how the conflicting points of convergence and focus can be bothersome for some people. I've never had a problem with it, although I haven't watched a 3-hour 3D movie either. But from what I have seen, it seems like as long as the point of convergence is "behind" the screen, it's not really an issue. Either way, that might be a valid reason to choose 2D over 3D. However, I'd still argue that 3D comes closer to the way we see than 2D does.
quote: Mike Blakesley
Having to wear glasses that are uncomfortable to start with, and don't fit properly (especially for any small kid or person wearing regular glasses) makes for an unpleasant experience.
Well hopefully someday in the near future, you'll be able to go to the mall and buy a pair Oakleys with circular polarization to take with you to the multiplex where you can sit and watch the newest stereoscopic masterpiece in both comfort and style! ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
But until then, uncomfortable eyeware may also be a good reason to choose 2D over 3D.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-20-2007, 08:08 PM:
quote: Mike Schindler
Bobby, I understand how the conflicting points of convergence and focus can be bothersome for some people. I've never had a problem with it, although I haven't watched a 3-hour 3D movie either.
Everyone is different. Some people love cottage cheeze. Get any of that stuff near me and I promise I will vomit.
An audiences' tolerance of 3D also varies. Most people can usually handle a 40 minute to 1 hour IMAX 3D movie without suffering much eye strain. A 2 hour running time is going to be pretty demanding or even unbearable for a significant amount of the audience. And that doesn't even get into the issues of audience members who already have problems with their sight. That could be one major reason why most 3D stuff lately has been movies for kids with running times under 90 minutes.
quote: Mike Schindler
But from what I have seen, it seems like as long as the point of convergence is "behind" the screen, it's not really an issue.
Keeping the point of convergence locked at or behind the screen would defeat the purpose of showing a movie in 3D. It would look as though the movie were taking place inside a rectangular box. And you wouldn't have any of those in-your-face effects, such as Jason mashing in some dude's skull until his eyeballs shot out into your lap.
quote: Mike Schindler
However, I'd still argue that 3D comes closer to the way we see than 2D does.
I could spend a lot of time shooting holes through that argument. Simply put, most 3D movies look like the depth effect is exaggerated.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-20-2007, 08:20 PM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
Keeping the point of convergence locked at or behind the screen would defeat the purpose of showing a movie in 3D. It would look as though the movie were taking place inside a rectangular box.
What's the problem with that? Based on the latest crop of 3D movies, it seems that this is the direction we're headed.
quote: Bobby Henderson
Simply put, most 3D movies look like the depth effect is exaggerated.
But is that due to the format or the way the movie's shot?
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 03-20-2007, 08:41 PM:
There is also a distraction caused by 3D based on what people are used to. When watching a 2D movie, despite if being 'only' 2D you can lose yourself in it becasue you are used to watching movies like that. When you see a 3D movie the 3D effects in and of themselves constantly remind you you are watching a movie.
Just my opinion.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-20-2007, 08:59 PM:
But certainly the same could be said of sound and color when they first came into existence. A generation from now, that probably won't be the case. For the time being, however, that may be another reason why someone would choose to go with 2D over 3D.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-20-2007, 10:19 PM:
[I should emphasize that some of the entries on the list may end up needing to be removed because some of the installs are pending and may be cancelled or postponed, or because a Real D system is installed but for whatever reason "Meet The Robinsons" does not get booked to play that theatre, or because of miscommunication between myself and my sources. As such, the list will be updated accordingly.]
[ 03-24-2007, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: Michael Coate ]
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 03-21-2007, 07:15 AM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
Even though a person's eyes can do this sort of "double action" trick, the activity isn't something most people can maintain for long periods of time.
I don't know, dude. I've said it here before, and I'll say it again... After sitting through ten days of interlocked 35mm 3D, sometimes as much as 10 or 11 hours a day, no complaints here. And no complaints from anyone else around me. I think the people that can't sit through 3D because their eyes can't handle the focal and convergence points being separated are in the minority.
And I don't agree that 3D itself is a gimmick. You can do gimmicky things with it, just like you can do gimmicky things with six track stereo, color, cinemascope, and black and white. But that doesn't make the entire format a gimmick.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 03-21-2007, 10:34 AM:
Right on Mark. And I will add that convergence and its proper use is a fine art. It has to be learned. In a film like DIAL M FOR MURDER, the 3D is brilliantly controlled and there are no disconcerting convergence changes between one shot and the next -- something that is key to preventing eye strain. The eyes don't have to readjust to an instantanious, difficult convergence vector change as they do in say Andy Worhol's FRANKENSTEIN, where unlike DMFM, convergence is all over the place; there are shots that, because of the shot that preceded it with vastly different convergence, make it almost impossible for the eyes/brain to combine the two images. To avoid this, control must be maintained not only in the shoot on the set, but as to how the film is edited. Editing decisions must take into account the convergence factor -- shots can't simply be strung together as they can in a 2D film based solely on content. It's a learned craft and it can be done -- they did master it, for the most part, in the 50s and they can do it again -- they must if the public is going to accept 3D as a normal, intergral part of the movie experience.
Also, much of the eyestrain of the 50s, where it did occurred (and I contend not nearly as much as has become legend), was not due to any inherent flaw in the 3D process -- again, referencing the 3D World Expo and our "no eyestrain" experience there watching hours and hours of 3D, all of which were 50s 3D titles -- but it was the slipshod way many local theatres threw together their 3D system, as well as the inexperience of many projectionists. I myself saw some pretty bad 3D presentations in the 70s and 80s where inexperienced art house personnel were really mucking up 50s "retrospective" 3D festivals -- one where the polaroid filters were reversed....one show where the projectors were a few frames off -- not a pleasant experience. Thing that you could get away with running 2D are devastating in 3D -- just a slight misadjustment of a framing knob on one projector and your eye muscles will be required to pull one eye up and the other down -- for the ENTIRE film! something that is sure to give you a headache. But I must say, as a kid in the 50s watching the original 3D presentations, I never ever got any headaches, nor did any of my friends.
A major problem were the focal lengths of those old lenses of the mix and match variety that were found in many neigbhorhood booths, sometimes not even by the same manufacturer. That might have been acceptable for 2D change-over operation, they were not the perfect matches that 3D demands for perfect registration and zero eyestrain. Perfect registration is guaranteed with today's digital 3D; even the polaroid 3D film system, if it ever were once again commandeered to present the new 3D titles, could certainly be done without eyestrain using computer matched lenses. Also resisting the temptation to use 3D as a gimmick or intrude on the subject matter can make 3D work as naturally as color or stereo sound -- after all, we do see in 3D all the time -- it's not a gimmick.
Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 03-21-2007, 12:26 PM:
The long defunct Liberty Theatre in Honolulu that was operated by Consolidated Amusement Company was the only venue in the city until it was joined be a few others a few months later to show polarized Naturalvision 3-D films. I saw pratically all of them at this theatre and never got a headache. All of the film's presentation was flawless and when the studios stopped making these 3-D films, I missed them very much .
-Claude
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 03-22-2007, 08:42 AM:
Right on Claude! I remember going to see my first 3D film, the incredible THE HOUSE OF WAX, and asking my dad who took me, "So from now on every movie will be in 3D, right?" I was so captivated by the process, even as a kid, that I couldn't imagine why anyone would ever make another 2D movie, or why anyone would want to see another 2D movie! How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm, after they've seen Pareee? I went back and saw HOUSE at least four more times that same week -- even skipped school to do it.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-22-2007, 11:01 AM:
Just because one person happens to never get eye strain or headaches from watching 3D movies does absolutely nothing to discount the fact other people do get eyestrain. The issue is not imagined.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 03-23-2007, 11:35 AM:
I don't think anyone said it was imagined - unless I missed it. In fact, I said I have heard that complaint from people before. I just said that I think those people who get eye strain from watching 3D presented properly are in the minority.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-23-2007, 10:56 PM:
MAJOR update...
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UNITED STATES
ALABAMA
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Birmingham: Carmike Summit 16
Birmingham: Rave Lee Branch 15
Cullman: Carmike 10
Daphne: Rave Jubilee Square 12
Decatur: Carmike 8
Florence: Carmike Regency Square 12
Hoover: Rave Patton Creek 15
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HAWAII
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IDAHO
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Normal: Carmike University 8
O’Fallon: Wehrenberg O’Fallon 15
Oak Park: Classic Lake
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Washington: Carmike Sunnyland 10
INDIANA
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Plainfield: Rave Metropolis 18
Schererville: Kerasotes ShowPlace 12
IOWA
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Cedar Rapids: Wehrenberg Galaxy 16
Davenport: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas 53
Des Moines: Carmike Southridge 12
Sioux City: Carmike Southern Hills 12
Urbandale: Carmike Cobblestone 9
West Des Moines: Cinemark Century 20 Jordan Creek
KANSAS
Leawood: AMC Town Center 20
Manhattan: Carmike Seth Childs 12
KENTUCKY
Erlanger: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Erlanger
Hopkinsville: Carmike Martin 5
Lexington: Cinemark Fayette Mall
Louisville: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Louisville: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 20: Stonybrook
Newport: AMC Newport on the Levee 20
Okolona: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 16
LOUISIANA
Alexandria: Carmike Alexandria 6
Baton Rouge: Rave Baton Rouge 16
Baton Rouge: Rave Mall of Louisiana 15
Bossier City: Regal Louisiana Boardwalk Stadium 14
Lafayette: Carmike 10
Shreveport: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
MARYLAND
Annapolis: Bow Tie Annapolis Mall 11
Baltimore: AMC Loews White Marsh 16
Columbia: AMC Columbia 14
Gaithersburg: AMC Loews Rio 18
Hanover: Muvico Egyptian 24
MASSACHUSETTS
Bellingham: Regal Bellingham Stadium 14
Boston: AMC Loews Boston Common 19
Boston: Regal Fenway Stadium 13
Danvers: AMC Loews Liberty Tree Mall 20
Framngham: AMC Framngham 15
Lowell: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Lowell
Methuen: AMC Loews Methuen 20
Milbury: National Amusements Blackstone Valley 14: Cinema de Lux
Randolph: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Randolph
Revere: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Revere
Seekonk: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Seekonk Route 6
West Springfield: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas West Springfield 1-15
Woburn: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Woburn
Worcester: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Worcester North
MICHIGAN
Auburn Hills: AMC Star Great Lakes Crossing 25
Battle Creek: Carmike Lakeview Square 10
Brighton: MJR Brighton Towne Square Cinema 20
Canton: Emagine Canton 18
Clinton Township: AMC Star Gratiot 21
Flint: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Flint West
Fort Gratiot: Carmike Birchwood 10
Grandville: Cinemark 20
Jackson: Carmike Plaza 8
Kalamazoo: Goodrich Kalamazoo 10
Kalamazoo: Rave Cityplace 14
Kentwood: Loeks Celebration! Cinema Grand Rapids South
Livonia: AMC Livonia 20
Novi: Emagine Novi 18
Saginaw: Carmike Fashion Square 10
Sault Ste. Marie: Carmike Varsity 10
Southgate: MJR Southgate Cinema 20
Sterling Heights: AMC Forum 30
Sterling Heights: MJR Marketplace Cinema 20
Traverse City: Carmike Grand Traverse 9
Traverse City: Carmike Horizon 10
Waterford: MJR Waterford Cinema 16
Ypsilanti: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Ann Arbor
MINNESOTA
Apple Valley: Carmike 15
Coon Rapids: Kerasotes ShowPlace 16
Edina: AMC Southdale 16
Mankato: Carmike 6
Maple Grove: AMC Arbor Lakes 16
Mounds View: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Oakdale: Carmike Oakdale Stadium 20
Roseville: AMC Rosedale 14
MISSISSIPPI
Madison: Malco Grandview
MISSOURI
Chesterfield: AMC Chesterfield 14
Chesterfield: Wehrenberg Galaxy 14
Hazelwood: Regal St. Louis Mills Stadium 18
Kansas City: AMC BarryWoods 24
Lees Summit: Dickinson EastGlen 16
Sappington: Wehrenberg Ronnies 20
St. Charles: Wehrenberg St. Charles 18
MONTANA
Billings: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Great Falls: Carmike 10
Missoula: Carmike 10
NEVADA
Las Vegas: Cinemark Century 16 South Point
Las Vegas: Cinemark Century Santa Fe Station
Las Vegas: Regal Colonnade Stadium 14
Las Vegas: Regal Red Rock Stadium 16
North Las Vegas: Galaxy Cannery
NEW JERSEY
Cherry Hill: AMC Loews Cherry Hill 24
Clifton: AMC Clifton Commons 16
Edgewater: National Amusements Edgewater Multiplex
Elizabeth: AMC Loews Jersey Gardens 20
Freehold: AMC Loews Freehold Metroplex 14
Hamilton: AMC Hamilton 24
Hazlet: National Amusements Hazlet Multiplex
Ocean: Clearview Middlebrook Cinema 10
Parsippany: Clearview Parsippany Cinema 12
Succasunna: Clearview Cinema 10
NEW MEXICO
Albuquerque: Cinemark Century Rio 24
Albuquerque: Regal UA Cottonwood Mall Stadium 16
NEW YORK
Albany: Regal Crossgates Stadium 18
Commack: National Amusements Commack Multiplex
Farmingdale: National Amusements Farmingdale Multiplex
Gates: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Hawthorne: National Amusements All Westchester Saw Mill Multiplex
Hicksville: National Amusements Broadway Multiplex
Holtsville: National Amusements Island 16: Cinema de Lux
New Rochelle: Regal New Roc City Stadium 18
New York (Bronx): National Amusements Concourse Plaza Multiplex
New York (Brooklyn): AccessIT Pavilion
New York (Brooklyn): National Amusements Linden Blvd. Multiplex
New York (Brooklyn): Regal UA Sheepshead Bay 14
New York (Manhattan): AMC Loews 84th Street 6
New York (Manhattan): AMC Empire 25
New York (Manhattan): Clearview Ziegfeld
New York (Manhattan): Regal UA Union Square Stadium 14
New York (Queens): National Amusements College Point Multiplex
New York (Queens): National Amusements Jamaica Multiplex
New York (Queens): Regal UA Kaufman Astoria Stadium 14
New York (Staten Island): Regal UA Staten Island Stadium 16
Olean: Carmike 8
Port Chester: AMC Loews Port Chester 14
Rochester: Regal Henrietta Stadium 18
Stony Brook: AMC Loews Stony Brook 17
Syracuse: Regal Carousel Mall Stadium 17
West Nyack: AMC Loews Palisades Center 21
Westbury: AMC Loews Raceway 10
Westbury: Regal UA Westbury Stadium 12
White Plains: National Amusements City Center 15: Cinema de Lux
Williamsville: Regal Transit Center Stadium 18
Yonkers: Clearview Central Plaza
Yonkers: National Amusements Cross Country Multiplex
NORTH CAROLINA
Asheville: Carmike 10
Charlotte: AMC Northlake 14
Charlotte: Regal Stonecrest 22
Durham: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Fayetteville: Carmike Market Fair 15
Greensboro: Carmike 18
Greenville: Carmike 12
Hickory: Carmike 14
Jacksonville: Carmike 16
Morrisville: Carmike Park Place 16
Raleigh: Carmike 15
Raleigh: Regal North Hills Stadium 14
Shelby: Carmike 10
Wilmington: Carmike 16
Wilson: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike Wynnsong 12
NORTH DAKOTA
Bismarck: Carmike 8
Grand Forks: Carmike 10
Minot: Carmike 9
OHIO
Beavercreek: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 14: The Greene
Cincinnati: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Western Hills
Columbus: AMC Easton Town Center 30
Columbus: AMC Lennox 24
Columbus: Rave Polaris 18
Findlay: Carmike 12
Maumee: National Amusements Maumee 18: Cinema de Lux
Milford: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Milford 16
Sandusky: Carmike Plaza 8
Springdale: National Amusements Springdale 18: Cinema de Lux
St. Clairsville: Carmike Ohio Valley Mall 11
Steubenville: Carmike 6
Toledo: National Amusements Franklin Park 16: Cinema de Lux
Valley View: Cinemark at Valley View
West Carrollton: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Dayton South
West Chester: Rave West Chester 18
OKLAHOMA
Lawton: Carmike 8
Muskogee: Carmike 6
Shawnee: Carmike Cinema Centre 8
Stillwater: Carmike 10
Tulsa: AMC Southroads 20
OREGON
Corvallis: Carmike 12
Eugene: Regal Valley River Center Stadium 15
Springfield: Cinemark 17
Tigard: Regal Bridgeport Village Stadium 18
PENNSYLVANIA
Allentown: Carmike 16
Altoona: Carmike 8
Bensalem: AMC Neshaminy 24
Center Valley: Rave Promenade 16
Cranberry Township: Carmike Cranberry Mall 8
Delmont: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Downingtown: Regal Downingtown Stadium 16
Greensburg: Carmike 15
Hermitage: Carmike Hermitage Plaza 8
King of Prussia: Regal UA King of Prussia Stadium 16
Lancaster: Regal Manor Stadium 16
Langhorne: Regal UA Oxford Valley Stadium 14
Moosic: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Oaks: Regal Marketplace @ Oaks Stadium 24
Pittsburgh: Carmike 10
Pittsburgh: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Pittsburgh West
Pleasant Hills: Carmike Southland 9
Plymouth Meeting: AMC Plymouth Meeting 12
Pottstown: Carmike Coventry 8
State College: Carmike 6
Warrington: Regal Warrington Crossing 22
Wyomissing: Carmike Wyomissing 8
RHODE ISLAND
Providence: National Amusements Providence Place 16
Warwick: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Warwick
SOUTH CAROLINA
Charleston: Carmike James Island 8
Columbia: Carmike 14
Columbia: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Columbia: Regal Sandhill Stadium 16
Greenville: Regal Hollywood 20
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Broadway 16
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Colonial 12
Spartanburg: Carmike 7
Summerville: Regal Azalea Square Stadium 16
SOUTH DAKOTA
Rapid City: Carmike Rushmore 7
Sioux Falls: Carmike 7
TENNESSEE
Antioch: Carmike Bell Forge 10
Chattanooga: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Clarksville: Carmike Governor’s Square 10
East Ridge: Rave East Ridge 18
Franklin: Carmike Thoroughbred 20
Goodlettsville: Carmike Rivergate 8
Hixson: Carmike Northgate 14
Johnson City: Carmike 14
Knoxville: Carmike 10
Knoxville: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Knoxville: Regal Pinnacle Stadium 18
Maryville: Carmike Foothills 12
Memphis: Malco Paradiso
Murfreesboro: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Nashville: Carmike Bellevue 8
Nashville: Regal Opry Mills Stadium 20
TEXAS
Abilene: Carmike Park Central 6
Amarillo: Regal UA Amarillo Star Stadium 14
Arlington: AMC Parks at Arlington 18
Austin: Galaxy Highland 10
Austin: Regal Gateway Stadium 16
College Station: Cinemark Movies 18
Edinburg: Carmike 20
El Paso: Carmike 16
El Paso: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Fort Worth: Rave Ridgmar 13
Frisco: AMC Stonebriar Mall 24
Grapevine: AMC Grapevine Mills 30
Hickory Creek: Rave Hickory Creek 16
Houston: AMC Gulf Pointe 30
Houston: AMC Studio 30
Houston: AMC Willowbrook 24
Houston: Rave Yorktown 15
Houston Regal Edwards Greenway Palace 24
Houston: Regal Grand Palace Stadium 24
Humble: AMC Deerbrook 24
Hurst: Rave North East Mall 18
Katy: Cinemark 19
Lewisville: Cinemark 15 Vista Ridge Mall
Longview: Carmike 10
Lufkin: Carmike 9
McAllen: Cinemark Movies 17
Mesquite: AMC Mesquite 30
Nacogdoches: Carmike 6
Pflugerville: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Plano: Cinemark Legacy 24
Plano: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
San Antonio: AMC Huebner Oaks 24
San Antonio: Regal Northwoods Stadium 14
San Antonio: Santikos Silverado 16
Sugar Land: AMC First Colony 24
Tyler: Carmike 14
Webster: Cinemark 18
Wichita Falls: Carmike Sikes 10
The Woodlands: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
UTAH
Provo: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Provo: Cinemark 16
Sandy: Larry H. Miller Megaplex 17 at Jordan Commons
West Jordan: Carmike 12
West Jordan: Cinemark 24 Jordan Landing
West Valley City: Carmike Ritz 15
VIRGINIA
Alexandria: AMC Hoffman 22
Alexandria: Regal Potomac Yard Stadium 16
Centreville: National Amusements Centreville Multiplex
Charlottesville: Carmike 6
Fairfax: National Amusements Fairfax Corner 14: Cinema de Lux
Hampton: AMC Hampton 24
McLean: AMC Tysons Corner 16
Midlothian: Carmike 10
Roanoke: Carmike 10
Salem: Carmike Salem Valley 8
Sterling: Regal Countryside 20
Virginia Beach: AMC Lynnhaven 18
Woodbridge: AMC Potomac Mills 18
WASHINGTON
Auburn: Regal Auburn Stadium 17
Everett: Regal Everett Mall Stadium 16
Kennewick: Carmike 12
Lacey: Regal Martin Village Stadium 16
Monroe: Galaxy Monroe 12
Puyallup: Regal Longston Place Stadium 14
Seattle: AMC Pacific Place 11
Spokane: Regal Northtown Mall 12
Vancouver: Regal Cascade Stadium 16
WEST VIRGINIA
Morgantown: Carmike Morgantown Mall 12
WISCONSIN
Eau Claire: Carmike Oakwood Mall 12
WYOMING
Cheyenne: Carmike Frontier 9
CANADA
ONTARIO
Concord: AMC Interchange 30
Mississauga: Cineplex SilverCity Mississauga
Oakville: AMC Winston Churchill 24
Scarborough: Cineplex Coliseum Scarborough
Vaughan: Cineplex Colossus Woodbridge
Whitby: AMC Whitby 24
QUEBEC
Montreal: AMC Forum 22
Montreal: Cineplex Paramount Montreal
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Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-24-2007, 02:04 AM:
Wow. Tulsa finally has a single D-Cinema equipped screen.
I've had some pleasure thumbing my nose at some friends in Oklahoma City and Tulsa for not being at the forefront of a given trend happening in the Sooner State. Smaller towns like Shawnee and even Muskogee got D-Cinema ahead of them. Actually, I'm still somewhat surprised a OKC theater, such as the Harkins Bricktown 16, has gone this long without having a single digital projection system installed.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-24-2007, 05:13 AM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
Actually, I'm still somewhat surprised a OKC theater, such as the Harkins Bricktown 16, has gone this long without having a single digital projection system installed.
Despite contradictory details obtained through Harkins corporate, their website currently indicates the Bricktown 16 in Oklahoma City will be showing "Meet The Robinsons" in digital 3-D.
Regarding Harkins, the data I had was that there would be two digital 3-D bookings in Arizona and one in California. Now, they have a brand new complex in Gilbert, AZ opening on 3/30, the release date for "Robinsons," and I wouldn't be surprised if they run it in digital 3-D there as well. They have several other fairly new complexes, and I'm surprised they haven't equiped them with digital projection on a screen or two. I'll update the list once I get all this Harkins stuff confirmed.
Posted by Hillary Charles (Member # 769) on 03-24-2007, 08:30 AM:
If one has two healthy eyes, the odds are overwhelming that to them, 3-D is normal vision, and not a gimmick.
3-D movies are only gimmicky when they overuse the "in your face" shots. If a 3-D movie is filmed and presented with the convergence at (or more appropriately, just behind) the screen surface, that is not defeating the point of 3-D, it's just using the "stereo window" properly, and keeps eyestrain to a minimun, yet allows for occasional depth effects to enhance the story where appropriate. The 3-D is still there, just not so gimmicky.
And from what I've read, there were many fears that color movies would tire the eyes of audience members. Skeptics believed that people could not sit through all that color for the length of a feature (which is absurd, because like 3-D, color vision is the norm for the majority of us). Supposedly, that is why films such as "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer" and especially "Gone With The Wind" were initially released with rather subdued colors, compared to what we're used to today. Color was originally deemed an unnecessary gimmick. How times have changed. Hopefully, with more thoughtful 3-D production and projection, that same evolution will happen with depth.
I agree with those who believe that 3-D is a logical and progressive enhancement to movie viewing, just as was sound, then multi-channel stereo sound, color, and anamorphic photography.
Posted by Caleb Johnstone-Cowan (Member # 3710) on 03-24-2007, 04:24 PM:
Saw 'Meet The Robinsons' yesterday afternoon. About ten people in a 440 seat cinema for the 3:30 show. Seven too many, I really hate out of towners and tourists in the cinema. No idea how to behave. Bit expensive at nearly £10/$18, but don't mind that much.
The film was presented with a 3D short from 1953. It's the Donald Duck one which I think introduces Chip and Dale, they steal peanuts from an elephant, and Donald is the zookeeper. Very good way to start the show.
The 3D is fantastic, Disney really know what they're doing with this, and what works and doesn't work in the format. Depth is chosen over breaking the fourth wall in nearly all the shots. Done properly this is the way forward for CGI animation. Also the style of the film, with bright colours and a retro-future feel to the characters and locations, suits the 3D effects.
The plot is alright as well, although with perhaps too much emphasis on the moral of the tale. There is enough to keep you interested, and a few funny bits. The frogs and the majority of the Robinsons were under used. I'd say Disney are still in their creative low period, but things are getting better. Lasseter seems to have more respect for the tradition of the company.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-24-2007, 04:40 PM:
What's John Lasseter doing working on a Walt Disney Features Animation project (instead of something involving Pixar)?
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-24-2007, 04:44 PM:
Isn't he the head of Disney Animation now?
Posted by Hillary Charles (Member # 769) on 03-24-2007, 06:41 PM:
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Well hopefully someday in the near future, you'll be able to go to the mall and buy a pair Oakleys with circular polarization to take with you to the multiplex where you can sit and watch the newest stereoscopic masterpiece in both comfort and style!
How about these glasses? My husband and I have the linear polarized version and they're comfortable (although don't come with prescriptions...yet).
Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 03-24-2007, 06:43 PM:
Lasseter is now chief creative officer for both Pixar AND Disney animation studios.
From the Wikipedia:
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In April 2006, Disney purchased Pixar and Lasseter was named Chief Creative Officer of both Pixar and Disney animation studios. He was also named Principal Creative Advisor at Walt Disney Imagineering, where he will help design attractions for Disney's theme parks. He will report directly to Disney chief Bob Iger, bypassing Disney's studio and theme parks executives. He also received green-light power on films.
Posted by Edwin Graf Diemer (Member # 545) on 03-24-2007, 08:42 PM:
Thanks for the "Robinsons" lists! This could be interesting-looking at the listings for New Jersey, installations are planned for both the National Amusmements Hazlet Multiplex and the Clearview Middlebrook Cinema. Both theaters are on Route 35, so patrons between the two would only have a 20-minute north/south drive for their choice. AMC/Lowes Monmouth Mall 15 (also Route 35) is sandwiched between the two, so I would not be surprised if they put in an installation soon, big grossing theater that it is.
Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 03-25-2007, 08:49 AM:
Is it still true that Real-D is primarily for medium to small rooms? I recall that it was not put into the larger rooms of a multiplex, and that they ran dual-system at the El Capitan.
At the local RAVE, it is one of the smaller rooms.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-25-2007, 01:18 PM:
It might have something to do with the fact lots of under-powered film projectors are getting installed in auditoriums with very large screens. Silver screens are not as bright as regular high gain screens. The end result might be a really unacceptably dim 3D image.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 03-25-2007, 02:01 PM:
Bobby siad "Silver screens are not as bright as regular high gain screens"
That is not true
silver screens are the highest gain screen made
As such are very directional and need to be curved properly to get an even distribution of light across the seating area
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-25-2007, 02:43 PM:
Well, yeah, I think that's really the problem. The auditoriums are just not designed for screens with a more obvious curve to them in the first place. Put a silver screen into that situation and the lamp brightness has to be increased. Even that's not a perfect solution. The properly curved screen is.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 03-25-2007, 03:24 PM:
For a person sitting on the centre line the picture will be brighter than a regular gain screen even if it is not curved but there will be a hotspot
remmeber that 3d by nature allows for in the range of 1/4-1/3 of the original light due to the loss in the polarizers
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 03-25-2007, 06:26 PM:
A very high gain screen acts much like a mirror. Ideally, the optimum curve and tilt should be determined by ray tracing to reflect the light back to the prime seating area. This will minimize hot spotting and get optimum illumination uniformity.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-25-2007, 07:50 PM:
quote: Gordon McLeod
very directional and need to be curved properly
Someone at Cinemark didn't get that memo before they installed their silver screen here for 3D. It's flat and it hotspots.
The new Regal here has curved screens. Maybe their silver screen will be better.
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 03-25-2007, 11:05 PM:
When I read David's previous comments about the hotspotting of the silver screens I was pretty concerned ours would turn out the same way. I must say the installers must have known what they were doing though because we have two of them-one curved and one flat-and neither has hotspotting issues or any noticable light issues.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-26-2007, 04:07 PM:
Filmmaker James Cameron's take on 3-D courtesy of BusinessWeekOnline.
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Online Extra: James Cameron on the Cutting Edge
The director of Terminator and Titanic explains how movies will be transformed by motion-tracking and 3D technology
Three-time Academy Award-winning director James Cameron is a pioneer in the field of motion capture. In the mid-'90s he used the nascent technology to create the massive crowd scenes and stunts in his blockbuster Titanic. These days he's still at the cutting edge of the technology, but he prefers to call motion capture "performance capture" because, as he points out, "actors don't do motion, they do emotion."
Cameron is in the midst of his latest film project, Avatar, which is his most technologically innovative film to date. The futuristic movie about an ex-Marine will be released in 2009 simultaneously with a massive, multiplayer, video game based on the film.
BusinessWeek couldn't catch up to Cameron for a sit-down interview, since he's busy creating Avatar, but reporter Aili McConnon was able to engage the director, via e-mail, in a discussion of how motion-capture technology has spurred innovation in cinema and made filmmaking more cost-effective. The following are excerpts from their virtual conversation:
What has motion capture meant to the film industry and to your work?
Performance capture (Perfcap) in recent years has enabled such stunning [computer generated] characters as Gollum (in Lord of the Rings parts 2 and 3), "King Kong," and Davy Jones (in Pirates of the Caribbean) to be brought to life. The technology is critical to the realization of my dream project, Avatar.
In fact, Avatar wasn't possible when it was first written 11 years ago, and only through pushing the technology to new levels over the past year and a half have we reached the point where the film is finally possible to make.
What innovations have you developed for Avatar?
We have greatly enhanced the size of the performance-capture stage, which we call The Volume, to six times the size previously used. And we have incorporated a real-time virtual camera, which allows me to direct [computer-generated] scenes as I would live-action scenes. I can see my actors performing as their characters, in real-time, and I can move my camera to adjust to their performances.
In addition, we have pioneered facial performance capture, in conjunction with our visual effects partner, Weta Digital. This technique eliminates hours in the makeup chair, and various other discomforts, for the actors. Previously, actors needed to have hundreds of tiny spherical markers glued to their faces, and they couldn't touch their own faces throughout the shooting day as a result. With the new system, a lightweight head-rig can be donned minutes before shooting.
We have had great success, and other filmmakers such as Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson have worked on our virtual stage doing tests for their upcoming films, and given high praise to the system.
Does the rig cover the whole head, including your face? Does it capture fine facial movements?
The rig is a small skull cap, made from a cast of the actor's head, so that it fits comfortably while being tight enough to avoid shifting. It acts as a base for a strut which resembles a concert microphone (visualize Madonna in concert), except instead of a mike in front of the face, it has a tiny camera. The key to it is the software, which interprets the movement of the actor's face, pupils, and eyelid responses as the image flows in from the video feed of the head-rig camera.
In what directions do you see the technology going in the short term?
Improvements to the software and higher computation speeds and storage densities will enable us to have more realistic environments and more refined facial emotions and hand movements. Hand movement, for example, is still at a crude state.
On Avatar, we're working on-stage at a reality level equal to an '80s video game. At the end of the day, after a year and a half of post production, the images seen by audiences will be 100% photo-real, i.e. indistinguishable from photography. But for our day-to-day shooting, the image can be improved a lot.
Another area which needs improvement is the lighting. We need to improve its ability to handle cinematic lighting, the casting of shadows and so on. All of this can be improved as Moore's Law raises the speed of processing and as upgrades to the software become available.
In addition, we're developing ways for [computer-generated] characters to interact with actors who are being photographed on real, live-action set. We will have real-time stereo (three-dimensional stereoscopic, or 3D) composites of characters, which will be viewed by me in the eyepiece of the camera while I'm shooting a live-action scene. This will be revolutionary. We're not quite there yet, but we hope to have that by August, in time for our live-action shoot in Wellington, New Zealand.
Long term, what do you expect?
I expect that more filmmakers will embrace the technique and apply it to different types of scenarios. For the creation of fantasy and science-fiction characters, Perfcap will largely replace makeup and prosthetics.
Actors need not feel threatened by this change in technology. It doesn't replace acting, in fact it's designed to empower the acting and directing process, as opposed to the traditional [computer-generated] animation process, which uses only the actor's voice, and in which a committee of animators perform the character, operate the camera, and do the lighting.
I believe it will make fantasy filmmaking much more user-friendly for filmmakers, actors, and studios, and ultimately bring down costs. It's just now possible to create photo-real human [computer-generated] characters, but it isn't cost effective.
Many other fields, from medicine to automotive design, now use similar motion-capture systems (though on a smaller scale). Do you ever run across or dream up non-entertainment applications yourself?
I'm bore-sighted on the cinematic process. While one can generally imagine all the industrial and science applications, I'm not interested in developing them. However I can visualize a number of uses for the technique in advanced forms of entertainment, at theme parks and so on.
What role will 3D play in the future of film?
Here's what can happen, although it's too early to say if it will: 3D can become ubiquitous as digital cinema replaces film. As digital cinema rolls out, stereo follows—and in some cases leads the charge, as we have seen recently with the digital 3D releases of Chicken Little and Monster House forcing the installation of hundreds of new digital projectors.
There will eventually be major titles available from all studios at some screens in almost all multiplex cinemas worldwide. I would say the horizon for this is five years. 3D can become a fully accepted way in which audiences view movies. It will become another consumer choice, like premium or regular gas. The premium experience of 3D will be the preferred viewing experience for action, animated, fantasy, and science-fiction films.
3D's broad acceptance at theaters will generate enough content that consumer-electronics manufacturers will make home players and monitors available. The technology exists now, but is not readily available as off-the-shelf products. 3D display will become a must for video and computer games.
In 20 years, stereo media may become the preferred method for displaying all information, including news and other broadcast media. The density of information one can place on a small screen becomes much higher if it's stacked in three dimensions.
Is there something beyond 3D in film? Could we ever see in cinema the same kind of physical participation we're starting to see in video-game consoles like Nintendo's Wii?
Imagine a movie in which the viewer is swept along by a narrative, following the action from place to place, but without the intervention of a camera. You can choose which character to watch in a scene, as if you're an invisible witness standing there while a real event plays out. This is still years away, at a level of realism people would consider cinematic, but certainly not decades away.
I can imagine the dense fantasy worlds I like to create for movies having an equal or greater life in a world of interactive play, authored by others, in a partnership. Of course, add massive multiplayer capability to this, and people will never leave their homes.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-26-2007, 07:20 PM:
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Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 03-26-2007, 10:41 PM:
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Of course, add massive multiplayer capability to this, and people will never leave their homes.
Yup -- just what exhibitors want to hear....nearly as horrifying as those three words that strike terror in any exhibitor's heart -- Day-And-Date!
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3D's broad acceptance at theaters will generate enough content that consumer-electronics manufacturers will make home players and monitors available. The technology exists now, but is not readily available as off-the-shelf products. 3D display will become a must for video and computer games.
Actually, he hasn't been to the computer stores lately -- it is available as off-the-shelf products, has been for at least a decade. And as soon as the studios realize they have a whole home video market just waiting to pay big bucks to see those blockbuster 3D titles up on their home theatre screens, Toshiba and Aiki and the rest of the hardware guys won't be able make those LCD shutter glasses fast enough.
And once again, the reason those chain execs decided to jump onto the digital "roll-out" was because of the promise that 3D will be their savior -- they were lead to believe that 3D titles will be the exclusive perview of cinemas and simply unavailable for home video -- at least that was the carrot the studios were holding out to exhibitors. Finallysomething that will keep that dreaded theatrical vs. home video window at bay -- in fact, permanently nailed opened.
Digital projection was an expensive install, yes, but it was the only path to 3D and 3D was to be exhibition's manna from heaven -- the savior's come wearing polaroid glasses.
Man, when that 3D release of MEET THE ROBINSONS comes out in alternating frame 3D on HD and BlueRay DVD, and when Disney/Pixar realize they can open up a whole new home video market for all their already made 3D cartoons....oh, excuse me, their animated features -- nothing like selling another tens of millions of 3D DVD copies of everything from TOY STORY to CHICKEN LITTLE all over again to the same people who bought the 2D versions -- there will be no stopping THAT roll-out.
And while everyone at The Rat is salivating at the prospect of making money yet again on the same product (for a limited time before it goes back into the "vault"), won't that just be a kick in the nuts for Regal and Cinemark and the rest of them who thought they had bought into the digital promised land with their spiffy new, albeit soon-to-be-obsolete, 2K projectors.
Hmmmm, bet they didn't see 3D home video on the horizon....nor the 4K roll-out soon to arrive for their competitors to buy into.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-27-2007, 01:46 AM:
Updated. This is THE list. (There are, however, some discrepancies between sources, so a tweak here and there may be necessary.)
For those keeping score, the current domestic Real D venue count comes in at about 530. The reported number of 680 was a worldwide figure and also was a screen count. My 530 figure is a venue count; multiple installations in the same venue are counted as one.
[Theaters identified in bold are/were/believed to be equipped with Real D but have not booked "Meet The Robinsons" in 3-D]
The Digital 3-D Engagements Of "Meet The Robinsons"
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UNITED STATES
ALABAMA
Auburn: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Birmingham: Carmike Summit 16
Birmingham: Rave Lee Branch 15
Cullman: Carmike 10
Daphne: Rave Jubilee Square 12
Decatur: Carmike 8
Florence: Carmike Regency Square 12
Hoover: Rave Patton Creek 15
Huntsville: Carmike 10
Huntsville: Rave Valley Bend 18
Mobile: Carmike 14
Mobile: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Montgomery: Carmike Eastdale 8
Montgomery: Rave Festival Plaza 16
Orange Beach: Rave Wharf 15
Vestavia Hills: Rave Vestavia Hills 10
ARIZONA
Gilbert: Harkins SanTan Village 16
Glendale: AMC Arrowhead 14
Glendale: AMC Westgate 20
Mesa: AMC Mesa Grand 24
Mesa: Cinemark 16
Peoria: Harkins Arrowhead Fountains 18
Phoenix: AMC Desert Ridge 18
Tempe: Harkins Arizona Mills 24
Tucson: AMC Loews Foothills 15
Tucson: Cinemark Century 20 El Con
ARKANSAS
Fort Smith: Carmike 14
Hot Springs: Carmike Central City 10
Little Rock: Rave Colonel Glenn 18
Mountain Home: Carmike Village 5
CALIFORNIA
Alhambra: Regal Edwards Renaissance Stadium 14
Aliso Viejo: Regal Edwards Aliso Viejo Stadium 20
Anaheim: AMC at Downtown Disney
Arcadia: AMC Santa Anita 16
Bakersfield: Regal Edwards Bakersfield Stadium 14
Burbank: AMC Burbank 16
Chino Hills: Harkins Chino Hills 18
Chula Vista: UltraStar Chula Vista 10
City of Industry: AMC Puente Hills 20
Corona: Krikorian 15 at Dos Lagos
Corona: Regal Edwards Corona Crossings Stadium 18
Costa Mesa: Regal Edwards Metro Pointe Stadium 12
Daly City: Cinemark Century 20 Daly City
Dublin: Regal Hacienda Crossings Stadium 20
El Centro: UltraStar Imperial Valley 14
Emeryville: AMC Bay Street 16
Fairfield: Regal Fairfield Stadium 16
Fontana: UltraStar Fontana 8
Fresno: Regal Edwards Fresno Stadium 21
Glendale: Mann Exchange 10
Irvine: Regal Edwards Irvine Spectrum 21
La Habra: Regal La Habra Marketplace Stadium 16
Livermore: Cinema West Livermore
Long Beach: Regal Edwards Towne Center Stadium 26
Los Angeles (Hollywood): Mann Chinese 6
Los Angeles (Hollywood): Pacific Walt Disney El Capitan
Los Angeles (Van Nuys): Mann Plant 16
Los Angeles (Westchester): National Amusements The Bridge: Cinema de Lux
Los Angeles (Westwood Village): Mann Village
Los Angeles (Woodland Hills): AMC Promenade 16
Moreno Valley: Harkins Moreno Valley 16
Mountain View: Cinemark Century 16
Ontario: AMC Ontario Mills 30
Ontario: Regal Edwards Ontario Palace Stadium 22
Orange: AMC 30 at the Block
Orange: Cinemark Century Stadium 25
Petaluma: Cinema West Boulevard Cinemas 12
Porterville: Galaxy Porterville 9
Poway: UltraStar Poway Creekside Plaza 10
Riverbank: Galaxy Riverbank 12
Rolling Hills Estates: Regal The Avenue Stadium 13
Sacramento: Cinemark Century 16 Greenback Lane
Sacramento: Regal Natomas 16
San Diego: AMC Mission Valley 20
San Diego: AMC Palm Promenade 24
San Diego: Regal Edwards Mira Mesa Stadium 18
San Diego: Regal UA Horton Plaza 14
San Diego: UltraStar Hazard Center
San Francisco: AMC Loews Metreon 15
San Jose: Cinemark Century 20 Oakridge
San Luis Obispo: The Movie Experience Fremont 4
Santa Barbara: Metropolitan Arlington
Santa Monica: AMC Santa Monica 7
Santa Monica: Mann Criterion 6
Simi Valley: Regal Simi Valley Civic Center Stadium 16
South Gate: Regal Edwards South Gate Stadium 20
Stockton: Regal City Centre Stadium 16
Temecula: Regal Edwards Temecula Stadium 15
Thousand Oaks: Mann Janss Marketplace 9
Tulare: Galaxy Tulare 10
Universal City: AMC Loews Universal City 19
West Covina: Regal Edwards West Covina Stadium 18
COLORADO
Colorado Springs: Carmike 10
Colorado Springs: Carmike Chapel Hills 15
Colorado Springs: Cinemark 17 at Carefree Circle
Denver: Harkins Northfield 18
Fort Collins: Carmike 10
Grand Junction: Carmike 7
Highlands Ranch: AMC Highlands Ranch 24
Lakewood: Regal UA Colorado Mills Stadium 16
Steamboat Springs: Carmike Chief Plaza 4
Westminster: AMC Westminster Promenade 24
CONNECTICUT
Bridgeport: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Bridgeport
Manchester: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Buckland Hills
Milford: National Amusements Connecticut Post 14: Cinema de Lux
North Haven: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas North Haven
Plainville: AMC Loews Plainville 20
DELAWARE
Dover: Carmike 14
Newark: Regal Peoples Plaza Stadium 17
Wilmington: Regal Brandywine 16
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Washington: AMC Loews Georgetown 14
FLORIDA
Altamonte Springs: AMC Altamonte 18
Aventura: AMC Aventura 24
Boca Raton: Muvico Palace 20
Bradenton: Carmike Royal Palm 20
Brandon: AMC Regency 20
Coral Springs: Regal Magnolia Place 16
Davie: Muvico Paradise 24
Destin: Rave Destin Commons 14
Fernandina Beach: Carmike Amelia Island 7
Fort Myers: Regal Belltower 20
Gainesville: Regal Royal Park Stadium 16
Jacksonville: AMC Regency Square 24
Jacksonville: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Jacksonville: Regal The Avenues Stadium 20
Kendall: Regal Kendall Village Stadium 16
Kissimmee: Regal The Loop 16
Lake Buena Vista: AMC Pleasure Island 24
Melbourne: Premiere Oaks 10
Melbourne: Rave Avenue 16
Miami: Regal Southland Mall Stadium 16
Oldsmar: AMC Woodlands Square 20
Orange Park: AMC Orange Park 24
Orlando: AMC Loews Universal Cineplex 20
Orlando: Cinemark 20 at Festival Bay
Orlando: Regal Waterford Lakes Stadium 20
Panama City: Carmike 10
Pensacola: Carmike 10
Pensacola: Rave Bayou 15
Pensacola: Rave Pensacola 18
Pinellas Park: Regal Park Place Stadium 16
Port St. Lucie: Rave St. Lucie West 14
Sarasota: AMC Sarasota 12
Sarasota: Regal Hollywood 20
Sebring: Carmike Lakeshore 8
South Miami: AMC Sunset Place 24
St. Petersburg: Muvico Baywalk 20
Sunrise: Regal Sawgrass Stadium 23
Tallahassee: AMC Tallahassee Mall 20
Tampa: Muvico Starlight 20
Tampa: Regal Citrus Park 20
GEORGIA
Albany: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Alpharetta: AMC Mansell Crossing 14
Athens: Carmike 12
Augusta: Regal Augusta Exchange 20
Buford: Regal Mall of Georgia Stadium 20
Canton: Carmike Riverstone 15
Cartersville: Carmike 12
Chamblee: Regal Hollywood 24 @ North I-85
Columbus: Carmike 15
Columbus: Carmike Hollywood Connection Ritz 10
Conyers: Carmike Crossroads 16
Dalton: Carmike 9
Douglasville: Regal Arbor Place Mall 18
Fort Benning: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Fort Oglethorpe: Carmike Battlefield 10
Kennesaw: AMC Barrett Commons 24
LaGrange: Carmike LaGrange 10
Lawrenceville: AMC Discover Mills 18
Milledgeville: Carmike 6
Morrow: AMC Southlake Pavilion 24
Newnan: Carmike 10
Savannah: Carmike 10
Savannah: Carmike Wynnsong 11
Snellville: Carmike 12
Statesboro: Carmike 12
HAWAII
Honolulu: Regal Dole Cannery Stadium 18
IDAHO
Boise: Regal Edwards Boise Stadium 21
Chubbuck: Carmike Pine Ridge 10
Coeur D’alene: Regal Riverstone 14
Nampa: Regal Edwards Nampa Stadium 14
ILLINOIS
Bloomington: Carmike Palace 10
Champaign: Carmike Beverly 18
Chicago: AMC River East 21
Decatur: Carmike Strand 10
Dekalb: Carmike Market Square 10
Forsyth: Carmike Hickory Point 12
Lincolnshire: Regal Lincolnshire Stadium 20
Lombard: AMC Yorktown 17
Normal: Carmike University 8
O’Fallon: Wehrenberg O’Fallon 15
Oak Park: Classic Lake
Peoria: Rave Grand Prairie 18
Schaumburg: AMC Loews Streets of Woodfield 20
Skokie: Kerasotes Village Crossing 18
South Barrington: AMC South Barrington 30
St. Charles: Classic Charlestowne 18
Warrenville: AMC Cantera 30
Washington: Carmike Sunnyland 10
INDIANA
Elkhart: Carmike Encore Park 14
Evansville: Kerasotes Stadium 16
Fort Wayne: Carmike 20
Fort Wayne: Rave Jefferson Pointe 18
Indianapolis: Kerasotes ShowPlace 16
Indianapolis: Regal UA Galaxy Stadium 14
Plainfield: Rave Metropolis 18
Schererville: Kerasotes ShowPlace 12
IOWA
Cedar Rapids: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Cedar Rapids: Wehrenberg Galaxy 16
Davenport: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas 53
Des Moines: Carmike Southridge 12
Johnston: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Sioux City: Carmike Southern Hills 12
Urbandale: Carmike Cobblestone 9
West Des Moines: Cinemark Century 20 Jordan Creek
KANSAS
Leawood: AMC Town Center 20
Manhattan: Carmike Seth Childs 12
KENTUCKY
Erlanger: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Erlanger
Hopkinsville: Carmike Martin 5
Lexington: Cinemark Fayette Mall
Lexington: Regal Hamburg Stadium 16
Louisville: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Louisville: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 20: Stonybrook
Newport: AMC Newport on the Levee 20
Okolona: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 16
LOUISIANA
Alexandria: Carmike Alexandria 6
Baton Rouge: Rave Baton Rouge 16
Baton Rouge: Rave Mall of Louisiana 15
Bossier City: Regal Louisiana Boardwalk Stadium 14
Lafayette: Carmike 10
Shreveport: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
MARYLAND
Abingdon: Regal Bel Air Stadium 14
Annapolis: Bow Tie Annapolis Mall 11
Baltimore: AMC Loews White Marsh 16
Columbia: AMC Columbia 14
Frederick: Regal Westview Stadium 16
Gaithersburg: AMC Loews Rio 18
Hagerstown: Regal Valley Mall Stadium 16
Hanover: Muvico Egyptian 24
Rockville: Regal Stadium 13
MASSACHUSETTS
Bellingham: Regal Bellingham Stadium 14
Boston: AMC Loews Boston Common 19
Boston: Regal Fenway Stadium 13
Danvers: AMC Loews Liberty Tree Mall 20
Framngham: AMC Framngham 15
Lowell: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Lowell
Methuen: AMC Loews Methuen 20
Milbury: National Amusements Blackstone Valley 14: Cinema de Lux
Randolph: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Randolph
Revere: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Revere
Seekonk: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Seekonk Route 6
West Springfield: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas West Springfield 1-15
Woburn: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Woburn
Worcester: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Worcester North
MICHIGAN
Auburn Hills: AMC Star Great Lakes Crossing 25
Battle Creek: Carmike Lakeview Square 10
Brighton: MJR Brighton Towne Square Cinema 20
Canton: Emagine Canton 18
Clinton Township: AMC Star Gratiot 21
Flint: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Flint West
Fort Gratiot: Carmike Birchwood 10
Grandville: Cinemark 20
Jackson: Carmike Plaza 8
Kalamazoo: Goodrich Kalamazoo 10
Kalamazoo: Rave Cityplace 14
Kentwood: Loeks Celebration! Cinema Grand Rapids South
Livonia: AMC Livonia 20
Novi: Emagine Novi 18
Saginaw: Carmike Fashion Square 10
Sault Ste. Marie: Carmike Varsity 10
Southgate: MJR Southgate Cinema 20
Sterling Heights: AMC Forum 30
Sterling Heights: MJR Marketplace Cinema 20
Traverse City: Carmike Grand Traverse 9
Traverse City: Carmike Horizon 10
Waterford: MJR Waterford Cinema 16
Ypsilanti: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Ann Arbor
MINNESOTA
Apple Valley: Carmike 15
Coon Rapids: Kerasotes ShowPlace 16
Edina: AMC Southdale 16
Mankato: Carmike 6
Maple Grove: AMC Arbor Lakes 16
Mounds View: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Oakdale: Carmike Oakdale Stadium 20
Roseville: AMC Rosedale 14
MISSISSIPPI
Madison: Malco Grandview
MISSOURI
Chesterfield: AMC Chesterfield 14
Chesterfield: Wehrenberg Galaxy 14
Hazelwood: Regal St. Louis Mills Stadium 18
Kansas City: AMC BarryWoods 24
Lees Summit: Dickinson EastGlen 16
Sappington: Wehrenberg Ronnies 20
St. Charles: Wehrenberg St. Charles 18
MONTANA
Billings: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Great Falls: Carmike 10
Missoula: Carmike 10
NEVADA
Las Vegas: Cinemark Century Santa Fe Station
Las Vegas: Regal Colonnade Stadium 14
Las Vegas: Regal Red Rock Stadium 16
North Las Vegas: Galaxy Cannery
NEW JERSEY
Cherry Hill: AMC Loews Cherry Hill 24
Clifton: AMC Clifton Commons 16
Edgewater: National Amusements Edgewater Multiplex
Elizabeth: AMC Loews Jersey Gardens 20
Freehold: AMC Loews Freehold Metroplex 14
Hamilton: AMC Hamilton 24
Hazlet: National Amusements Hazlet Multiplex
Ocean: Clearview Middlebrook Cinema 10
Parsippany: Clearview Parsippany Cinema 12
Succasunna: Clearview Cinema 10
NEW MEXICO
Albuquerque: Cinemark Century Rio 24
Albuquerque: Regal UA Cottonwood Mall Stadium 16
NEW YORK
Albany: Regal Crossgates Stadium 18
Commack: National Amusements Commack Multiplex
Farmingdale: National Amusements Farmingdale Multiplex
Farmingdale: Regal UA Farmingdale Stadium 10
Gates: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Hawthorne: National Amusements All Westchester Saw Mill Multiplex
Hicksville: National Amusements Broadway Multiplex
Holtsville: National Amusements Island 16: Cinema de Lux
New Rochelle: Regal New Roc City Stadium 18
New York (Bronx): National Amusements Concourse Plaza Multiplex
New York (Brooklyn): AccessIT Pavilion
New York (Brooklyn): National Amusements Linden Blvd. Multiplex
New York (Brooklyn): Regal UA Sheepshead Bay 14
New York (Manhattan): AMC Empire 25
New York (Manhattan): AMC Loews 84th Street 6
New York (Manhattan): Clearview Ziegfeld
New York (Manhattan): Regal E-Walk Stadium 13
New York (Manhattan): Regal UA Union Square Stadium 14
New York (Queens): National Amusements College Point Multiplex
New York (Queens): National Amusements Jamaica Multiplex
New York (Queens): Regal UA Kaufman Astoria Stadium 14
New York (Staten Island): Regal UA Staten Island Stadium 16
Olean: Carmike 8
Portchester: AMC Loews Port Chester 14
Rochester: Regal Henrietta Stadium 18
Stony Brook: AMC Loews Stony Brook 17
Syracuse: Regal Carousel Mall Stadium 17
West Nyack: AMC Loews Palisades Center 21
Westbury: AMC Loews Raceway 10
Westbury: Regal UA Westbury Stadium 12
White Plains: National Amusements City Center 15: Cinema de Lux
Williamsville: Regal Transit Center Stadium 18
Yonkers: Clearview Central Plaza
Yonkers: National Amusements Cross Country Multiplex
NORTH CAROLINA
Asheville: Carmike 10
Charlotte: AMC Northlake 14
Charlotte: Regal Stonecrest 22
Durham: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Fayetteville: Carmike Market Fair 15
Greensboro: Carmike 18
Greenville: Carmike 12
Hickory: Carmike 14
Jacksonville: Carmike 16
Morrisville: Carmike Park Place 16
Raleigh: Carmike 15
Raleigh: Regal North Hills Stadium 14
Shelby: Carmike 10
Wilmington: Carmike 16
Wilson: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike Wynnsong 12
NORTH DAKOTA
Bismarck: Carmike 8
Grand Forks: Carmike 10
Minot: Carmike 9
OHIO
Beavercreek: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 14: The Greene
Beavercreek: Regal Hollywood Stadium 20 @ Fairfield Commons
Cincinnati: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Western Hills
Columbus: AMC Easton Town Center 30
Columbus: AMC Lennox Town Center 24
Columbus: Rave Polaris 18
Findlay: Carmike 12
Maumee: National Amusements Maumee 18: Cinema de Lux
Milford: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Milford 16
Sandusky: Carmike Plaza 8
Sheffield Village: Regal Cobblestone Square Stadium 20
Springdale: National Amusements Springdale 18: Cinema de Lux
St. Clairsville: Carmike Ohio Valley Mall 11
Steubenville: Carmike 6
Toledo: National Amusements Franklin Park 16: Cinema de Lux
Valley View: Cinemark at Valley View
West Carrollton: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Dayton South
West Chester: Rave West Chester 18
OKLAHOMA
Lawton: Carmike 8
Muskogee: Carmike 6
Oklahoma City: Harkins Bricktown 16
Shawnee: Carmike Cinema Centre 8
Stillwater: Carmike 10
Tulsa: AMC Southroads 20
OREGON
Bend: Regal Old Mill 16
Corvallis: Carmike 12
Eugene: Regal Valley River Center Stadium 15
Portland: Regal Lloyd Center 10
Salem: Regal Lancaster Mall Stadium 11
Springfield: Cinemark 17
Tigard: Regal Bridgeport Village Stadium 18
PENNSYLVANIA
Allentown: Carmike 16
Altoona: Carmike 8
Bensalem: AMC Neshaminy 24
Center Valley: Rave Promenade 16
Cranberry Township: Carmike Cranberry Mall 8
Delmont: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Downingtown: Regal Downingtown Stadium 16
Greensburg: Carmike 15
Hermitage: Carmike Hermitage Plaza 8
King of Prussia: Regal UA King of Prussia Stadium 16
Lancaster: Regal Manor Stadium 16
Langhorne: Regal UA Oxford Valley Stadium 14
Moosic: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Oaks: Regal Marketplace @ Oaks Stadium 24
Pittsburgh: Carmike 10
Pittsburgh: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Pittsburgh West
Pleasant Hills: Carmike Southland 9
Plymouth Meeting: AMC Plymouth Meeting 12
Pottstown: Carmike Coventry 8
State College: Carmike 6
Warrington: Regal Warrington Crossing 22
Wyomissing: Carmike Wyomissing 8
RHODE ISLAND
Providence: National Amusements Providence Place 16
Warwick: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Warwick
SOUTH CAROLINA
Charleston: Carmike James Island 8
Columbia: Carmike 14
Columbia: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Columbia: Regal Sandhill Stadium 16
Greenville: Regal Hollywood 20
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Broadway 16
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Colonial 12
Spartanburg: Carmike 7
Summerville: Regal Azalea Square Stadium 16
SOUTH DAKOTA
Rapid City: Carmike Rushmore 7
Sioux Falls: Carmike 7
TENNESSEE
Antioch: Carmike Bell Forge 10
Chattanooga: Carmike Bijou 7
Chattanooga: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Clarksville: Carmike Governor’s Square 10
East Ridge: Rave East Ridge 18
Franklin: Carmike Thoroughbred 20
Goodlettsville: Carmike Rivergate 8
Hixson: Carmike Northgate 14
Johnson City: Carmike 14
Knoxville: Carmike 10
Knoxville: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Knoxville: Regal Pinnacle Stadium 18
Maryville: Carmike Foothills 12
Memphis: Malco Paradiso
Murfreesboro: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Nashville: Carmike Bellevue 8
Nashville: Regal Opry Mills Stadium 20
TEXAS
Abilene: Carmike Park Central 6
Amarillo: Regal UA Amarillo Star Stadium 14
Arlington: AMC Parks at Arlington 18
Austin: Galaxy Highland 10
Austin: Regal Gateway Stadium 16
College Station: Cinemark Movies 18
Edinburg: Carmike 20
El Paso: Carmike 16
El Paso: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Fort Worth: Rave Ridgmar 13
Frisco: AMC Stonebriar Mall 24
Grapevine: AMC Grapevine Mills 30
Hickory Creek: Rave Hickory Creek 16
Houston: AMC Gulf Pointe 30
Houston: AMC Studio 30
Houston: AMC Willowbrook 24
Houston: Rave Yorktown 15
Houston Regal Edwards Greenway Palace 24
Houston: Regal Grand Palace Stadium 24
Humble: AMC Deerbrook 24
Hurst: Rave North East Mall 18
Katy: Cinemark 19
Lewisville: Cinemark 15 Vista Ridge Mall 15
Longview: Carmike 10
Lufkin: Carmike 9
McAllen: Cinemark Movies 17
Mesquite: AMC Mesquite 30
Nacogdoches: Carmike 6
Pflugerville: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Plano: Cinemark Legacy 24
Plano: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
San Antonio: AMC Huebner Oaks 24
San Antonio: Regal Cielo Vista Stadium 18
San Antonio: Regal Northwoods Stadium 14
San Antonio: Santikos Silverado 16
Southlake: Harkins Southlake Town Square 14
Sugar Land: AMC First Colony 24
Tyler: Carmike 14
Webster: Cinemark 18
Wichita Falls: Carmike Sikes 10
The Woodlands: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
UTAH
Provo: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Provo: Cinemark 16
Sandy: Larry H. Miller Megaplex 17 at Jordan Commons
West Jordan: Carmike 12
West Jordan: Cinemark 24 Jordan Landing
West Valley City: Carmike Ritz 15
VIRGINIA
Alexandria: AMC Hoffman 22
Alexandria: Regal Potomac Yard Stadium 16
Centreville: National Amusements Centreville Multiplex
Charlottesville: Carmike 6
Fairfax: National Amusements Fairfax Corner 14: Cinema de Lux
Fairfax: Regal Fairfax Town Center 10
Glen Allen: Regal Virginia Center 20
Hampton: AMC Hampton 24
Manassas: Regal Manassas Stadium 14
McLean: AMC Tysons Corner 16
Midlothian: Carmike 10
Roanoke: Carmike 10
Salem: Carmike Salem Valley 8
Sterling: Regal Countryside 20
Virginia Beach: AMC Lynnhaven 18
Virginia Beach: Regal Columbus Stadium 12
Woodbridge: AMC Potomac Mills 18
WASHINGTON
Auburn: Regal Auburn Stadium 17
Everett: Regal Everett Mall Stadium 16
Kennewick: Carmike 12
Lacey: Regal Martin Village Stadium 16
Monroe: Galaxy Monroe 12
Puyallup: Regal Longston Place Stadium 14
Seattle: AMC Pacific Place 11
Spokane: Regal Northtown Mall 12
Vancouver: Regal Cascade Stadium 16
WEST VIRGINIA
Morgantown: Carmike Morgantown Mall 12
WISCONSIN
Eau Claire: Carmike Oakwood Mall 12
WYOMING
Cheyenne: Carmike Frontier 9
CANADA
ONTARIO
Concord: AMC Interchange 30
Mississauga: Cineplex SilverCity Mississauga
Oakville: AMC Winston Churchill 24
Scarborough: Cineplex Coliseum Scarborough
Vaughan: Cineplex Colossus Woodbridge
Whitby: AMC Whitby 24
QUEBEC
Montreal: AMC Forum 22
Montreal: Cineplex Paramount Montreal
[ 03-28-2007, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: Michael Coate ]
Posted by Hillary Charles (Member # 769) on 03-27-2007, 06:14 AM:
quote: Frank Angel
Actually, he hasn't been to the computer stores lately -- it is available as off-the-shelf products, has been for at least a decade. And as soon as the studios realize they have a whole home video market just waiting to pay big bucks to see those blockbuster 3D titles up on their home theatre screens
You're right Frank, we're already seeing the beginning of what I believe will be the ultimate form of 3-D presentation. Instead of using shutter glasses to watch a common screen, though, I believe that the ultimate immersive 3-D will be experienced with headsets like these.
Because so much of the viewer's vision is filled with the image, the "you are there" feeling will be easier to achieve than with all but the largest screens. With that and stereo sound also in the headset, everyone is sitting in the sweet spot.
Posted by Caleb Johnstone-Cowan (Member # 3710) on 03-27-2007, 04:57 PM:
You can't see your popcorn or drink with the headset on, or get intimate with your date, or go to the loo easily. I think the visors will stay as a niche.
Posted by Hillary Charles (Member # 769) on 03-27-2007, 05:27 PM:
Agreed. That would most likely be a home-type system rather than in any kind of cinema. For the purists. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-27-2007, 06:10 PM:
I received word Harkins Theaters has started installing a digital projection system early this week with RealD capability and plans to have it up and running before Friday when Meet The Robinsons opens.
Don't know specifically what kind of projection system is being installed or even which house in the Bricktown 16 will be featuring the show. I have some doubts it'll be in the Cine Capris. However, something like a Christie CP2000-X might be able to contend with that huge screen. If it were my ball to play, I'd probably put it into a bit of a more modestly sized house.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-27-2007, 08:01 PM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
I received word Harkins Theaters has started installing a digital projection system early this week with RealD capability and plans to have it up and running before Friday when Meet The Robinsons opens.
Dude, this has already been confirmed! Didn't you see my post from 3/24 or the updated list from earlier today?
Harkins thus far has installed digital projection with Real D enhancement in eight of their theatres located in five states.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-28-2007, 01:08 AM:
Someone who actually works at that theater e-mailed me. The system is currently being installed. It is NOT up and running yet. They plan on having it operational on Friday.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-28-2007, 02:07 AM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
The system is currently being installed. It is NOT up and running yet. They plan on having it operational on Friday.
So what. This is the situation with many of the theatres on the list. But I don't think that's any reason to keep them off the list.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-28-2007, 09:43 AM:
The "in progress" status on that theater's D-Cinema installation is still worthy of listing, given the small chance "Murphy" might rear his ugly head and bring about a technical problem where the theater isn't ready this Friday.
That doesn't affect you, Mike, since you live out in California and have no risk of traveling any considerable distance to watch a movie at that specific theater. Others in this part of the country might find it more interesting and should be advised about the situation.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-29-2007, 12:19 PM:
Film-Tech News Alert: Regal is charging a $2.50 premium for the 3D presentation here. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 03-29-2007, 01:15 PM:
All Carmike's are charging a $2 premium per ticket. Also, no discount tickets are being accepted.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-29-2007, 01:27 PM:
Update: Cinemark is staying with $1.50 for 3D. They're also running a new logo in the (increasingly irrelevant?) newspaper ad. Unfortunately it's extremely small and almost impossible to read in the print ad.
Cinemark Digital Edge
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-29-2007, 06:05 PM:
This is stuff is really confusing from a standpoint of simple logic.
EXACTLY HOW can companies like Disney or even Cinemark smack their own "brand" on a 3D movie when they did not do anything at all to develop that technology?
It would be the same thing as a company like Paramount saying, "screw Dolby and their 5.1 track, we're going to call it Paramount Pinnacle Surround Sound!!!" You see how stupid that sounds. Well, it's just as stupid for Disney and Cinemark and whoever else to re-brand RealD as well. RealD is ONLY RealD and not anything else. It isn't Disney. It is not Cinemark. It is not anything else. These companies need to stop lying and just say "RealD" in the freaking ads.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-29-2007, 06:39 PM:
I read it as Cinemark branding their "presentation" to differentiate them from competitors, not necessarily as a rebranding of ReadD, although I can see how you're getting there. RealD isn't exactly backed by a meangingful marketing campaign, and apparently RealD hasn't imposed much if any restrictions on how exhibitors advertise the system.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-29-2007, 09:11 PM:
At a second glance, Cinemark's campaign isn't exactly a re-branding of RealD. Still, it doesn't make much sense.
My feeling is a company shouldn't stick their name all over the technology unless they actually developed some of the hardware that is being used to present it.
"Dolby Digital Cinema" seems perfectly fine as a branding scheme since Dolby makes a number of digital cinema products that are part of that system.
It's too bad AccessIT can't seem to come up with something more catchy in their D-Cinema marketing. IMHO, their ad scheme makes me thing of accounting software or some hard to use networking stuff that only hardcore IT guys can figure out. There isn't a simple branding concept with their package. The Carmike theater in my town shows some pretty cool snipes for Christie Projectors and Texas Instruments DLP. Does Doremi have any trailers to promote their server gear?
Posted by Jarryd Beard (Member # 2543) on 03-30-2007, 07:53 PM:
I've seen an AccessIT snipe on a handful of AccessIT distributed digital hard drives. We've never run it as part of our features. I thought is was boring compared to the Christie and DLP snipes. It was shorter as well. Recently, we haven't been receiving as many digital prints from AccessIT. Even so, the snipe hasn't been part of their content. I think it's still hanging out on our LMS.
Posted by Sam King (Member # 4029) on 03-31-2007, 01:37 AM:
FOR MTR 3D we open the show with the TI DLP Snipe (2D) (my favorate) then after the trailers and before the feature we have the Dolby Digital Cinema Snipe, The RealD Snipe, and The Disney Digital 3D Snip, all of course 3D. Might be a lot of "policy" stuff but it's all just soo cool!
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-31-2007, 10:18 AM:
Maybe I'm going crazy, but I'd swear to God that when we opened CHICKEN LITTLE, we had a 3D version of that DLP snipe. Can anyone confirm this thing's existence?
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 03-31-2007, 05:46 PM:
Can anyone cofirm...the grosses on this movie aren't exactly living up to predictions nor commanding anything great because it is 3-D...and that is with a typical $2 surcharge in this area for the 3-D version.
Posted by Sam King (Member # 4029) on 03-31-2007, 09:35 PM:
quote: Mike Schindler
Maybe I'm going crazy, but I'd swear to God that when we opened CHICKEN LITTLE, we had a 3D version of that DLP snipe. Can anyone confirm this thing's existence?
Yes there was, but it was MPEG. I Don't think they have made a 3D JPEG2000 version of it yet. C'mon TI, get with it!
Posted by Shane Cooper (Member # 2510) on 03-31-2007, 10:51 PM:
quote: Steve Guttag
Can anyone cofirm...the grosses on this movie aren't exactly living up to predictions nor commanding anything great because it is 3-D...and that is with a typical $2 surcharge in this area for the 3-D version.
I can't speak for everyone and I don't want to post specific sales, but we have sold out consistently on two screens for the last two days. Our third print is 2-D and has only seen overflow business from the sold out 3-D showings.
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 04-01-2007, 12:53 AM:
The kids love it. Lots of 'oohs' and 'aahs'. Whent he show ends there is typically more than one 'that was awesome!' and 'we have to see that again'.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-01-2007, 04:43 PM:
quote: Steve Guttag
Can anyone cofirm...the grosses on this movie aren't exactly living up to predictions nor commanding anything great because it is 3-D...and that is with a typical $2 surcharge in this area for the 3-D version.
Yahoo! News Story
quote:
By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer
1 hour, 22 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES - Stars-on-ice Will Ferrell and Jon Heder took the box office gold for the weekend. Paramount and DreamWorks' "Blades of Glory," with Ferrell and Heder playing figure-skating rivals who become the sport's first men's pair, debuted as the No. 1 movie with $33 million in ticket sales, according to studio estimates Sunday.
Disney's animated adventure "Meet the Robinsons," about the time-traveling journey of a brilliant but lonely orphan, debuted in second place with $25.1 million.
The previous weekend's top movie — the Warner Bros. animated tale "TMNT," a revival of the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle" franchise — slipped to fourth place with $9.2 million, down a steep 62 percent from its $24.3 million debut. "TMNT" raised its 10-day total to $38.4 million.
After a monthlong surge, the overall box office declined. The top 12 movies took in $115 million, down 13 percent from the same weekend last year, when "Ice Age: The Meltdown" opened with $68 million.
"This is still a good weekend, a pretty healthy one-two punch with `Blades of Glory' and `Meet the Robinsons' at the top," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
Movie attendance is up 4 percent so far this year, Dergarabedian said.
Teaming with "Napoleon Dynamite" star Heder on "Blades of Glory," Ferrell scored the second-best opening of his career, behind last summer's "Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby," which took in $47 million in its first weekend.
"It starts with a great concept, and the whole picture was cast so well," said DreamWorks spokesman Marvin Levy. "Another part of the surprise was, we got a ton of very, very good reviews."
"Meet the Robinsons" played in about 3,400 theaters and did especially well in a 3-D version at 600 cinemas, said Chuck Viane, head of distribution for Disney. The studio did not have a precise breakdown, but cinemas reported that screens playing the 3-D version pulled in about double the grosses of theaters running the regular 2-D version, Viane said.
Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Media By Numbers LLC. Final figures will be released Monday.
1. "Blades of Glory," $33 million.
2. "Meet the Robinsons," $25.1 million.
3. "300," $11.2 million.
4. "TMNT," $9.2 million.
5. "Wild Hogs," $8.4 million.
6. "Shooter," $8 million.
7. "Premonition," $5.1 million.
8. "The Last Mimzy," $4 million.
9. "The Hills Have Eyes 2," $3.9 million.
10. "Reign Over Me," $3.7 million.
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-01-2007, 06:40 PM:
Thanks!
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 04-01-2007, 06:50 PM:
The 2PM Real D show at the new Regal 15 here in Eugene today was about 3/4 full.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-02-2007, 02:43 AM:
Boxofficemojo's take on the weekend's figures
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'Blades' Takes Gold, 'Robinsons' Merits Silver
by Brandon Gray
April 1, 2007
Two broad comedies, Blades of Glory and Meet the Robinsons, skated to the top of the box office as last weekend's releases slipped. After four up weekends in a row, overall business was down eleven percent from the same time last year when Ice Age: The Meltdown opened to a spectacular $68 million.
Taking a comparable tack as Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby but with figure-skating instead of car racing, Blades of Glory landed an estimated $33 million on around 4,400 screens at 3,372 venues. In the vicinity of DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story's debut, the over $60 million picture starring Will Ferrell and Jon Heder scored the fourth highest-grossing start ever for a sports comedy and was the second-highest for Ferrell behind Talladega. Paramount Pictures distributed the DreamWorks and MTV Films co-production, which was also produced by Ben Stiller's Red Hour Films (Dodgeball).
In Blades of Glory, Ferrell reprised the over-the-top, boorish, wittily dim-witted type of character that served him well in Talladega Nights and Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy, his only post-Elf successes. Though Heder (Napoleon Dynamite) was promoted as the co-lead early in Blades' marketing campaign, television ads, posters and billboards leading up to the picture's release pushed Ferrell and excluded Heder. "You lead with your strongest hitter," said DreamWorks spokesman Marvin Levy, though he did not cede the Ferrell focus late in the game. Levy added that the audience was 53 percent under 25 years old and slightly female, according to the studio's preliminary exit polling, while moviegoer pollster CinemaScore's grade was "A-."
Meet the Robinsons launched at $25.1 million on 4,400 screens at 3,413 theaters, which included digital 3-D presentations on 587 screens at 484 locations. Though distributor Buena Vista didn't have a precise breakout, the 3-D presentations grossed twice as much on average as the regular version. The computer-animated comedy's debut was solid by the recently lowered standards of the genre, but it was significantly less than Chicken Little and Robots among similar movies.
"It's right on the expectation level [of $25 to $28 million]," said Chuck Viane, Buena Vista's president of distribution. "And of course we're playing into the Easter holiday which begins Monday and by Friday 80 percent of kids will be out of school." Buena Vista's polling indicated that the audience was 78 percent families and 53 percent female, while the CinemaScore was "A-."
Meet the Robinsons's manic ads sold the comedy, centering on gags involving a Tyrannosaurus Rex, singing frogs and a hyper lady with caffeine patches, but not the story, which could only be gleamed from the trailer.
Among holdovers, 300 was still in the fight, falling 44 percent to an estimated $11.2 million for $179.7 million in 24 days. Its IMAX runs accounted for $1.5 million of the weekend, down 29 percent, and $15 million of the total. March's other breakout hit, Wild Hogs, had its steepest drop yet, 39 percent, but nonetheless grossed an estimated $8.4 million. With $135.4 million in 31 days, it surpassed Bringing Down the House, which distributor Buena Vista had used as a model for its release.
Aside from Shooter, last weekend's slew of new releases plummeted in their second weekend. After being heralded as a franchise revival upon its No. 1 debut, TMNT devolved 62 percent to an estimated $9.2 million for $38.4 million in 10 days and, at its current trajectory, will likely be the least-attended of the four Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies.
Particularly alarming was The Last Mimzy, the New Line Cinema family picture that was depending on word-of-mouth for long-term playability. It slid 60 percent to an estimated $4 million for a mere $16.2 million in 10 days. The Hills Have Eyes 2 dove 59 percent to an estimated $3.9 million, when its predecessor was down 49 percent in its second weekend with twice the gross. Two dramas, Reign Over Me and Pride, evaporated as well.
Shooter had a typical drop of 45 percent to an estimated $8 million. The $60 million-plus action picture's 10-day total stands at a flabby $27.2 million.
The weekend saw a marketing experiment from Universal Pictures. The studio re-issued Peaceful Warrior, a drama that made a meager $1.1 million last summer under Lionsgate's tutelage. To build word-of-mouth, Universal offered $15 million worth of tickets through retailer Best Buy that people could redeem for free at 615 theaters on this weekend only, and another $2 million was spent on prints and advertising. According to Universal, about 250,000 tickets were redeemed and the movie generated the equivalent of $2.1 million, 11 percent of which came from paying moviegoers. The unconventional release means the picture will not be listed on the box office charts, though it will continue for paying audiences through the week.
Also opening, The Lookout limped to an estimated $2 million at 955 sites, which ranks near the bottom among heist pictures.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-02-2007, 09:46 AM:
The whole thing about "The 3-D release grossed twice as much as the 2D" is stupid, STUPID! Of COURSE the 3-D grossed more. If you were a kid, which would you want to see? And with the 3-D version priced lower, it's a no-brainer.
A better experiment would've been to release Meet the Robinsons 3-D and "Ratatouille" at the same time and see which of them grossed more: The 3-D kiddie film, or the Pixar film with the good story.
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 04-02-2007, 10:11 AM:
Are they talking double per screen average or double for the 3D showings when a complex is playing 2D and 3D. If it's the latter it's even more stupid. Even if it's the former, from what I've seen (other than carmike that is throwing in 3D all over the place) most 3D is being installed in high grossing locations. Those locations probably have a higher per screen average to begin with.
It's obvious from the grosses that 3D didn't turn this into a "must see" movie.
[ 04-02-2007, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: Lyle Romer ]
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-02-2007, 12:38 PM:
Mike, the 3-D version was priced higher...$2 where I checked and I've heard as much as $3 higher.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-02-2007, 01:19 PM:
D'oh! I knew that... [slapping forehead] I typed too fast or failed to proofread, one or the other.
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-02-2007, 02:00 PM:
See now...that is what happens when you slap your head too much...you get a "no brainer." ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 04-04-2007, 12:40 PM:
And if a mouse had a brain, it would have released this title in Stereovision on single strip film and let any of the other 3000 theatres that wanted to run it in 3D have a go at it. Putting in a silver screen and buying a Stereovision convergence lens and even installing a larger lamphouse where necessary would be a lot less expensive than buying a $120,000 digital system and having to put in a silver screen anyway.
But I guess Disney is not interested in promoting or encouraging film bookings. OK, they'll make prints if they have to, after all, they can't very well line their pockets with $$$ based on the take from a paultry 600 screens, now can they? But no question, they obviously want to use this 3D engagement as a little arm-twisting to encourage exhibition to bite the bullit and get with the agenda, damn it -- ALL digital projection by the year 1999! Ooop, by 2002?....er, definately by 2005, no?....surely by 2007?....well, anyway, right after the big "roll out."
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-04-2007, 05:57 PM:
And if George Lucas really cared about the beautiful colors looking their best in his movies, he would have struck the prints on Vision Premier stock instead of plain old Vision stock. But of course, he did not. I guess he didn't want the film to look too much better than the digital. I'm kind of surprised he didn't release the film versions of SW on black and white film stock with a variable density mono track.
Posted by Matt Fields (Member # 3211) on 04-04-2007, 08:24 PM:
The theatres that have the 3D would have been higher grossing theatres with any version...only the big city/high grossing theatres can afford Real D.
I have had one person ask me if we have the movie in 3D.
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 04-04-2007, 11:32 PM:
About 130 of the locations listed in Micheal's list are Carmikes. Carmike is mostly located in smaller/mid sized markets. Places like Bobby's Lawton, OK and my Eau Claire, WI aren't exactly major markets but both are playing Robinsons in 3-D.
Posted by Matt Fields (Member # 3211) on 04-05-2007, 08:00 AM:
Yes, but a quick look at Micheal's list shows many theatres 12 screens and up (look at Florida), including many of the Carmikes (North Carolina). These large theatres generally have the largest grosses, reguardless of format.
In the area I am most familiar with (Columbus and Cincinnati, OH) the 3D engagements had the largest grosses in the area. But they would have anyway, because only the highest grossing theatres had it in 3D.
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 04-05-2007, 02:53 PM:
Actually a perfect illustration would be my theatre and the near competition. Anyone with access to Rentrack should look up Carmike Cinemas Oakwood 12 in Eau Claire, WI and Micon Cinemas Stadium 8 in Chippewa Falls, WI. Chippewa is smaller than Eau Claire but Micon is located such that it can draw from both cities. They typically do just as well as the Eau Claire theatre on kids films. Micon has one film print and we have 2 digital 3D prints.
Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 04-05-2007, 11:00 PM:
How does "Real D" digitial presentations work anywho (since I've seen the two machine version)
Posted by Jarryd Beard (Member # 2543) on 04-06-2007, 10:36 AM:
Check out this thread.. Also, there is a fairly interesting Disney Digital 3-D Wikipedia article.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-06-2007, 12:10 PM:
The wikipedia article is grossly inaccurate.
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...eliminates "3-D headache" present in other 3-D systems, especially those relying on film projection.
The polarization technique (whether it's linear or circular) has nothing to do with whether the presentation is film based or digital based. I agree that circular polarization is a better method than linear polarization. But that's not the film's fault.
The list of advantages of having a single projector are interesting too.
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It produces full-range color unlike red/cyan 3-D that relies on cardboard glasses with red and cyan color filters.
That's true, but it's because it's polarized, NOT because it's a single projector.
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It eliminates most "ghost images" caused by the left eye seeing a bit of the right-eye frames and vice versa.
I don't think that has anything to do with there only being one projector. I think two projectors would be just fine on that front.
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It eliminates any form of temporal (time) or spatial misalignment of the left-eye and right-eye frames that plagued previous 3-D projection systems relying on movie film.
What?! Properly presented dual strip 35mm (and 70mm and IMAX for that matter) presentations have both frames on the screen at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME, which is something that the single projector digital system DOES NOT AND CAN NOT DO, which indeed CAUSES the very problem this article is talking about, and which I have documented in the thread that Jarryd linked to. ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 04-06-2007, 12:55 PM:
You're absolutely correct!
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It produces full-range color unlike red/cyan 3-D that relies on cardboard glasses with red and cyan color filters.
Both Spy Kids 3 and Sharkboy and Lava Girl were shown in anaglyph 3D on a single digital projector.
quote:
It eliminates most "ghost images" caused by the left eye seeing a bit of the right-eye frames and vice versa.
Not true. I've seen severe ghosting on both REAL D and active 3D glasses from a single digital projector. The REAL D difference is that the circular polarizer allows for the 3D image to remain steady when the head is tilted.
Posted by Jarryd Beard (Member # 2543) on 04-06-2007, 10:40 PM:
Anyone is able to edit the Wikipedia pages. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea for you guys to contribute your knowledge to the Disney Digital 3-D page.
Posted by Sam King (Member # 4029) on 04-07-2007, 12:38 AM:
Ghosting on RealD is typically caused by a Z Screen that is angled. We tilted it so that it was verticle, and no more ghosting.
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 04-07-2007, 12:42 AM:
the Z-screen has a level bubble on it just make sure it is level and everything should be fine.
Posted by Sam King (Member # 4029) on 04-07-2007, 02:42 AM:
i don't mean on that axis. If that axis is the X axis, I am referring to the Z axis. Make sense?
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-08-2007, 04:49 AM:
quote: Michael Coate
There are, however, some discrepancies between sources, so a tweak here and there may be necessary.
Here's an updated version of the "Meet The Robinsons" digital 3-D locations list with the discrepancies between sources accounted for. Or at least as many of them that I could verify. The majority of this revision has been deletions, mostly small-market Carmike venues. I estimate there's now a difference of +-4 entries between my numbers and those attributed to Buena Vista in news reports.
(And damn if I still didn't have to intentionally misspell one of the city and theatre names to outsmart a filter created to, uh, discourage film-tech discussion of a certain, uh, sound system inventor! Sorry Brad, I couldn't resist. )
[Theaters identified in bold are/were/or will soon be equipped with Real D but are not currently showing "Meet The Robinsons" in 3-D]
The Digital 3-D Engagements Of "Meet The Robinsons"
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UNITED STATES
ALABAMA
Auburn: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Birmingham: Carmike Summit 16
Cullman: Carmike 10
Daphne: Rave Jubilee Square 12
Florence: Carmike Regency Square 12
Hoover: Rave Patton Creek 15
Huntsville: Carmike 10
Huntsville: Rave Valley Bend 18
Mobile: Carmike 14
Mobile: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Montgomery: Carmike Eastdale 8
Montgomery: Rave Festival Plaza 16
Orange Beach: Rave Wharf 15
Vestavia Hills: Rave Vestavia Hills 10
ARIZONA
Gilbert: Harkins SanTan Village 16
Glendale: AMC Arrowhead 14
Glendale: AMC Westgate 20
Mesa: AMC Mesa Grand 24
Mesa: Cinemark 16
Peoria: Harkins Arrowhead Fountains 18
Phoenix: AMC Desert Ridge 18
Tempe: Harkins Arizona Mills 24
Tucson: AMC Loews Foothills 15
Tucson: Cinemark Century 20 El Con
ARKANSAS
Fort Smith: Carmike 14
Little Rock: Rave Colonel Glenn 18
CALIFORNIA
Alhambra: Regal Edwards Renaissance Stadium 14
Aliso Viejo: Regal Edwards Aliso Viejo Stadium 20
Anaheim: AMC at Downtown Disney
Arcadia: AMC Santa Anita 16
Bakersfield: Regal Edwards Bakersfield Stadium 14
Burbank: AMC Burbank 16
Chino: Harkins Chino Hills 18
Chula Vista: UltraStar Chula Vista 10
City of Industry: AMC Puente Hills 20
Corona: Krikorian 15 at Dos Lagos
Corona: Regal Edwards Corona Crossings Stadium 18
Costa Mesa: Regal Edwards Metro Pointe Stadium 12
Daly City: Cinemark Century 20 Daly City
Dublin: Regal Hacienda Crossings Stadium 20
El Centro: UltraStar Imperial Valley 14
Fairfield: Regal Fairfield Stadium 16
Fontana: UltraStar Fontana 8
Fresno: Regal Edwards Fresno Stadium 21
Glendale: Mann Exchange 10
Irvine: Regal Edwards Irvine Spectrum 21
La Habra: Regal La Habra Marketplace Stadium 16
Livermore: Cinema West Livermore
Long Beach: Regal Edwards Towne Center Stadium 26
Los Angeles (Hollywood): Mann Chinese 6
Los Angeles (Hollywood): Pacific Walt Disney El Capitan
Los Angeles (Van Nuys): Mann Plant 16
Los Angeles (Westchester): National Amusements The Bridge: Cinema de Lux
Los Angeles (Westwood Village): Mann Village
Los Angeles (Woodland Hills): AMC Promenade 16
Moreno Valley: Harkins Moreno Valley 16
Mountain View: Cinemark Century 16
Ontario: AMC Ontario Mills 30
Ontario: Regal Edwards Ontario Palace Stadium 22
Orange: AMC 30 at the Block
Orange: Cinemark Century Stadium 25
Petaluma: Cinema West Boulevard Cinemas 12
Porterville: Galaxy Porterville 9
Poway: UltraStar Poway Creekside Plaza 10
Riverbank: Galaxy Riverbank 12
Rolling Hills Estates: Regal The Avenue Stadium 13
Sacramento: Cinemark Century 16 Greenback Lane
Sacramento: Regal Natomas Marketplace 16
San Diego: AMC Mission Valley 20
San Diego: AMC Palm Promenade 24
San Diego: Regal Edwards Mira Mesa Stadium 18
San Diego: Regal UA Horton Plaza 14
San Diego: UltraStar Hazard Center
San Francisco: AMC Loews Metreon 15
San Jose: Cinemark Century 20 Oakridge
San Luis Obispo: The Movie Experience Fremont 4
Santa Barbara: Metropolitan Arlington
Santa Monica: AMC Santa Monica 7
Santa Monica: Mann Criterion 6
Simi Valley: Regal Simi Valley Civic Center Stadium 16
South Gate: Regal Edwards South Gate Stadium 20
Stockton: Regal City Centre Stadium 16
Temecula: Regal Edwards Temecula Stadium 15
Thousand Oaks: Mann Janss Marketplace 9
Tulare: Galaxy Tulare 10
Universal City: AMC Loews Universal City
West Covina: Regal Edwards West Covina Stadium 18
COLORADO
Colorado Springs: Carmike 10
Colorado Springs: Carmike Chapel Hills 15
Colorado Springs: Cinemark 17 at Carefree Circle
Denver: Harkins Northfield 18
Fort Collins: Carmike 10
Grand Junction: Carmike 7
Highlands Ranch: AMC Highlands Ranch 24
Lakewood: Regal UA Colorado Mills Stadium 16
Westminster: AMC Westminster Promenade 24
CONNECTICUT
Bridgeport: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Bridgeport
Manchester: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Buckland Hills
Milford: National Amusements Connecticut Post 14: Cinema de Lux
North Haven: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas North Haven
Plainville: AMC Loews Plainville 20
DELAWARE
Dover: Carmike 14
Newark: Regal Peoples Plaza Stadium 17
Wilmington: Regal Brandywine 16
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Washington: AMC Loews Georgetown 14
FLORIDA
Altamonte Springs: AMC Altamonte 18
Aventura: AMC Aventura 24
Boca Raton: Muvico Palace 20
Bradenton: Carmike Royal Palm 20
Brandon: AMC Regency 20
Coral Springs: Regal Magnolia Place 16
Davie: Muvico Paradise 24
Destin: Rave Destin Commons 14
Fort Myers: Regal Belltower 20
Gainesville: Regal Royal Park Stadium 16
Jacksonville: AMC Regency Square 24
Jacksonville: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Jacksonville: Regal The Avenues Stadium 20
Kendall: Regal Kendall Village Stadium 16
Kissimmee: Regal The Loop 16
Lake Buena Vista: AMC Pleasure Island 24
Melbourne: Premiere Oaks 10
Melbourne: Rave Avenue 16
Miami: Regal Southland Mall Stadium 16
Oldsmar: AMC Woodlands Square 20
Orange Park: AMC Orange Park 24
Orlando: AMC Loews Universal Cineplex 20
Orlando: Cinemark 20 at Festival Bay
Orlando: Regal Waterford Lakes Stadium 20
Panama City: Carmike 10
Pensacola: Carmike 10
Pensacola: Rave Bayou 15
Pensacola: Rave Pensacola 18
Pinellas Park: Regal Park Place Stadium 16
Port St. Lucie: Rave St. Lucie West 14
Sarasota: AMC Sarasota 12
Sarasota: Regal Hollywood 20
South Miami: AMC Sunset Place 24
St. Petersburg: Muvico Baywalk 20
Sunrise: Regal Sawgrass Stadium 23
Tallahassee: AMC Tallahassee Mall 20
Tampa: Muvico Starlight 20
Tampa: Regal Citrus Park 20
GEORGIA
Albany: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Alpharetta: AMC Mansell Crossing 14
Athens: Carmike 12
Augusta: Regal Augusta Exchange 20
Buford: Regal Mall of Georgia Stadium 20
Canton: Carmike Riverstone 15
Cartersville: Carmike 12
Chamblee: Regal Hollywood 24 @ North I-85
Columbus: Carmike Hollywood Connection Ritz 10
Conyers: Carmike Crossroads 16
Dalton: Carmike 9
Douglasville: Regal Arbor Place Mall 18
Fort Benning: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Fort Oglethorpe: Carmike Battlefield 10
Kennesaw: AMC Barrett Commons 24
Lawrenceville: AMC Discover Mills 18
Morrow: AMC Southlake Pavilion 24
Newnan: Carmike 10
Savannah: Carmike 10
Savannah: Carmike Wynnsong 11
Snellville: Carmike 12
Statesboro: Carmike 12
HAWAII
Honolulu: Regal Dole Cannery Stadium 18
IDAHO
Boise: Regal Edwards Boise Stadium 21
Chubbuck: Carmike Pine Ridge 10
Coeur d’Alene: Regal Riverstone 14
Nampa: Regal Edwards Nampa Stadium 14
ILLINOIS
Bloomington: Carmike Palace 10
Champaign: Carmike Beverly 18
Chicago: AMC River East 21
Lincolnshire: Regal Lincolnshire Stadium 20
Lombard: AMC Yorktown 17
O’Fallon: Wehrenberg O’Fallon 15
Oak Park: Classic Lake
Peoria: Rave Grand Prairie 18
Schaumburg: AMC Loews Streets of Woodfield 20
Skokie: Kerasotes Village Crossing 18
South Barrington: AMC South Barrington 30
St. Charles: Classic Charlestowne 18
Warrenville: AMC Cantera 30
INDIANA
Evansville: Kerasotes Stadium 16
Fort Wayne: Carmike 20
Fort Wayne: Rave Jefferson Pointe 18
Indianapolis: Kerasotes ShowPlace 16
Indianapolis: Regal UA Galaxy Stadium 14
Plainfield: Rave Metropolis 18
Schererville: Kerasotes ShowPlace 12
IOWA
Cedar Rapids: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Cedar Rapids: Wehrenberg Galaxy 16
Davenport: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas 53
Des Moines: Carmike Southridge 12
Johnston: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Sioux City: Carmike Southern Hills 12
Urbandale: Carmike Cobblestone 9
West Des Moines: Cinemark Century 20 Jordan Creek
KANSAS
Leawood: AMC Town Center 20
Manhattan: Carmike Seth Childs 12
KENTUCKY
Erlanger: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Erlanger
Lexington: Cinemark Fayette Mall
Lexington: Regal Hamburg Stadium 16
Louisville: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Louisville: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 20: Stonybrook
Newport: AMC Newport on the Levee 20
Okolona: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 16
LOUISIANA
Baton Rouge: Rave Baton Rouge 16
Baton Rouge: Rave Mall of Louisiana 15
Bossier City: Regal Louisiana Boardwalk Stadium 14
Lafayette: Carmike 10
Shreveport: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
MARYLAND
Abingdon: Regal Bel Air Stadium 14
Annapolis: Bow Tie Annapolis Mall 11
Baltimore: AMC Loews White Marsh 16
Columbia: AMC Columbia 14
Frederick: Regal Westview Stadium 16
Gaithersburg: AMC Loews Rio 18
Hagerstown: Regal Valley Mall Stadium 16
Hanover: Muvico Egyptian 24
Rockville: Regal Stadium 13
MASSACHUSETTS
Bellingham: Regal Bellingham Stadium 14
Boston: AMC Loews Boston Common 19
Boston: Regal Fenway Stadium 13
Danvers: AMC Loews Liberty Tree Mall 20
Framngham: AMC Framngham 15
Lowell: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Lowell
Methuen: AMC Loews Methuen 20
Milbury: National Amusements Blackstone Valley 14: Cinema de Lux
Randolph: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Randolph
Revere: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Revere
Seekonk: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Seekonk Route 6
West Springfield: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas West Springfield 1-15
Woburn: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Woburn
Worcester: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Worcester North
MICHIGAN
Auburn Hills: AMC Star Great Lakes 25
Battle Creek: Carmike Lakeview Square 10
Brighton: MJR Brighton Towne Square Cinema 20
Canton: Emagine Canton 18
Clinton: AMC Star Gratiot 21
Flint: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Flint West
Fort Gratiot: Carmike Birchwood 10
Grandville: Cinemark 20
Jackson: Carmike Plaza 8
Kalamazoo: Goodrich Kalamazoo 10
Kalamazoo: Rave Cityplace 14
Kentwood: Loeks Celebration! Cinema Grand Rapids South
Livonia: AMC Livonia 20
Novi: Emagine Novi 18
Saginaw: Carmike Fashion Square 10
Southgate: MJR Southgate Cinema 20
Sterling Heights: AMC Forum 30
Sterling Heights: MJR Marketplace Cinema 20
Traverse City: Carmike Grand Traverse 9
Waterford: MJR Waterford Cinema 16
Ypsilanti: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Ann Arbor
MINNESOTA
Apple Valley: Carmike 15
Coon Rapids: Kerasotes ShowPlace 16
Edina: AMC Southdale 16
Mankato: Carmike Stadium 6
Maple Grove: AMC Arbor Lakes 16
Mounds View: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Oakdale: Carmike Oakdale Stadium 20
Roseville: AMC Rosedale 14
MISSISSIPPI
Madison: Malco Grandview
MISSOURI
Chesterfield: AMC Chesterfield 14
Chesterfield: Wehrenberg Galaxy 14
Hazelwood: Regal St. Louis Mills Stadium 18
Kansas City: AMC BarryWoods 24
Lee’s Summit: Dickinson EastGlen 16
Sappington: Wehrenberg Ronnies 20
St. Charles: Wehrenberg St. Charles 18
NEVADA
Las Vegas: Cinemark Century Santa Fe Station
Las Vegas: Regal Colonnade Stadium 14
Las Vegas: Regal Red Rock Stadium 16
North Las Vegas: Galaxy Cannery
NEW JERSEY
Cherry Hill: AMC Loews Cherry Hill 24
Clifton: AMC Clifton Commons 16
Edgewater: National Amusements Edgewater Multiplex
Elizabeth: AMC Loews Jersey Gardens 20
Freehold: AMC Loews Freehold Metroplex 14
Hamilton: AMC Hamilton 24
Hazlet: National Amusements Hazlet Multiplex Cinemas Route 35
Ocean: Clearview Middlebrook Galleria Cinema 10
Parsippany: Clearview Parsippany Cinema 12
Succasunna: Clearview Succasunna Cinema 10
NEW MEXICO
Albuquerque: Cinemark Century Rio 24
Albuquerque: Regal UA Cottonwood Mall Stadium 16
NEW YORK
Albany: Regal Crossgates Stadium 18
Commack: National Amusements Commack Multiplex Cinemas
Farmingdale: National Amusements Farmingdale Multiplex Cinemas
Farmingdale: Regal UA Farmingdale Stadium 10
Gates: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Hawthorne: National Amusements All Westchester Saw Mill Multiplex Cinemas
Hicksville: National Amusements Broadway Multiplex Cinemas
Holtsville: National Amusements Island 16: Cinema de Lux
New Rochelle: Regal New Roc City Stadium 18
New York (Bronx): National Amusements Concourse Plaza Multiplex Cinemas
New York (Brooklyn): AccessIT Pavilion
New York (Brooklyn): National Amusements Linden Boulevard Multiplex Cinemas
New York (Brooklyn): Regal UA Sheepshead Bay 14
New York (Manhattan): AMC Empire 25
New York (Manhattan): AMC Loews 84th Street 6
New York (Manhattan): Clearview Ziegfeld
New York (Manhattan): Regal E-Walk Stadium 13
New York (Manhattan): Regal UA Union Square Stadium 14
New York (Queens): National Amusements College Point Multiplex Cinemas
New York (Queens): National Amusements Jamaica Multiplex Cinemas
New York (Queens): Regal UA Kaufman Astoria Stadium 14
New York (Staten Island): Regal UA Staten Island Stadium 16
Port Chester: AMC Loews Port Chester 14
Rochester: Regal Henrietta Stadium 18
Stony Brook: AMC Loews Stony Brook 17
Syracuse: Regal Carousel Mall Stadium 17
West Nyack: AMC Loews Palisades Center 21
Westbury: AMC Loews Raceway 10
Westbury: Regal UA Westbury Stadium 12
White Plains: National Amusements City Center 15: Cinema de Lux
Williamsville: Regal Transit Center Stadium 18
Yonkers: Clearview Central Plaza
Yonkers: National Amusements Cross Country Multiplex Cinemas
NORTH CAROLINA
Asheville: Carmike 10
Charlotte: AMC Northlake 14
Charlotte: Regal Stonecrest 22
Durham: Carmike Wynnsong 15
Fayetteville: Carmike Market Fair 15
Greensboro: Carmike 18
Greenville: Carmike 12
Hickory: Carmike 14
Jacksonville: Carmike 16
Morrisville: Carmike Park Place 16
Raleigh: Carmike 15
Raleigh: Regal North Hills Stadium 14
Shelby: Carmike 10
Wilmington: Carmike 16
Wilson: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike 10
Winston-Salem: Carmike Wynnsong 12
NORTH DAKOTA
Bismarck: Carmike 8
Minot: Carmike Stadium 9
OHIO
Beavercreek: National Amusements Cinema de Lux 14: The Greene
Beavercreek: Regal Hollywood Stadium 20 @ Fairfield Commons
Cincinnati: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Western Hills
Columbus: AMC Easton Town Center 30
Columbus: AMC Lennox Town Center 24
Columbus: Rave Polaris 18
Findlay: Carmike 12
Maumee: National Amusements Maumee 18: Cinema de Lux
Milford: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Milford 16
Sandusky: Carmike Plaza 8
Sheffield: Regal Cobblestone Square Stadium 20
Springdale: National Amusements Springdale 18: Cinema de Lux
St. Clairsville: Carmike Ohio Valley Mall 11
Steubenville: Carmike 6
Toledo: National Amusements Franklin Park 16: Cinema de Lux
Valley View: Cinemark at Valley View
West Carrollton: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Dayton South
West Chester: Rave West Chester 18
OKLAHOMA
Lawton: Carmike 8
Muskogee: Carmike 6
Oklahoma City: Harkins Bricktown 16
Shawnee: Carmike Cinema Centre 8
Stillwater: Carmike 10
Tulsa: AMC Southroads 20
OREGON
Bend: Regal Old Mill 16
Corvallis: Carmike 12
Eugene: Regal Valley River Center Stadium 15
Portland: Regal Lloyd Center 10
Salem: Regal Lancaster Mall Stadium 11
Springfield: Cinemark 17
Tigard: Regal Bridgeport Village Stadium 18
PENNSYLVANIA
Allentown: Carmike 16
Bensalem: AMC Neshaminy 24
Bethel Park: Carmike 10
Center Valley: Rave Promenade 16
Cranberry: Carmike Cranberry Mall 8
Delmont: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Downingtown: Regal Downingtown Stadium 16
Greensburg: Carmike 15
Hermitage: Carmike Hermitage Plaza 8
King of Prussia: Regal UA King of Prussia Stadium 16
Lancaster: Regal Manor Stadium 16
Langhorne: Regal UA Oxford Valley Stadium 14
Moosic: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Oaks: Regal Marketplace @ Oaks Stadium 24
Pleasant Hills: Carmike Southland 9
Plymouth Meeting: AMC Plymouth Meeting 12
Robinson: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Pittsburgh West
State College: Carmike 6
Warrington: Regal Warrington Crossing 22
Wyomissing: Carmike Wyomissing 8
RHODE ISLAND
Providence: National Amusements Providence Place Cinemas 16
Warwick: National Amusements Showcase Cinemas Warwick
SOUTH CAROLINA
Columbia: Carmike 14
Columbia: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Columbia: Regal Sandhill Stadium 16
Greenville: Regal Hollywood 20
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Broadway 16
Myrtle Beach: Carmike Colonial 12
Summerville: Regal Azalea Square Stadium 16
SOUTH DAKOTA
Rapid City: Carmike Rushmore 7
Sioux Falls: Carmike 7
TENNESSEE
Antioch: Carmike Bell Forge 10
Chattanooga: Carmike Bijou 7
Chattanooga: Carmike Wynnsong 10
Clarksville: Carmike Governor’s Square 10
East Ridge: Rave East Ridge 18
Franklin: Carmike Thoroughbred 20
Goodlettsville: Carmike Rivergate 8
Hixson: Carmike Northgate 14
Johnson City: Carmike 14
Knoxville: Carmike 10
Knoxville: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Knoxville: Regal Pinnacle Stadium 18
Maryville: Carmike Foothills 12
Memphis: Malco Paradiso
Murfreesboro: Carmike Wynnsong 16
Nashville: Carmike Bellevue 8
Nashville: Regal Opry Mills Stadium 20
TEXAS
Abilene: Carmike Park Central 6
Amarillo: Regal UA Amarillo Star Stadium 14
Arlington: AMC Parks at Arlington 18
Austin: Galaxy Highland 10
Austin: Regal Gateway Stadium 16
College Station: Cinemark Movies 18
Edinburg: Carmike 20
El Paso: Carmike 16
El Paso: Cinemark Tinseltown USA
Fort Worth: Rave Ridgmar 13
Frisco: AMC Stonebriar Mall 24
Grapevine: AMC Grapevine Mills 30
Hickory Creek: Rave Hickory Creek 16
Houston: AMC Gulf Pointe 30
Houston: AMC Studio 30
Houston: AMC Willowbrook 24
Houston: Rave Yorktown 15
Houston: Regal Edwards Greenway Palace 24
Houston: Regal Grand Palace Stadium 24
Humble: AMC Deerbrook 24
Hurst: Rave North East Mall 18
Katy: Cinemark 19
Lewisville: Cinemark 15 Vista Ridge Mall
Longview: Carmike 10
Lufkin: Carmike Lufkin Mall 9
McAllen: Cinemark Movies 17
Mesquite: AMC Mesquite 30
Nacogdoches: Carmike 6
Pflugerville: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
Plano: Cinemark Legacy 24
Plano: Cinemark Tinseltown 20
San Antonio: AMC Huebner Oaks 24
San Antonio: Regal Cielo Vista Stadium 18
San Antonio: Regal Northwoods Stadium 14
San Antonio: Santikos Silverado 16
Southlake: Harkins Southlake Town Square 14
Sugar Land: AMC First Colony 24
Tyler: Carmike 14
Webster: Cinemark 18
Wichita Falls: Carmike Sikes 10
The Woodlands: Cinemark Tinseltown 17
UTAH
Provo: Carmike Wynnsong 12
Provo: Cinemark 16
Sandy: Larry H. Miller Megaplex 17 at Jordan Commons
West Jordan: Carmike 12
West Jordan: Cinemark 24 Jordan Landing
West Valley City: Carmike Ritz 15
VIRGINIA
Alexandria: AMC Hoffman 22
Alexandria: Regal Potomac Yard Stadium 16
Centreville: National Amusements Centreville Multiplex Cinemas
Fairfax: National Amusements Fairfax Corner 14: Cinema de Lux
Fairfax: Regal Fairfax Town Center 10
Glen Allen: Regal Virginia Center 20
Hampton: AMC Hampton 24
Manassas: Regal Manassas Stadium 14
McLean: AMC Tysons Corner 16
Midlothian: Carmike 10
Roanoke: Carmike 10
Sterling: Regal Countryside 20
Virginia Beach: AMC Lynnhaven 18
Virginia Beach: Regal Columbus Stadium 12
Woodbridge: AMC Potomac Mills 18
WASHINGTON
Auburn: Regal Auburn Stadium 17
Everett: Regal Everett Mall Stadium 16
Kennewick: Carmike 12
Lacey: Regal Martin Village Stadium 16
Monroe: Galaxy Monroe 12
Puyallup: Regal Longston Place Stadium 14
Seattle: AMC Pacific Place 11
Spokane: Regal Northtown Mall 12
Vancouver: Regal Cascade Stadium 16
WEST VIRGINIA
Morgantown: Carmike Morgantown Mall 12
WISCONSIN
Eau Claire: Carmike Oakwood Mall 12
WYOMING
Cheyenne: Carmike Frontier 9
CANADA
ONTARIO
Concord: AMC Interchange 30
Mississauga: Cineplex SilverCity Mississauga
Oakville: AMC Winston Churchill 24
Scarborough: Cineplex Coliseum Scarborough
Vaughan: Cineplex Colossus Woodbridge
Whitby: AMC Whitby 24
QUEBEC
Montreal: AMC Forum 22
Montreal: Cineplex Paramount Montreal
[ 04-08-2007, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: Michael Coate ]
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-08-2007, 04:42 PM:
Yahoo! News Story
quote:
'Blades' Stays on Top With $23 Million
Sunday April 8 1:35 PM ET
Movie audiences were more interested in light comedy over Easter weekend than in Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez's "Grindhouse," a double-feature ode to bloody exploitation flicks.
Paramount and DreamWorks' figure-skating romp "Blades of Glory" remained the No. 1 movie with $23 million, followed for the second weekend by Disney's animated comedy "Meet the Robinsons" with $17 million, according to studio estimates Sunday.
"Grindhouse," a three-hour reinvention of the down-and-dirty B-movie double features Tarantino and Rodriguez grew up watching, debuted at No. 4 with $11.6 million.
It finished behind Sony's family comedy "Are We Done Yet?", starring Ice Cube in a sequel to "Are We There Yet?", which opened at No. 3 with $15 million.
Released by the Weinstein Co., "Grindhouse" fell well short of expectations. Box-office forecasters had figured the movie would premiere in the ballpark of Tarantino's two "Kill Bill" movies and Rodriguez's "Sin City," whose opening weekends ranged from $22 million to $29 million.
The weak debut for "Grindhouse" was a blow to the Weinstein Co., formed two years ago by brothers Harvey and Bob Weinstein after they departed their old outfit, Disney-owned Miramax. The "Grindhouse" directors were steady providers for the Weinsteins at Miramax, which released Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction" and "Kill Bill" films and Rodriguez's "Spy Kids" movies.
"Grindhouse" presents two full films. Rodriguez's "Planet Terror" features Rose McGowan as a go-go dancer who becomes a zombie fighter with a machine gun for a leg. Tarantino's "Death Proof" stars Kurt Russell as a serial killer who stalks women with his beefed-up car.
"With these two filmmakers' pedigree and the overall cool factor that this film had going for it, you would have figured it would have done a lot more business," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
The movie's running time was an impediment, limiting the number of screenings theaters could fit in.
Harvey Weinstein said disappointing returns for "Grindhouse" resulted from the "novelty in America of releasing a double bill and asking an audience to make a three-hour commitment."
"Grindhouse" played to big crowds on the East and West coasts but failed to click with audiences in the Midwest and South, Weinstein said.
With theatrical receipts, overseas sales, television and home-video revenues, "Grindhouse" will turn a profit on its $53 million budget, Weinstein said. The company hoped that word of mouth from those who did see it would sustain it at theaters in coming weeks, he said.
"If you go see it with any audience, walk into any theater, you'll see people screaming and applauding like a rock concert," Weinstein said. "Maybe we didn't educate the audience that it's such an experience."
Movie-goers clearly were in the mood for something lighter. "Blades of Glory," starring Will Ferrell and Jon Heder as skating rivals who team up as the sport's first men's pair, raised its 10-day total to $68.4 million, its receipts dropping a slim 30 percent from opening weekend.
"There's a real hunger out there for something that you can go to and say, 'Hey, let me get away from the terrible things we have to watch and read every day,'" said Marvin Levy, spokesman for DreamWorks, one of the studios behind "Blades of Glory."
"Meet the Robinsons," the animated adventure of a time-traveling orphan boy, also held strongly in its second weekend, raising its 10-day total to $52.2 million.
Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Media By Numbers LLC. Final figures will be released Monday.
1. "Blades of Glory," $23 million.
2. "Meet the Robinsons," $17 million.
3. "Are We Done Yet?", $15 million.
4. "Grindhouse," $11.6 million.
5. "The Reaping," $10.1 million.
6. "300," $8.8 million.
7. "Wild Hogs," $6.8 million.
8. "Shooter," $5.8 million.
9. "TMNT," $4.9 million.
10. "Firehouse Dog," $4 million.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-12-2007, 08:52 AM:
quote: Paul Linfesty
Anyone know if the El Capitan will be projecting from the same set-up they used for Chicken Little? With Dual projection and static circular polarizers rather than the single/active Z-filter?
I spoke with an El Capitan projectionist yesterday and he told me "Meet The Robinsons" is not being shown in a dual-projector format.
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-13-2007, 11:12 PM:
Apparently, the dual-projector method is being used down under.
quote:
Sydney-Apr 10, 2007
Dual Projector Digital 3D Brightens the Future for Cinemas
Atlab Image & Sound Technology (AI&ST) has supplied and commissioned the first two-projector stereoscopic 3D commercial digital cinema sites in Australia and New Zealand. The sites, in Brisbane, Australia and Auckland, New Zealand were ready for the release of Disney's feature, "Meet the Robinsons".
Using the newly updated Dolby Digital Cinema System and separate left eye and right eye projectors that are fitted with fixed circular polarising filters, the sites are able to reproduce 3D images with stunning depth and clarity.
Ben Wilson, AI&ST's Sales and Marketing manager comments: "Because there are two projectors, this system provides greater light output than active-shuttered single projector set-ups used elsewhere. This means the system can be used in cinemas with a larger seating capacity. Additionally, no third party license fees are payable. Both factors positively contribute to greater box office potential."
From March 29 (March 31 in New Zealand), "Meet the Robinsons" audiences wearing state of the art 3D glasses will be transported by digital projection to the world of Lewis, an orphan with a genius IQ and a passion for inventing.
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-14-2007, 02:35 AM:
Which costs more? The fees to Real-D or that second projector (and presumably second server too)?
And all this for a fad.
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 04-14-2007, 02:17 PM:
Real-D(umb) is about 20 grand per screen per year. Fees like this kinda make Imax look childish. At any rate in 4 years the typical D-Cinema projector will e paid for by not going Real-D(umb). I agree with Steve on this one.... just a fad and an expensive one at aht. If 3-D is here to syat for very long I believe that the Dolby 3-D system will quench anyone's desire to pay Real-D(umb) any more fees.
Mark
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 04-18-2007, 04:08 AM:
LA TIMES story on D-Cinema's progress:
quote:
Showing at theaters: urgency of digital shift
By Josh Friedman, Times Staff Writer
April 9, 2007
The revolution in moviegoing will be digital, theater owner Bill Campbell knows.
But Campbell, who runs independent theaters in Sheridan, Wyo., and Miles City, Mont., isn't ready to take up such an expensive cause just yet.
"I'm still using film projectors that were built in the 1950s and I can fix them myself," Campbell said. "What if your digital server goes down? Dark screens are death to the theater industry."
For moviegoers, Hollywood's shift to digital cinema will mean clearer pictures, more 3-D offerings, movie houses that can easily add to the number of theaters showing popular films and event programs such as sports and concerts.
For theater owners, it means lower costs because prints will be eliminated. It also creates a new marketing hook to get people into the seats.
With incentives like that, the movie industry's transformation from prints to digital projectors logically should take place sooner, not later. But for nearly a decade it has been hampered by the high cost to convert and disputes over how studios and exhibitors will foot the bill.
Finally, however, digital cinema is slowly gaining traction despite holdouts such as Campbell. About 4,000 of the world's roughly 150,000 screens are digitally equipped compared with 1,700 a year ago, according to Texas Instruments Inc., which licenses the leading digital cinema technology.
By year-end the chip company expects the count to reach 7,000, with the majority of those conversions in the U.S., which has about 38,000 screens overall.
After moving at a snail's pace, the transition has taken on a new urgency as theater owners compete with increasingly sophisticated home entertainment systems and other diversions such as video games and the Internet. Digital cinema was front and center at the recent ShoWest industry conference for exhibitors in Las Vegas, with much of the discussion about the $100,000 cost per screen.
If the switch takes an exceptionally long time, "I believe there will not be a cinema business here anymore," said Drew Kaza, an executive vice president at British theater chain Odeon Cinemas Ltd., addressing attendees at the conference. "We've got to get real about this."
But digital boosters say the industry is finally getting serious about the conversion.
"There is typically a love-hate relationship between studios and exhibitors, but this time they're working together to make sure it happens," said Shea Wallon, vice president of the sports and entertainment group at GE Commercial Finance, a backer of digital cinema.
GE Commercial last year provided a $217-million credit line for Christie Digital Systems Inc. and Access Integrated Technologies Inc., which are rapidly installing their projectors and servers in theaters.
Hollywood and theater owners see huge potential benefits.
Studios eventually could save a total of $1 billion a year in distribution costs. Producing and shipping 35-millimeter films costs roughly $1,200 per print, but sending digital files or satellite transmissions can slash that expense by 90%, according to industry estimates.
For now the savings are theoretical as studios make a long-term bet on the benefits of digital. They are subsidizing the installation of digital systems at U.S. theater chains by paying "virtual print fees" to the manufacturers, and they still must make thousands of film prints.
Cheaper distribution could enable smaller films to be screened more widely, said John Fithian, president of the National Assn. of Theatre Owners. The high cost of distribution is a major impediment to independent films, he said.
Helping give the conversion a boost is the resurgence of 3-D films, which today are shown predominantly in digitally equipped theaters. In its opening weekend, Walt Disney Co.'s animated "Meet the Robinsons" grossed an average of $12,200 per theater at the almost 600 digital theaters showing it in 3-D — more than double the average gross at regular theaters. Some theaters were able to hike ticket prices 20%.
Directors Robert Zemeckis and James Cameron are making big-budget 3-D movies. DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc. said its whole slate would be shot in that format starting in 2009.
Beyond 3-D, programming flexibility is one of the biggest appeals of digitally equipped theaters. Alternative entertainment such as sporting events could be shown during the day or on nights when moviegoing is light.
Cineplex Entertainment, Canada's largest theater chain, has been screening "WrestleMania" matches for several years. Recently it added hockey games, rock concerts and simulcasts of New York's Metropolitan Opera.
The opera has been shown on as many as four multiplex screens at a time to accommodate matinee crowds, said spokeswoman Pat Marshall, adding that it brings in a new demographic.
Ultimately, theater owners see their multiplexes thriving as broadly defined entertainment destinations.
"The world is getting so competitive," said Michael Whalen, president of Muvico Theaters, which is installing Sony Electronics' "4K" digital system at its new Chicago multiplex. He said cinemas needed to improve the moviegoing experience amid competition from better home-entertainment systems and shorter time spans between a film's theatrical release and its DVD debut.
Whalen dreams of packed houses for events such as NBA games or the Super Bowl in 3-D.
Technological issues remain formidable, however.
For now, loading or moving a digital movie can take hours because of the massive file size, said Michael Karagosian, a consultant to the theater industry. A 35-millimeter film print, by contrast, can be moved in 15 minutes. In addition, converting older, smaller systems to digital remains a problem.
Ultimately, the hope is that a multiplex will be able to move a surprise hit to its biggest auditorium, or demote a flop to the smallest, almost instantly with just a few keyboard strokes.
Studios gush about how crisp and pristine a digital movie remains even after hundreds of screenings, but not every filmmaker is sold on its superiority.
Paramount Pictures has released digital versions of almost every movie since last summer's "Mission: Impossible III," said Mark Christiansen, vice president of operations at the studio.
But when it screened Clint Eastwood's World War II drama "Flags of Our Fathers" digitally before last fall's release, the director and his team balked.
"They just didn't think it gave the same visceral feeling," Christiansen said. "We're always going to listen to the filmmakers."
Despite the uncertainties, manufacturers and theater owners expect the digital deployment to accelerate further in 2008 and 2009. The majority of the world's screens will be digital within five years, Texas Instruments predicts.
"The good news is, the momentum is there," theater industry consultant Karagosian said. "Five years ago, I couldn't say that."
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-18-2007, 10:48 AM:
quote: Josh Friedman, L.A. Times
For theater owners, it means lower costs because prints will be eliminated. It also creates a new marketing hook to get people into the seats.
When will the press realize the movie distributors are the only ones saving money with this type of thing? Theater owners aren't saving any money at all. Digital projection is costing them more money.
quote: Josh Friedman, L.A. Times
Studios gush about how crisp and pristine a digital movie remains even after hundreds of screenings, but not every filmmaker is sold on its superiority. Paramount Pictures has released digital versions of almost every movie since last summer's "Mission: Impossible III," said Mark Christiansen, vice president of operations at the studio. But when it screened Clint Eastwood's World War II drama "Flags of Our Fathers" digitally before last fall's release, the director and his team balked. "They just didn't think it gave the same visceral feeling," Christiansen said. "We're always going to listen to the filmmakers."
This makes me wonder about a few variables likely present.
A high quality 35mm print shown in a top notch Hollywood screening room will likely look a damned sight better than any 2K digital projection system. I wonder if that's the sort of quality Eastwood is used to watching.
Another variable exists in how the digital movie file was encoded. Not every DCI-compliant JPEG2000 movie will be encoded at really high bit rates (in the neighborhood of 250Mb/sec.). Certain people have told me some of Warner Bros.' digital movie files are noticeably smaller than the files they see from other studios. Many JPEG2000 movies will weigh in at 200GB or more. Some WB content is taking up 70GB-80GB in a server. If a video file is squeezed down to near Blu-Ray or HD-DVD quality it's certainly not going to look much better than something played from a HD optical video disc. That may be especially true when more time may actually be spent on compression and encoding for a home video release.
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 04-18-2007, 11:03 AM:
Warner *may* be using variable bitrate encoding. With a properly designed encoder it is *possible* to reduce the overall file size while not compromising quality.
I don't know if this is what they are doing but it might be.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 04-18-2007, 09:16 PM:
quote:
Some theaters were able to hike ticket prices 20%.
How about >40%? Regular matinee price: $6.00, 3D price $8.50.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-19-2007, 08:33 AM:
quote: Michael Coate
I spoke with an El Capitan projectionist yesterday and he told me "Meet The Robinsons" is not being shown in a dual-projector format.
Did he say why not? The dual projector format has to be far superior looking on screen than the single projector format.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-19-2007, 09:35 AM:
Specifically, how is a dual projector setup going to look "far superior?" That statement suggests there is something terribly wrong with the RealD setup.
I've only seen one movie in the format to this point, but as far as I can tell there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. The 3D image was evenly bright, reasonably sharp and completely flicker free. What more do you want?
The high refresh rate of that Z-filter is beyond the ability of human eyes to perceive flicker.
I'll also add, some of the "grass roots" complaints coming from some people about flickering images may need to be clarified. Managers at our local Carmike theater talked about customer complaints of flickering images, but it turned out they were simply wearing the glasses while watching 2D 24fps trailers before any of the RealD formatted content had started to play. That's more of a problem of people not engaging their brains than any issue with the RealD format itself. There was some RealD movie where viewers had to wear the glasses upside down to see the 3D correctly. That sounds like human error in the file preparation process.
The only advantage I see with a two projector setup using circular polarizer lenses you can tilt your head farther at an angle without the 3D image going soupy on you. Since I don't watch movies while pretending to have spinal bifida this isn't a problem for me. Your mileage may vary.
The only problem I see with RealD is just the cost of it. Hopefully that will decline. We've seen that happen with all the other forms of digital technology put into movie theaters.
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 04-19-2007, 11:29 AM:
actually the 2D trailers are running at 48 frames per second they are using both left and right imaging. This was done so that a mid run format change will not be needed and any 2D trailer will play. Used to they had to reformat the trailer to play in 2D and there had to be a 3D format change in the middle of the program when it said put on the 3D glasses. Now they no longer do a special format trailer you just use the existing 2D trailers.
On our realD setup you have to reposition the image on the screen and zoom the lens for 3D content. Basically you set the zoom and position to make the 2D trailers fit the screen. The 3D content does not fill the screen it has what they call a floating curtain that goes around the image. Basically black is all it is. If you ran the 2D trailers without the 3D format and the 48fps occurring before the content hits the screen you will get a pink and green image on the screen. Basically that means that the format of the projector is running at standard 2D 24 frames per second instead of 48fps.
As far as a two projector setup most likely the biggest improvement would be light to the screen. You probably would not have an apparent flicker or strobe as some call it in the image.
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 04-19-2007, 11:50 AM:
When I saw CHICKEN LITTLE at the El Capitan, the theatre was using plenty of back-up. In the downstairs booth was the digital projector with the Z-Filter and a 35mm projector next to it. There was also a booth operator. Supposedly that digital projector was running in synch with the two projector set-up, but with the dowser closed. The booth person, I assume, was there to switch over in case something happened. The upstairs booth was being utilized for the two digital projectors with what I assume were static filters.
Brightness was probably the reason for this. (although the el Capitan's screen is not huge). I do think the (2-D) previews shown were incredibly bright.
However, I saw Monster House at the Criterion in Sana Monica and while that screen was at least the size of the El Capitan's (if not more), it had just as good brightness levels from the one projector. Ditto the screening I saw of Meet the Robinsons at the Edwards here in Bakersfield. The quality of the 3-D effect looked about the same in both single and dual set-ups, to my eyes at least.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-19-2007, 12:50 PM:
quote: Darryl Spicer
If you ran the 2D trailers without the 3D format and the 48fps occurring before the content hits the screen you will get a pink and green image on the screen.
Yes that's true, if the RealD system is active.
I don't know about other Carmike locations, but the one here has a cue set to activate the RealD processor only when the 3D formatted trailers and feature are up in the play list. Everything prior to that is standard 24fps stuff run at 24fps (standard movie trailers, the Carmike policy, etc.). If you watch that stuff wearing the 3D glasses you see a lot of flicker alternating between the video image and black.
On dual projector setups, it would seem logical to assume there would be an advantage in brightness for large screens if both polarized beams were hitting the screen at the same time and not alternating between left eye and right eye display.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-19-2007, 01:53 PM:
Specifically it will look far superior because one eye won't be retaining one frame with persistence of vision while the other eye is seeing the next frame. In other words, your brain won't be "seeing" two different frames at the same time. Indeed your eyes can not perceive a flicker at 144 fps, but that's not the problem. Your brain can certainly perceive when one eye is 1/144th of a second behind the other (at least mine can, apparently)... which it is for the duration of the entire show. It's not a problem if there's no (or very little) motion on the screen, but most animation since Roger Rabbit has included a lot of quick whip pans and other flying camera tricks which causes quite a bit of motion on the screen, and that leads to the eye images separating, and the 3D effect turning into the eyes seeing two completely different things.
Imagine watching a double interlocked presentation with two 35mm projectors equipped with three blade shutters. Each projector will be presenting at 24 fps times three blades, which equals 72 fps. Times two projectors is 144 fps, which by the way is EXACTLY the frame rate everyone has an orgasm over when they talk about the RealD setup. But setting that aside, imagine that one of the 35mm projector's shutters is out of sync with the other by one full shutter blade. Anyone who has run interlocked 35mm will tell you that in that situation, the 3D will look noticeably "off", yet ironically, that is EXACTLY what you get in a RealD presentation, and everyone thinks it looks great... probably because they haven't seen what 3D can look like with two projectors.
Trust me, it can look much better if the frames are completely in sync on the screen. The average viewer probably isn't missing anything right now because they haven't seen a two projector setup before except in special venue locations. I guess that's fortunate for the industry. Wait until more high end theaters start installing a second projector, then we'll see if more people notice the difference. Or... maybe they won't. People still don't think our warbling 650 is a problem, and it's been something like three years.
Of all people, Bobby, I would think you would certainly understand the problem with this setup. Maybe I'm not explaining it well, or maybe you think it's not as big of a deal as I do? Maybe I'm too picky for this industry. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Posted by Jarryd Beard (Member # 2543) on 04-19-2007, 02:09 PM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
If you watch that stuff wearing the 3D glasses you see a lot of flicker alternating between the video image and black.
If the theater was following protocol, this would not be the case. The Z-screen is not to be swung into place until the 3-D content is on the screen. Having the Z-screen in place would also reduce the light output to the screen. Though we don't have the 3-D system at our theatre, I was present during the initial setup at a nearby theatre. The Christie technician made these instructions quite clear to the manager there. Also, the manager and I both agree that this could be a safety hazard. The flicker is quite obnoxious and sickening. We weren't sure what risk someone with epilepsy might be at if they encountered this phenomenon.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 04-19-2007, 02:37 PM:
Waiting until the 2D content is over to swing the z-screen into place seems problematic. Whatever little adjustments that need to be made in order to ensure that it's aligned properly would be hard to do under those time constraints. I'd feel better knowing that it was properly aligned from the start. Why not just run the 2D content as 3D content like Darryl explained? That's what we do.
Also, what is the purpose of the "floating curtain?"
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 04-19-2007, 02:54 PM:
quote:
quote: Bobby Henderson
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If you watch that stuff wearing the 3D glasses you see a lot of flicker alternating between the video image and black.
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If the theater was following protocol, this would not be the case. The Z-screen is not to be swung into place until the 3-D content is on the screen. Having the Z-screen in place would also reduce the light output to the screen. Though we don't have the 3-D system at our theatre, I was present during the initial setup at a nearby theatre. The Christie technician made these instructions quite clear to the manager there. Also, the manager and I both agree that this could be a safety hazard. The flicker is quite obnoxious and sickening. We weren't sure what risk someone with epilepsy might be at if they encountered this phenomenon.
All of this problem will be eliminated if you do one thing. Tell the projector to run in the 3D format at 48fps at the start of the program. The trailers that are 2D will play and you will not experience the black effect during 2D trailers with the glasses on. Trust me I have watched the trailers with the Z screen in the run position and everything is fine no problems. The set up that the techs did at the carmikes is based on old information. for the way that they used to set them up when Monster house came out.
This image comes from the christie cheat sheet provided by the installer. This is how your timeline of the program should be set up.
If you are using a DCA21 this is how I set it up for 3D playback.
Play list set up:
use 15 seconds of black
place start flat cue 1 sec from beginning of black
48 fps 7 seconds from beginning of black
3-D Flat 1998 10 seconds from beginning of black
DCA21 set up:
step 1:
CP2000 standby
Set delay 10 seconds
Step 2:
Alt1
Delay 2 Seconds
Step 3:
Pre-show off
Analog 6ch
House up
house down
Step 4:
House Down
Step 5:
House up
House down
Step 6:
CP2000 off
Pre-show enable
Non-sync
House up
Delay set to repeat
the reason for 10 sec delay is so that everything is processed that is listed on 15seconds of black on the play list and it takes a few seconds for the alt1 to process and it allows step 2 to process automatically so you don't have to ad a cue to go to step two. I also put a two second delay on step two and put the pre-show, audio and lights to half on step 3. This is the smoothest I could get the transition from the pre-show to the dowser open. Follow the above and everything should run fine. It did for me.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-19-2007, 05:34 PM:
quote: Jarryd Beard
If the theater was following protocol, this would not be the case. The Z-screen is not to be swung into place until the 3-D content is on the screen.
In most multiplex environments, no one is going to be there to babysit the projector and swing the Z-screen into place (and make sure the bubble is level and all that) 15 minutes into the previews. I'll bet most theaters swing the Z-screen into place and leave it there until they stop playing Meet The Robinsons.
quote: Darryl Spicer
All of this problem will be eliminated if you do one thing. Tell the projector to run in the 3D format at 48fps at the start of the program. The trailers that are 2D will play and you will not experience the black effect during 2D trailers with the glasses on.
Sounds like a good tip.
Nevertheless, I usually don't put on a pair of typically uncomfortable 3D glasses until the 3D content begins to play.
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 04-20-2007, 03:28 AM:
Agreed, but there are people out there that don't understand that everything is not 3D so they put the glasses on. If you run it the way I described you will not have any complaints because you See flashes of black if you put the glasses on. It will play fine with the Z screen in place so you do not have to be at the machine to move the screen into place. The Christie people who set ours up never said that we could not run the z screen in front of the lens for the entire program.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-20-2007, 07:54 AM:
Just install a second projector and get rid of the stupid Z thingy. All your problems will go away.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-20-2007, 08:51 AM:
Got a spare $200,000 you can loan to some people?
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 04-20-2007, 10:13 AM:
Also, if you weren't to set it up the way Darryl described, you could always just unplug the z-screen instead of swinging it in and out of place.
Posted by Paul Konen (Member # 41) on 04-20-2007, 10:29 AM:
With this being my third 3D show, the Z-Screen was/is always in place. I can't speak about the other servers, but the DOREMI server will play 2D trailers. There is a macro that you have to enable before playing 2D trailers. This macro will ensure that the same frame information goes out on both cables going to the projector head.
It used to be that you would receive 2D trailers recoded for 48fps, but they weren't going to do that now. Hence, the early warning on this site to be running a specific version of the software to encode these correctly.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-20-2007, 11:14 AM:
quote: Mike Schindler
you could always just unplug the z-screen instead of swinging it in and out of place
The Z-screen cuts light output slightly. If you're showing a standard 2D movie it's always better to swing the Z-screen out of the way of the projector lens rather than just unplugging it.
If you're talking about unplugging the Z-screen while 2D trailers play during a 3D movie, that would be a no-go. Since the Z-screen has to be carefully balanced I would prefer to fiddle around with the thing as little as possible. Frequent swinging back and forth and/or unplugging cables is sure to eventually mess up some adjustments.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-20-2007, 01:10 PM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
Got a spare $200,000 you can loan to some people?
Nope, I sure don't. Hence my .
Although I guess I'm not surprised that so many in this industry are quick to dump $200,000 into doing something half right.
For clarity, let me add a few more:
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 04-20-2007, 01:42 PM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
The Z-screen cuts light output slightly. If you're showing a standard 2D movie it's always better to swing the Z-screen out of the way of the projector lens rather than just unplugging it.
If you're talking about unplugging the Z-screen while 2D trailers play during a 3D movie, that would be a no-go. Since the Z-screen has to be carefully balanced I would prefer to fiddle around with the thing as little as possible. Frequent swinging back and forth and/or unplugging cables is sure to eventually mess up some adjustments.
You're right, the Z-screen should absolutely be removed for 2D movies. I was referring to switching from 2D to 3D trailers. I don't really know much about it, but the cable is a single standard phone jack-looking thing (which, in a completely unrelated note, was co-invented by my grandpa). I can't imagine much going wrong by plugging and unplugging it. Certainly, there's less room for error in doing that than in repositioning the entire screen every show. But like Darryl said, it's a moot point with the proper setup. This is just a suggestion for theaters who don't have that setup in the mean time.
EDIT: Is it possible that by plugging in the z-screen while the movie's running, the eyes could be out of phase?
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-20-2007, 04:14 PM:
I'm not sure how the RealD processor (installed the projector's accessory rack) works in conjunction with the Z-screen and with the media server playing back the movie. Pulling the plug on the Z-screen while everything else is running could cause some problems.
I would much rather accomplish everything within the media player's time line than mess around with any cables.
Posted by Tristan Lane (Member # 1169) on 04-21-2007, 04:35 AM:
As Darryl stated in an earlier post, all theaters should be instructing the player/projector to play all 2D content at 48 FPS. If the system is setup up correctly, the 2D content will look exactly the same as the 3D content (minus the depth). Unplugging the zscreen rather than swinging it out of the way during the 2D trailers may have adverse affects on the viewers who insist on wearing their glasses. The zscreen mount is intended allow the screen to be moved out of the way and back again without any alignment. Circular polarization is pretty forgiving this way.
Moving it out of the way for trailers and back for 3D is asking too much of the projection staff at the common multiplex, and more important: Isn't needed if the showlist and automation are set up correctly.
quote: Mark J. Marshall
Trust me, it can look much better if the frames are completely in sync on the screen. The average viewer probably isn't missing anything right now because they haven't seen a two projector setup before
The more I think about this, the less I believe that this could be detrimental to the picture in a way that you have described. You describe jerky motion artifacts and such, and chalk it up to a 144/second delay between what the left eye sees as opposed to what the right eye sees. I would think that this add a smoother motion effect since one eye is still retaining an image from the last frame of motion - and would provide a smoother transition between the previous frame motion and the present frame. I also wonder if image retention over 144th of one second might be splitting hairs a little, as the majority of viewers have no complaints about the presentation. (many of which HAVE seen 2 projector 3D in IMAX)
quote: Mark J. Marshall
Just install a second projector and get rid of the stupid Z thingy. All your problems will go away.
A two projector RealD presentation, or any two projector digital 3D presentation is presently not economically practical, nor is it needed. This would present a problem with the two projectors both trying to decrypt content coming from one source. Present players are only allowed to playout content to ONE projector at a time. The use of two players may fix this, and require the players and projectors to remain in sync but this adds more cost on top of an additional DLP.
The "Stupid z thingy" does it's job adequately. I don't see anything distracting or irritating with RealD or In3's 3D effectn in comparison to what I saw on a daily basis as an IMAX operator. I'm not comparing picture quality or inherent motion artifacts that have been present in past 2K releases, just the 3D effect .
Mark, I'm not saying that you are wrong. But I get the feeling that you are strongly set in your opinion, and perhaps a little bit jaded by fact that it is only single projector 3D, and that the projector is digital
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-21-2007, 11:38 AM:
I'm not complaining that the projector is digital. I'm just complaining that there's only one projector there to do the job of two. I've said before that I would love to see what a two projector DLP 3D presentation looks like. I imagine it probably looks pretty darn good if it's any comparison to a dual film projector setup. I would love to see WB convert House Of Wax to DLP, or see Universal convert Creature to DLP and then show them on a two projector DLP setup. I bet that would be really awesome looking.
I'm not describing jerky motion artifacts. Imagine a ball flying very quickly across the frame from the left to the right. On one frame, the ball may be on the extreme left side of the frame. During the next frame, the ball may be in the middle of the frame, and during the next, it may be on the right of the frame. For a split second, one eye is retaining the image of the ball on the left of the screen, while the other is seeing it in the middle of the screen, then a split second later, the first eye is retaining it in the middle of the screen while the second is seeing it on the right. And that is happening 24 times a second. Now imagine a whole bunch of balls bouncing around like that on the screen (the way the leaves were blowing in the beginning on Monster House). No jerky motion, just separated images. It still looks cool to the untrained eyes of most viewers, but it would look a lot cooler if the eyes were in sync.
Try to understand that we bitch and moan all the time on this site about scratched prints, jumpy images, dirty prints, poorly cut aperture plates, poorly struck high speed prints, etc., and we complain about them to a degree WAY beyond what the average viewer notices. I notice film problems long before most viewers do, as I'm sure everyone else here does too. And we call all of those things "film done wrong" whether the majority of the audience notices the drop in quality or not. To me, a 3D DLP presentation done with one projector is "3D done wrong" as I have yet to see a method where both frames are projected in sync on the screen. I'm glad that the image separation isn't an issue for most of the people here, but it sure annoys the hell out of me.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-21-2007, 12:18 PM:
quote: Tristan Lane
I also wonder if image retention over 144th of one second might be splitting hairs a little, as the majority of viewers have no complaints about the presentation. (many of which HAVE seen 2 projector 3D in IMAX)
Human vision does not work nearly as fast as 144 frames per second. That speed is imperceivable to the eye. We see at around 70 frames per second. Persistence of vision is another factor that further reduces any ability to notice visual differences at 144fps.
Anyone who says they can tell the difference in a 1/144 second delay between a right eye frame and left eye frame is very likely just not telling the truth. It's just like the crap where some people claim they can hear high frequency levels well past 20kHz (like 30kHz etc.), "oh, it's a harmonic and I heard it." Sure.
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Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-22-2007, 09:20 AM:
I'm not sure whether to thank you for that last post or not. Because each eye is not seeing 144 fps. They're both seeing 72 fps. Unless you count the black in between the frames as frames. But all of that is irrelevant because the brain isn't seeing fps at all. The brain is seeing two full motion images thanks to our eyes' persistence of vision. The question is, can the brain interpret when one full motion image is 1/144th of a second behind the other. Apparently mine can. I'm sorry if your brain can't.
I'm a guy who spent quite a bit in time and money to fly from the east coast to the west coast, and stay there for a week and a half to watch 35 3D movies because I really enjoy 3D. I've seen 3D where the images were out of sync by a full frame (there was a frame missing in the negative in the middle of the reel that threw the rest of the show off), and I've seen it where the images were out of sync by a partial frame (the motors slipped on start up so the shutters weren't in sync - the projectionist noticed it too and stopped and restarted the show). I've seen Chicken Little, and I've seen Monster House, and I'm telling you, I can clearly see that the frames are out of sync with that 3D, and I'm certain it's the issue of having a single projector. I'm a guy who would love to see this thing work better than it is. But I can't help it if you think I'm not telling the truth.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-22-2007, 02:50 PM:
quote: Mark J. Marshall
The question is, can the brain interpret when one full motion image is 1/144th of a second behind the other. Apparently mine can. I'm sorry if your brain can't.
Either you're lying or you're not human.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-22-2007, 03:52 PM:
quote: Bobby Henderson
you're not human
Could this be the reason he hasn't put up a member picture?
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-23-2007, 05:28 PM:
Hmmm...
That's not the first time someone has suggested that I'm not human.
I'm starting to wonder...
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 05-07-2007, 06:05 PM:
Hollywood Reporter story
[italics are mine]
quote:
Disney high on 3-D 'Robinsons'
By Carolyn Giardina
May 4, 2007
The 3-D digital cinema engagements of the Walt Disney Co.'s "Meet the Robinsons" have delivered about 31% of the film's total gross, said Chuck Viane, president of Disney's Buena Vista Pictures Domestic Distribution. The film's cume as of Monday was an estimated $88.4 million.
The 3-D screens represented 14% of the total screens from the film's March 30 opening. Still, Viane said they now are delivering more than three times the per-theater average of the 2-D version. Viane noted the staying power of the format, saying that as of last week, "Robinsons" was still playing on more than 400 of the 581 Real D 3-D-ready digital cinema screens on which the film opened domestically.
Viane said the 3-D versions will continue to perform for additional weeks. "We still have 3-D screens that will probably play up until the digital screens are needed for "Pirates 3,' " he said.
Looking ahead, Viane said, "Exhibitors have seen the success of 3-D, they are committing more auditoriums for 3-D. ... (and) 2008 will be good; 2009 will be a watershed year for 3-D."
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